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WHY JENNY SANFORD IS PISSED
FORMER FIRST LADY FURIOUS OVER GOVERNOR'S NEW LOVE APPEARING ALONGSIDE HER CHILDREN
Despite her protestations to the contrary, former S.C. First Lady Jenny Sanford is actively stoking the controversy involving her ex-husbands trespassing allegation which bodes poorly for former S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford over the coming three weeks as he tries to complete his political comeback.
Jenny Sanfords lingering animosity toward the man who publicly humiliated her four years ago is nothing new. In fact she reportedly threw a few jabs his way earlier this year at a funeral for a former staffer at the S.C. Governors Mansion. Thats right
at a funeral.
This after turning the whole woman scorned thing into a cottage industry
Of course in Jenny Sanfords defense her husband publicly humiliated her in 2009 not only by cheating on her but later by declaring that his Latin lover (now fiancee) Maria Belen Chapur was his soulmate.
Ouch
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http://www.fitsnews.com/2013/04/17/why-jenny-sanford-is-pissed
One of the last people I would want after me
(Fitsnews is run by a lbertarian sob but he has connections around the state who keep him informed)
calimary
(81,466 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)She needs to get over it .If he marries her he can't have his kids around his new wife WTF!!!
carolinayellowdog
(3,247 posts)go Jenny!
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)He didn't have the courtesy to introduce them in a less public setting. They have been through a lot.
In addition, Mark keeps breaking the divorce agreement by going into HER house repeatedly even after being warned. He has also broken other parts.
So she can't get over it. He refuses to leave her alone.
She may be scorned but with what he has done, he deserves every bit of hell he gets.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Funny how that works, isn't it?
Carolina
(6,960 posts)He didn't give a shit about his kids when he was cavorting off to Argentina and then publicly embarrassing himself and his family with his diarrhea of the mouth televised AP press.
It was horrible to see that press conference knowing how devastating it must have been for Jenny and OMG ... their 4 boys, at least one of whom was a teenager at the time while the others, though younger, were still old enough to understand what was going on.
Being cheated on in a long term marriage is a pain I wouldn't wish on anyone, but compounding that hurt with public humiliation (e.g. his soul mate declarations and The State newspaper's exposure if his titillating emails) is a wound as awful as any physical one.
Plus what some don't get on this board is that he literally disappeared. The Lt Gov, the State police, no one know where he was or how to contact him in the event of a state emergency. That is dereliction of duty!
Sanford was, and is, an ass who deserves to be in the dustbin of history. Good for Jenny for upsetting his comeback apple cart.
from Columbia!
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)some family values, eh?
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I guess an election could do the trick
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)They both need to stfu and go away.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)He's acting like a stalker, has broken several articles of their divorce agreement and SHE'S the one who needs to "get over it?" Alrighty then.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)She left their 14 year old son alone at the beach house, wouldn't return his calls, knowing full well they wanted to watch the game together, and then makes a big deal about him "trespassing" so he could watch the game with his son.
Woop de do.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)to return his phone calls. In fact, chances are, her lawyers probably told her NOT to talk to him directly. Regardless, that does NOT give him permission to walk into the house which she is currently occupying without advanced notice and without some sort of pre-arrangement. THAT is called trespassing. The fact that you see no wrongdoing on his part and, instead, are putting all the blame on her is telling.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I see wrongdoing by both of them, who seem to each be quite self absorbed.
A divorced couple playing stupid games with child visitation - how novel.
But there will always be those like you who have a need to ascribe opinions to others, so you can fight your imaginary demons.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)My post was based on your defense of him without acknowledging any wrongdoing on his part. Given the information available, it was a logical assumption.
I find the "ascribing opinions to others" projection interesting, particularly followed by "so you can fight your imaginary demons." Irony, anyone?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Divorced people play stupid games with each other all of the time in order to maintain engagement through legal actions as a substitute for doing constructive things with their lives and moving on. One or the other or both believe there is some kind of "win" in any of it.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)For some reason (boredom?) I clicked on the thread and noticed what I deemed to be a sexist statement and felt the need to counter it. I do that sometimes.
As for the rest of it, file it under: "Pfffffftttt"
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Chapin may be wondering why the hell she got mixed up in this thing in the first place. Maybe all she wanted was a little roll in the hay with a U.S. governor...she's probably seeing her "main chance" fading with little Markie and making some plans to find somebody with more money and w/o an ex-wife with blood in her eye...
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)that the first person that implied this was Jenny's doing, is Mark. We all know how trustworthy he is.
Used state funds to meet up with his mistress, used state planes to go to private parties and political fund raisers, lied about where he was on Father's Day, and left the state with no one in charge for 5 days. I wouldn't believe him if his tongue came notorized.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)She might have been under the impression that all that money was HIS, not from his ex-wife's family fortune. Wouldn't put it past him to lie about that.
