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Look, it's not just random posters on the Intertubes complaining..
They have taken to the streets!
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)So now we have catholic and mulism women coming out against femen?
Here on DU we are told that such women have no idea about how they are being repressed by the patriarchy of those two religions. That those women involved in those faiths just don't get it and need help.
And here they are now being used by others.
If I were to post things from either group of women concerning their other ideals of faith - from being home makers to being anti-abortion, it would be seen as me being against women in general.
"we are here today to eradicate their kind...as they eradicate the catholics"
From this video.
So basically - you support women who support these two faiths and their ideals of how women should be? Breasts covered, abortion illegal, etc.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Shocking Testimony Of Lebanese Christian Lady On Islamization
264 views
Europe is facing an insurgency no different from what's happening in Iraq -- just not fully violent yet.
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The Relentless Islamization Of France
Opinion surveys show that to voters in France -- home to an estimated 6.5 million Muslims, the largest Muslim population in the European Union -- Islam and the question of Muslim immigration
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Muslims Promoting Islam next to St Paul's Cathedral on Christmas Eve 2012
Source: http://www.youtube.com/user...
Now seriously, what would happen if christians were doing the same in front of a mosque in, let's say, Saudi Arabia, or perhaps...
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)It's almost comforting to know that the US doesn't have a monopoly on right-wing fucktards.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)(yes, I know, I'm talking to myself.)
The organization that made this video is Renouveau Français, which is a French far-right nationalist political party.
This is the fleur-de-lis I'm talking about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renouveau_fran%C3%A7ais
RainDog
(28,784 posts)The very definition of patriarchal in western society.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)looks like some spin doctoring for the patriarchy going on.
up is down.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)It's just such a bizarre synergy... Rad-fems, aligning with right-wing French Nationalists, aligning with Muslim women who don't want FEMEN to "dictate what they wear" (nevermind that nobody is dictating any such thing.. ) It's almost too much to wrap ones head around.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)If the Fenem story had originally been posted by a HOFfer instead of by a man, we may very well see a completely different dynamic in play here.
That is my opinion after being here on DU for over a decade.
Take it or leave it.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)I would like to think myself (and a few others) above that, but I couldn't say for certain.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)These FEMEN ladies strike me as being a fair bit more aligned with the likes of Tribe 8 than Twisty Faster
RainDog
(28,784 posts)The disagreements with certain people here (you can call them HoFers - I don't follow that group, so I can't i.d. on that basis) has to do with disagreements over issues of free speech vs. labeling activities as hurtful to all women.
The history includes these "HoFers" telling other women they aren't feminists because they don't agree with their positions on issues - with THEM making the attacks on people.
When I called someone out on this bullshit, I was attacked. I was also told I was a pedophile enabler because I doubted the veracity of a blogger. When I complained about this to the admins.. oh well. The people here who did that disgust me. They don't speak for women - they speak for a subset of thought that is repressive in its interpretation of issues and many well-regarded feminists historically and now disagree.
The "HoFers" are the ones who have posted links to right wing hate groups in support of their positions. Oh, and here it is again. Judith Reisman is not a feminist icon, nor does she speak for feminists yet seabeyond was linking to her to make arguments.
The point is that they are aligning with far right wing positions - AND THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR DECADES. Oh, and look - here it is again.
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)And you have to give them this, they are raising awareness whether one likes their "method" or not...
MADem
(135,425 posts)That Marine Le Pen and her paw...something else! They take blatant racism to a whole new level.
The creepiest of the creepy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Marie_Le_Pen
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Good for them. I can understand where they are coming from.
Some will ogle at first, but after a few minutes, it wears off.
I think they are on the right track.
and have seen many titties.If kids can do this and people react,I applaud them.
The gal on the right in the pic I posted above looks like she means business.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Cover yourselves!
Those folks and Islamists, strange bedfellows indeed!
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Protests are like art, if people yawn you failed.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)They're not going to listen if you talk to them politely, so the better tactic is to go Andy Kaufman on them.
Of course they'll be offended - it's the only way to get them to pay attention.
Sure they'll get pissy and tell you to fuck off and leave in a huff, or worse.
But the truth is that you've got your meme in their head, and while they're pissed off and turned off now, you planted a seed that could sprout a few years from now.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)sigmasix
(794 posts)Extremists from both ends of the spectrum are shitting themselves trying to figure out the functional dynamics and social indicators of these protests. Plenty fun to watch how this all shakes-out in the end.