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Islamic terrorist...these boys are clearly Caucasian so they are likely Tim" McVeigh types..... HomeGrown
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)they are convinced they are "islamists."
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Paul E Ester
(952 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)It hurts to see this young girl grieving for her husband who was a causality of the bush/cheney war crimes.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)It's a controversial term - my understanding is that it's usually used as a criticism, not as a self-identification - but it's usually used (or at least, the people who use it claim they're using it, which admittedly isn't quite the same thing) to mean "someone who believes in the construction of a society dominated by Islam", not just "a Muslim".
And, while I haven't heard of Cpr Khan, I'd be surprised if many people holding that belief served in the US army.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)Black Hat is a little more unclear. He has darker skin than White Hat, but that might just be because of shadowing.
The bottom line is it is still way to early to assign a motive here.
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Warpy
(111,339 posts)looks pretty Mediterranean to me.
What struck me about these losers was that the t shirts were blank, as were the jackets and white cap. They stayed completely away from logos in a town where most t shirts have pictures and writing on them.
That alone should have made them stand out.
adigal
(7,581 posts)Including family members.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)I was good friends with an Italian guy who actually looked pretty similar to suspect #2.
And my dad...French Canadian...had a rather prominent nose as well
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)to be a blue eyed, light skinned blonde like my mother, but he could pass for any Mediterranean nationality. Especially when he is tan, which he is most of the time now that he is retired.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Warpy
(111,339 posts)Israeli, Lebanese, Greek, Turkish...
It's a regional characteristic which might have something to do with it and it might not.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)It's getting to where I am more nervous of Americans than anyone else, considering the statistics.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)bbernardini
(9,938 posts)I'd be willing to bet almost anything that one of them will claim that the suspects had their skin lightened.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)that was the original "person of interest" the other night. He is being deported. Beck and Hannity et all have cooked up a dandy with Kerry, a Saudi Prince and Obama all in on it.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)warrprayer
(4,734 posts)on your sig line
frazzled
(18,402 posts)H. L. Mencken shouldn't really be praised here. He was the granddaddy of libertarianism, and is responsible for Ayn Rand having her first novel published. He was an admirer of Nietszche, did not subscribe to representative democracy (thought that "superior" people were being told what to do by inferiors), etc. A complex man who had a brilliant mind, for sure, but it ran hot and cold, and was often controversial in its time.
He hated Franklin Roosevelt.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)I will have to read more on it. Not a follower of Mencken.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)As far as speculation goes, we are still where we were before the photos were released.
jessie04
(1,528 posts)nt
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)It's not conclusive enough to identify race or nationality right now...
I've met mid-easterns that look pretty white-skinned.
Look at Ahmadinejad for example.
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Paul E Ester
(952 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)BUT... we all need to be careful about rushing to judgment. I was guilty of immediately thinking it was a RW asshole. But after some sleep I realize none of us knows. They could be muslims who look white (think serbia) or RW nuts or angry kids... we just don't know.
We won't know why they did it or who they are until they are caught.
Windy
(5,944 posts)And yes, people from the middle east are caucasian just as italian, serbians, etc are.
wryter2000
(46,081 posts)They could be a lot of different ethnicities, and they could have had lots of different motives. I hope they catch these creeps soon.
cali
(114,904 posts)black or asian.
hugo_from_TN
(1,069 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)'kay. Looks Italian descent to me, but whatever.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)UncleYoder
(233 posts)Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)Exhibit A: Muhammad Atta on 9/11/2001. He's dressed in slacks and a button up dress shirt. Very western looking clothes.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)And all of them are well-represented in the Boston area.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)of my male Italian American cousins. We aren't going to know if they're foreign or domestic terrorists until they're caught.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I'm going to withhold judgment. Doesn't Al Qaeda usually try to take credit if they're responsible for something like this?
gateley
(62,683 posts)Just asshole guys thinking it would be a hoot to do something like this.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)seriously, half the cast on My Big Fat Greek Wedding could have similar features...as well as the Greek Orthodox "father" across the street and any of his sons.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)but I knew what you meant.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)or Italians...
oh yeah
you know how bad THOSE people are
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Unless someone is dressed as a buddhist monk, nun, or other cleric, I am fascinated by how one arrives at an identification of a person's religion by their skin color or other physical features.
I had no idea that Islam had an effect on skin tone.
JVS
(61,935 posts)Stereotyping is only wrong when done to people of color.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Jesus.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...or something.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I would praise him for that.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)and is reborn after 3 *minutes* !!!!
Quantess
(27,630 posts)The pretty haircut and the fair complexion caught my eye, too.
npk
(3,660 posts)Gees people read a book.
Redford
(373 posts)Are we not due for another war and all?
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)Maybe so.
Just don't see how you are so certain.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)This is the former Iranian justice minister:
And this is the chairman of the Iranian parliament:
This is an Afghan child at a refugee camp:
And another Afghan:
So...really, we can't actually determine anything from those images apart from "they're not black and not Asian", as noted above.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Or Italian, or Greek, or Spanish, or from any of a hundred places. There are no obvious clues as to their religion, if they have one.
They're not Germanic, but they could be just about anything else under the general umbrella of Caucasian.
Franky at this point with nobody claiming responsibility, I'm beginning to suspect that the perpetrators, whoever they are, are just anarchists.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,195 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)ethnicity those two in the photo are. I certainly hope and pray it is not someone of Middle Eastern, Arabic or Muslim background - because every single one of us - every single one of us without exception - knows perfectly well how that will play out - if it is.
John2
(2,730 posts)motive be at this point, to bomb the Boston Marathon? If you wanted to start a War, it seems you would have a better motive. I would not rule out home grown rightwing extremists or even someone wants to influence Foreign Policy for any other group's advantage. I think they have stronger motives than a Jihadist at this point. I think there are people hoping that is not the case either. So that can't be ruled out. Those two just seem to have a michievious arrogance about them to me. That is just my first impression.
jessie04
(1,528 posts)home grown
reformist2
(9,841 posts)bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)If I'm not mistaken aren't the Chechnian separatiststhat have been blowing up stuff in Russia, Muslim?
Bosonic
(3,746 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)which was one of the most vicious such incidents ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis
It's pretty hard to assume that this has nothing to do with violent Islamic ideology right now. They know the brothers were Muslims.
JCMach1
(27,572 posts)Recovered Repug
(1,518 posts)How long have you been working for CNN?
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)What bothers me is why anyone would bet that is was NOT Islamic terrorism.
Boy did you ever jump out too quick on this.