Fact is, if he lied to his first wife, he'll lie to his second...this guy is a disaster...
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)They'll do it with ya, they'll do it to ya.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)fast getaway!
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)So it's trespassing.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)And it is a common game among divorced couples to play "let's make the kids hostages to our manipulative games".
treestar
(82,383 posts)If a court order tells you to stay away, you must. There's no defense that it's part of a "game."
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I'm sure the order has a lot of provisions, including ones involving keeping the kids away from the other. A one-sided court paper, without the reply, is often a bad way to find out what was going on.
My understanding of "stalking" is that it involves the target actually being around.
treestar
(82,383 posts)He hasn't been charged with stalking. If he is, the evidence will either be enough to convict him or it won't be. But there is no defense that "my ex wife is playing games." If has to be a defense to the charge as put forth in the criminal law.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If you take a look up the thread, I was responding to use of the word "stalking" here.
He hasn't been criminally charged with anything. This is a civil complaint.
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)charged with it.
The complaint filed by Jenny Sanfords lawyer, Deena Smith McRackan, said that Mark Sanford has entered into a pattern of entering onto plaintiffs property. Plaintiff has informed defendant on a number of occasions that this behavior is in violation of the courts order and has demanded that it not occur again.
In Febuary of 2011, McRackan sent a letter to Mark Sanford telling him not to trespass on Jenny Sanfords property. A copy of that letter was also sent to the local police, according to court filings.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ex-wife-accuses-ex-gov-sanford-of-trespassing.php
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)HER permission to go into HER home. NO. Believe it or not, I have left my 14 year olds alone. There are no laws against it. 12 years old is considered old enough to be left alone and to babysit. The kid was 14.
He cared so much about his kids he left them on FATHER's Day, but felt he had to be with them on Superbowl? There is no irony or hypocrisy in that?
Again how would you like it when you came home and found your EX in YOUR house (on more than one occassion) without YOUR permission. They are divorced, he doesn't live there anymore.
Poor fucking Mark. Boo fucking hoo. He cheated on her, she divorced him. If he had kept it in his pants, they would still be married and he could go into their house without a problem. But he is now the victim? If markie hadn't violated the divorce agreement to begin with, he wouldn't have been slapped with trespassing. He did ALL of this to himself.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)And that is a day for the kids? Or for him?
"But he is now the victim?"
You are clearly having a conversation with someone not in this thread.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)They want to do things for and be with the parents. He jilted his own kids for the mistress....and yet Mark tries to turn this whole thing around and imply Jenny has parenting issues because she left her 14 year old alone during the Super Bowl. What a fucker...literally.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)He deserted his family, his 4 boys, on Father's Day weekend. How's that for republican family values?
He didn't give a shit then, so he has to live with the consequences now. How's that for republican responsibility.
Fuck Sanford. He started this shitstorm with his behavior and his new found desire to resume public office (where he'd have a good salary and benefits on our dime). He should just go away... slither away like the snake that he is!
Tanuki
(14,920 posts)or he would have watched it with her instead.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)flimsy excuse for trespassing.
Bucky
(54,065 posts)With a few victories, she might just come over to our side.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...I doubt she's changing that.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)She is not a religious nutjob. Her politics run toward the libertarian strain. Jenny S is not an evangelical who rails about everything.
Mark Sanford has a lot of political enemies in this state. In 2006, he picked out a slate of candidates to run against some of the most Republican senior members. They were people who wouldn't vote his way.Only one won a race. You piss those people off and you have some real, vengeful enemies. One of them could have easily called in a favor and had those divorce papers released.
If he doesn't like the conditions of the divorce settlement, then he should go to court to try to amend them.
It is HER house. He has no right to enter it as he has repeatedly done. If he wants to see his kids, he is allowed to meet them somewhere. I'm not sure how happy they are with him.
If she really wanted to get him, she would have run. She would have stomped him.
Mark Sanford thinks ONLY of himself and does what he wants. Why you see fit to defend him is beyond me. He is an utter jackass on all levels.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Some people seem to think that he's just this poor guy who simply fell out of love with his wife, and found the new love of his life, and how dare we not see it as a love story for the ages? Can't we see that Jenny is just a sad spiteful woman scorned who can't get over it?
Bullshit. I don't care about his adultery, but I do care about his abandonment on his elected office, the highest office in his state for chrissake, to leave the fucking HEMISPHERE without even his security detail knowing about it, so he could visit his paramour. And now, he has willfully and defiantly violated a COURT ORDER to stalk his ex-wife and enter her home without permission, more than once if you believe her, and she's just supposed to roll over and play dead??
She's the party at fault here? Unbelievable.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)funny, that...
