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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am having a difficult time getting a read on how we are doing...
I cannot figure out what the current state of liberal/progressive politics is, at this moment.
A fellow Dem told me I was blind to the slow success the Tea Party has getting their messages out. She said that by the time the 2014 mid- term elections roll around, all of political arguing will make it feel like 2010 all over again.....because Dems will look weak, and the base will stay home.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Ninga
(8,282 posts)and depressed voters and the turn out was record "low numbers" especially in Ohio.
Fast forward to current day....try to find one person on the street who understands Chained CPI,
but not sure except thinks its bad.....and who wins in that scenario?
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Ninga
(8,282 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)is that internally and maybe this is obvious, "progressives" and "liberals" are not quite on the same page. I consider myself among the latter and quite at odds over the way things are going. Just my honest opinion.
Ninga
(8,282 posts)difficult time getting our voters to come out.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)Obama seems to be telling his base you have to learn to give stuff up. That is why we get shellacked. When you look weak the American public abandons you. I have not seen any strong progressive kick back from this administration in 4 years.
I voted for Obama and support him because the alternative is so much worse. He keeps coughing up Medicare and Social Security every chance he gets. That is disaster if he pushes Dems to compromise on those programs.
Obama is not particularly strong about supporting unions and government employees either.
So I hear a weak progressive message because Obama believes progressives are too strident and left. That we need to be more moderate and be the adult in the room. Well it is not working. We are losing ground to the tea party and hate radio that covers 90% of the country.
2014 could be a disaster like 2010.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Ninga
(8,282 posts)didn't t work, and Dems in Ohio from Gov through Congress lost.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)And a bunch of crybabies on both sides drowning what's barely left of reasonable people in America in tears is what we have.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...supposedly the President is responsible for 100% of the American people, not only for those who voted for him. Unfortunately the rushpublicans have become a provincial party only interested in their own rabid and unhinged base...fearful of the ire and possibility of a primary challenge. Thus any deal with President Obama is viewed as betrayal. Unfortunately the President is trying to nudge a gridlock government off center with little success. The GOTB "gameplan" is to obstruct and make politics so poisoned that people get turned off and apathetic. It's their only hopes to win elections...voter suppression takes many shapes...
Cheers...
pscot
(21,024 posts)And lumping us in with the Teabaggers? Maybe you could unpack that for us.
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Same thing that happened during the last midterms.
Ninga
(8,282 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....how'd that turn out for the GOP Tea-Nazis?
The issues faced by the GOP during the 2012 election cycle will not get any better for them by 2014. They have massive problems with minority voters, earned benefits, education, women's rights, and other issues too numerous to list.
pscot
(21,024 posts)and the sequester is a major win for teabaggery. I hope you're right about 2014. I think we'll be lucky to hold what we now have.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....just wait until the full effects are being felt in Tea-Nazi districts by GOPers who voted those creeps into office.
Ninga
(8,282 posts)voters into thinking "it's both parties...to hell with voting"
pscot
(21,024 posts)To Obama's fox. He flung 'em right where they wanted to go; they were born and bred in a briar patch.
Ninga
(8,282 posts)perspective that the voters inclined to support Dems (not considered loyal, strong voters) are easily discouraged by the awful tone in Wash.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)No "base" stays home, anyway. That's not a base, that a bunch of morans who think they are punishing someone other than themselves.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)If a citizen thinks he/she is doing well or that things are getting better they'll probably vote for the party that appears to be making that happen. If not, they'll want a change.