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I remember all the reporters out there that said that Waterboarding was not torture. They equated it to having a shower or using a neti pot.
Although many times Christopher Hitchens and I were on opposite ends of certain issues in the end he was a man that no matter the opinion I could still respect him. When the controversy about waterboarding came out, Hitchens didn't form an opinion until he himself had a chance to be waterboarded. After lasting about 6 seconds top he had to stop having it done. He documented his waterboarding for Vanity Fair magazine and below is the link to the article and photos.
RIP Christopher Hitchen. The world lost an important voice.
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http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/hitchens200808
Believe Me, Its Torture
You may have read by now the official lie about this treatment, which is that it simulates the feeling of drowning. This is not the case. You feel that you are drowning because you are drowningor, rather, being drowned, albeit slowly and under controlled conditions and at the mercy (or otherwise) of those who are applying the pressure. The board is the instrument, not the method. You are not being boarded. You are being watered. This was very rapidly brought home to me when, on top of the hood, which still admitted a few flashes of random and worrying strobe light to my vision, three layers of enveloping towel were added. In this pregnant darkness, head downward, I waited for a while until I abruptly felt a slow cascade of water going up my nose. Determined to resist if only for the honor of my navy ancestors who had so often been in peril on the sea, I held my breath for a while and then had to exhale andas you might expectinhale in turn. The inhalation brought the damp cloths tight against my nostrils, as if a huge, wet paw had been suddenly and annihilatingly clamped over my face. Unable to determine whether I was breathing in or out, and flooded more with sheer panic than with mere water, I triggered the pre-arranged signal and felt the unbelievable relief of being pulled upright and having the soaking and stifling layers pulled off me. I find I dont want to tell you how little time I lasted.
RZM
(8,556 posts)He only lasted about 15 seconds. Doesn't look like a good time to me.
JitterbugPerfume
(18,183 posts)although sometimes he drove me up the wall. It is important to listen to people you disagree with , and he was the best
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)He's one of the few right-wingers that I could tolerate. He wrote regularly for Vanity Fair and I think in the end he was slowly moving towards the middle again.
Boston_Chemist
(256 posts)Advocating actions that have resulted in mass civilian deaths in Iraq, and elsewhere, by waving the Muslim boogeyman, has informed my opinion of him.
rox63
(9,464 posts)Strange history. Read one of the obits floating around out there.
Boston_Chemist
(256 posts)He did an about-face, though.
I've gotten into some pretty sharp arguments about him and Sam Harris.
About Sam Harris, to advocate nuclear strikes on the Muslim world? What the fuck?
Being HUMANE is more important than these Ivory-Towerish stances.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)And yes, many times he pissed me off.
But in the end he was one that I could read even if in the end I'd think 'What a *#)% idiot'
I could never stomach anything read or said by the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage, etc. etc.
Boston_Chemist
(256 posts)And same goes for that other warmonger, Sam Harris.
Now, Dan Dennett - he's a real intellectual.
JI7
(89,274 posts)Boston_Chemist
(256 posts)Judging someone's character by their actions and words is a perfectly valid thing to do. I evaluate Mr. Hitchens on the basis of what matters, his personal stances vis a vis the human lives of other people. Not whether or not he was a smug, sarcastic asshole during debates.
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)Critters2
(30,889 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,097 posts)Like
Rush Limbaugh
Glenn Beck
Bill O'Reilly
Dick Cheney & his wife
Rumsfeld
Condi Rice & her piano
George Bush & his wife
All of the Generals
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)HE came out with the same message - he was being tortured.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)And what the hell inspires one to call oneself "ManCow"??
Edweird
(8,570 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)He was wrong about Iraq, but very, very on-target about indicting Henry Kissinger and some other Untouchables for Crimes Against Humanity.
He added a lot to the world.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)"God is not Great" was a funny, vitriolic and utterly readable book. Hitchens was unafraid to admit his mistakes, and that makes him better than most.
themadstork
(899 posts)EFerrari
(163,986 posts)that had targets on their backs by governments and political organizations, notably Salman Rushdie. He was one of the moving forces in PEN. He put himself on the line more than once to support freedom of speech in a concrete way.
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)Not surprised he would have his back.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)to bash Muslims.
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)Each in their own way have helped to increase hostility toward the Islamic world by promoting this bogus, manufactured clash of civilizations, and both have attempted to sell the laughable notion of western moral superiority (Rushdie likes to talk about the inherent evils of Muslim honor culture). Hitchens has said it was the Rushdie fatwa affair that caused him to take a hard right turn and become a Bush-loving warmonger. Rushdie isnt openly bloodthirsty in the disgusting manner of Hitchens, but dang, they sure do fawn all over each other (or rather, used to).
I meant no comment toward PEN, which Im not even familiar with.
Warpy
(111,354 posts)along with a very nice assortment of his own writings: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/christopher-hitchens?intcmp=239
BOG PERSON
(2,916 posts)because his suffering is over.
i mean i'm glad his suffering is over.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)which was a great service to the public. I do remember seeing that video.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Too bad other right-wing nut jobs that supported waterboarding didn't do the same thing.
NashVegas
(28,957 posts)By being a cheerleader for the Iraq war.