Crunchy Frog
(26,630 posts)Must care about those kids alot. How tragic that he's being so misused by that ex of his.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)Absolutely
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Sounds like an unfaithful and ignoble ex-governor to me. He needs to get over it.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I would say that they deserved each other, but it seems that that jerk thingie got in the way.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)She held back on reporting him and did not publicize it when she did. She has had to endure a lot because of him and he refuses to stop.
I don't blame her one bit especially after the stunt with the kids.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)But if she's going out her way to sabotage his campaign (Actually, I hope that she succeeds in doing that, by the way), she's just going a bit overboard in the git-back arena.
All I have to say is that I'm glad that I'd never have to associate with either one of them.
Too much drama going there for my tastes.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Repukes would have half the country as starving serfs. I pass deathcake around anytime one snuffs it, or has their career blown out of the water.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)Going after the politician's career is probably the only weapon in her arsenal. Maybe she believes that forcing him back into private life would be better for the children, too.
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)How would you like it is someone was stalking you? Entering your house at random, when ever you go out.
Sanfraud said he couldn't let his son watch the superbowl alone? But he had no problem letting him celebrate FATHER's Day alone, while hiking out of the country to bop his mistress. He cares so much about his sons, that he introduces them to his mistress, now fiancee in front of TV cameras.
She is not going out of her way to sabotage him. He is doing that all on his own....by violating the divorce agreement. Over and over again. She has a right to be able to leave her home without him entering it on a whim. Seems to me like he may be stalking her.What woman wouldn't love coming home and finding her ex in her home, without her permission?
Mark is all about Mark. He can't understand why his wife left him after finding out he was screwing another woman. He even had the nerve to publicly ask Jenny if she would be his campaign manager. Mark is trying to make it out like he is the wounded party, because she isn't tolerating his shit anymore.
Bucky
(54,065 posts)Cooperation is for liberals, sissies, and terrorists. If they like mixin it up with each other, regardless of what it does to their kids, let 'em be, I say
GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)It comes with the territory. That being said.I don't see her behavior regarding her ex-husband to be jerk behavior. It's just self-defense, IMHO.
JI7
(89,264 posts)each other for their own gain. he used her for the money and how that would help him politically. and she was probably raised thinking she should be with a guy like him who will do well career wise . when she should have been the one to run for office or do whatever the fuck she wants.
i hear their sons are Ron Paul supporters.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)From further public embarassment and humiliation caused by their father.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)which enables a person to trespass and enter a home in order to watch the national pastime.
The Appalachian Trail defense is not applicable in this case.
He is after all
A LAWYER.
randome
(34,845 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)All he seems to do is serve himself. There's something wrong with that boy.
babylonsister
(171,090 posts)How Jenny Sanford Sabotaged Mark's Comeback
Jason Zengerle: "Indeed, while Jenny has never come out and publicly opposed Mark's congressional candidacy -- choosing to remain officially neutral -- she's waged a brutally effective passive-aggressive campaign against it. Whether it was revealing to me that Mark had shamelessly asked her to manage his election bid; or telling the Washington Post that, until the night Mark's fiancée showed up onstage at his victory party in April, one of her sons had never met the woman; or just generally making it known that she is furious that he's running, Jenny has done a masterful job of keeping her ex-husband's past (and not-so-past) transgressions in the news. She has seeded the ground with political land mines, stood back, and waited for Mark to step on one."
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)before things got "interesting."
She's a real looker. She sure could do better than him. He doesn't look all that "manly" to me, if you know what I mean...
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)So sordid, so nasty. Hollywood scripwriters take note--this could make a terrific movie.
Tanuki
(14,920 posts)it's pretty obvious he was trying to keep the fact that he had been there a secret. It isn't much of a stretch to think that he encouraged his son to keep it a secret from Jenny as well. I would be really pissed if an ex was trying to triangulate my child in this manner, or to encourage him be dishonest with me.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)He's pathological. Probably has no useful skills OTHER than being a politician. He's ticked off the old money so no cushy consulting jobs for him. So running for office is all that he has left. Too stinking bad his Republican constituents ONCE AGAIN ignored their so-called values and gave him the chance.
No sympathy here.
FSogol
(45,525 posts)Let me know when his opponent has an ad with someone creeping around a backyard with a cell phone flashlight.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)That would be tacky which is a mortal sin down here. Mark has hung himself and she shouldn't touch that dirty mess with a 10 foot pole. That is strictly a GOP problem. Le them wallow in it and try to clean it up.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)The former Mrs. Sanford has helped make her ex radioactive, exposing him as a talentless, entitled dimwit addicted to being a big shot. Hope Rusch can retire him.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Sanford is as slick as goose shit and he'll just cry "I'm bein' harassed!!!" and all the good ol' boys will line up to vote for him.