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Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 06:25 PM Apr 2013

One of the bombing suspects

Looks just like my husband. The one they show in profile looks so much like him - same "schnoz," bone structure, coloring, etc. My husband is of Polish, German and Irish descent. Just goes to show that you can't always tell just by looking at someone. Sadly, so many people on my facebook are making comments about "fucking Arabs and Muslims." Makes me so sick.

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One of the bombing suspects (Original Post) Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 OP
When all is said and done nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #1
I Expect Crow RobinA Apr 2013 #30
Where was your husband on Monday? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #2
Haha Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #7
Yep. And Americans come in all colors. bunnies Apr 2013 #3
Turn him in. slackmaster Apr 2013 #4
They don't look Arab to me Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #5
doubtful that they have somewhere to go outside of the USA Schema Thing Apr 2013 #8
We essentially have open borders with Canada and Mexico Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #14
VERY interesting. elleng Apr 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Apr 2013 #9
People who choose to attack entire communities over this are complete imbeciles regardless. Arrowhead2k1 Apr 2013 #10
I completely agree Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #12
this is not shaping up to be Islamic extremists magical thyme Apr 2013 #15
I tend to agree. I person coming into this country would have to round up bluestate10 Apr 2013 #22
What about homegrown with Islamic leanings? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #24
My Personal SPECULATION RobinA Apr 2013 #31
What makes you think "islamic extremists" can't be "homegrown white boys" ? whathehell Apr 2013 #26
What makes you assume this is "shaping up to be Islamic Extremists" magical thyme Apr 2013 #29
I'll give you time to catch up to the latest news. whathehell Apr 2013 #33
Caught up. Islamic wins over RW fundie wingnuts. magical thyme Apr 2013 #34
Um, no..It seems they came here one year ago. whathehell Apr 2013 #35
um, no...that's been debunked repeatedly magical thyme Apr 2013 #37
Gee...You catch up fast! whathehell Apr 2013 #38
that was last night magical thyme Apr 2013 #39
Different sleeping patterns, I guess. whathehell Apr 2013 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #11
How do Asians walk? Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #13
Deleted ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #16
Oh no! Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #17
or Eric Cantor SoCalDem Apr 2013 #18
BOOM! Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #19
I found one of him in a hat..added it SoCalDem Apr 2013 #20
Thank you Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #21
Too Old RobinA Apr 2013 #32
looks like me too nachosgrande Apr 2013 #23
HA! When I saw the (admittedly not very good) pix of suspect#1 I thought... dorkzilla Apr 2013 #25
Same with my husband Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #28
The community that they make look bad Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #27
^^^^ this nt magical thyme Apr 2013 #36

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
30. I Expect Crow
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:24 AM
Apr 2013

will be served to those who jumped on the "It was a winger" bandwagon. As much as I wish it were a winger, I'm starting to doubt it. The whole thing gets weirder and weirder.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
5. They don't look Arab to me
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 06:33 PM
Apr 2013

But we'll know in a little. Either they're innocent, in which case they'll be calling the FBI quite quickly, or they're not.

If they're not, they probably are out of the country by now.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
14. We essentially have open borders with Canada and Mexico
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 06:45 PM
Apr 2013

Anyplace would be better than here.

I'm not trying to imply that they are foreigners, just that if they really are the perps they've had time to get under cover.

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Arrowhead2k1

(2,121 posts)
10. People who choose to attack entire communities over this are complete imbeciles regardless.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 06:36 PM
Apr 2013

But besides all of that, let's face it. The threat from Islamic extremists is still very real, and this is shaping up to be another case of that. I wish it weren't, but it is what it is. We should join with Muslim Americans to condemn these extremists. These extremists would like nothing less than for there to be tension between Muslim and non-Muslim communities.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
12. I completely agree
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 06:37 PM
Apr 2013

I was just sick from reading so many comments on my facebook page. We'll know soon enough....I hope.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
15. this is not shaping up to be Islamic extremists
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 06:55 PM
Apr 2013

The close up shots of the suspects make it clear they could easily be homegrown white boys. The choice of venue for this -- Patriot's Day, tax day and the Marathon -- makes it at least as likely, if not moreso, homegrown wingnuts rather than any foreigners.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
22. I tend to agree. I person coming into this country would have to round up
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 07:50 PM
Apr 2013

a lot of material to make a bomb. I am leaning more heavily toward homegrown. Chris Matthews brought up that the two men were heavily dressed for the Boston day and that could have meant that they came from a warm place outside of the country. Matthews failed to recognize that all of the South and much of the Interior West is warmer than Boston and that people coming from those regions would wear heavy clothing that acclimated people wouldn't wear.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
24. What about homegrown with Islamic leanings?
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 07:57 PM
Apr 2013

Remember the several young men the FBI rounded up before they could carry out their plot....the kid who was going to blow up the Portland tree lighting? He was American.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
31. My Personal SPECULATION
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:32 AM
Apr 2013

is running towards homegrown Islamic. This whole developing weirdness has a hybrid feel to it. Knocking over a convenience store? Shoot outs with police? Apparent total lack of a viable exit strategy? As American as apple pie. Pressure cooker bombs dropped in a busy place? Working in tandem? Definitely not American (so far at least). Hell, the last time an American decided to bomb the Establishment he took the front off a multiple story federal building.

Generalization and speculation, so don't tell me about it.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
26. What makes you think "islamic extremists" can't be "homegrown white boys" ?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:42 AM
Apr 2013

They can, and on occasion, have been.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
29. What makes you assume this is "shaping up to be Islamic Extremists"
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:21 AM
Apr 2013

versus any other variety of homegrown extremists?

Because ime homegrown extremists are more likely to be anti-government or just plain nihilists. McVeigh. Waco. Rudolph. Columbine. Sandy Hook.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
34. Caught up. Islamic wins over RW fundie wingnuts.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:13 AM
Apr 2013

But they are also somewhat home-grown, having come here 10+ years ago.

(Interesting to note that yesterday I had written, somewhere around DU, a post suggesting that they may be local to Massachusetts, and then edited it out before posting for fear of getting flamed to death by locals.)

However, based on Suspect #1's facebook posting, it could yet be Nihilism winning over Islam. I read elsewhere on DU, from somebody with in-depth knowledge of the area, that Chechnyan Moslems tend to be more nationalist than jihadist.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
37. um, no...that's been debunked repeatedly
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:23 AM
Apr 2013

A single, early report said one year ago.

Follow up reporting has repeatedly said they have been living at the same address in Cambridge, Mass for 10+ years, their parents have returned to Russia (their father is Russian, but worked in Chechnya where one was born. The other was born in Russia).

And as for the rest, well, back at ya

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
38. Gee...You catch up fast!
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:28 AM
Apr 2013

Just a couple of hours ago, it seems you were the only person on the board

who still thought they were "homegrown white boys" with right wing inclinations.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
39. that was last night
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:40 AM
Apr 2013

and I was far from the only one last night and before, who considered homebred white boys at least an equally likely scenario as Islamic. As I wrote above, I would not have been surprised if they had been from Massachusetts. There are many soft targets with lots of people, but the Boston Marathon and Patriot's Day has special meaning to people in Massachusetts. And while Mass is known as solid blue, liberal, I know from having lived there for 26 years, that outside of Boston I found many RW nutcase enclaves while searching for a farm. Nothing like having a german shepherd come bounding up to you with his owner calling, "Here Adolph! Here boy!" Or finding a little network of private lanes named, "The American Way" and "Patriot's Lane" and hand painted signs like, "keep out," "no trespassing," and "don't tread on me."

My first news this morning, once I had a chance to sit down and read, was that there was one from Chechnya and one with a surname identified as Indian. And then, both Chechnyan here for a year, one age 19 and 20. And then aged 19 and 27, and here for 10 years, father from Russia, etc.

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nachosgrande

(66 posts)
23. looks like me too
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 07:57 PM
Apr 2013

When I saw the white hat guy I thought it looked a little like me. Then my boss comes over and goes, "Did you see the FBI posted pics of the suspects?...You weren't in Boston recently, were you?"

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
25. HA! When I saw the (admittedly not very good) pix of suspect#1 I thought...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:06 AM
Apr 2013

Its my ex-husband! He lives in Massachusetts!! Maybe...but no, he wouldn't hurt a fly. He'd talk them to death, but that's about the worst he could do. He's a nice Jewish boy. Funny, but we were in Italy many years ago and the Italians were walking up to him speaking in their native tongue.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
28. Same with my husband
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:03 AM
Apr 2013

He's a really super strong guy and can look intimidating, but the most harm he would do is talk someone to death about baseball. My husband is mistaken for an Italian as well. And Greek. No one ever guesses German, Polish or Irish.

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