College Rape Survivor Faces Potential Expulsion For ‘Intimidating’ Her Rapist

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/20/bob-beckel-college-rape-guns_n_2726173.html?utm_hp_ref=media

Soxnews shares a braincell among the entire staff. They have to pass it around. What a stupid thing to say! I hope he gets fired for saying it.

on Fox

They sure wanted to move on after that moment. The lot of them are idiots.

As a local resident, to say I am not pleased by the administration's behavior is a gross understatement.

This is far from an isolated incident

Trigger warning
http://amherststudent.amherst.edu/?q=article/2012/10/17/account-sexual-assault-amherst-college

Who the fuck do they think they are? She handled it better than I. I would have burned the fucking place down.

and my jaw agape. I just cannot believe the way she was treated. It makes my blood boil and it makes me furious. What kills me probably the most is that the dean at the time who was the ringleader in mistreating and stomping this girl down was FEMALE. Hello??? How in the HELL could she treat another woman like that who was a victim of SEXUAL ASSAULT and still go home and look at herself in the mirror? I just cannot wrap my brain around it.

We need to address it not as evil people but bringing awareness. Because we cannot just take care of one or two people. it is across the nation and around the world.

exactly what they were doing.

I imagine she was ignorant of how wrong her ideas about responsibility are.

The administration of the school, which pressures women to STFU so their reputation isn't tarnished, that's a different story. And it is so common.

on campus teaches at University of North Carolina - Wilmington. I can't tell if it's the same campus, but he paints his campus as a hot bed of liberalism and left wing oppression. He's also a total asshole and a bit of liar, so not sure if he's representation is accurate.

He also opposes wearing T-Shirts that say "Gay - Fine by me."

Bryant

Not sure how he fits into this discussion...

I wrote about him a lot back when I was blogging - he's a piece of work.

consists of 17 universities under the UNC umbrella. UNC CHapel Hill being the largest, best known in the system. A series of great schools both large and small bringing higher education to the masses. Both our sons attend UNC schools, one at the smallest in the system, UNC School of the Arts(very, very, very liberal as is our son(both sons are liberals), the other at UNCWilmington. Of cousre our governor and other current idiots in charge of State Govenment want to remove the Liberal Arts from the UNC system and produce only college programs that allow the student to gain beneficial employment etc....but that's another topic in the discussion forums....

And, Chapel Hill, both the town (the entire area, actually) and UNC are very liberal. Wilmington is NOT liberal.

Carolina has a lot of egg on their face for this, and it is playing very badly both locally and in academic circles, because it's Chapel Hill.

at UNCW and he and most, if not all his friends at UNCW, are liberal, supporting Obama and the progressive side. He hasn't mentioned this guy.

When you see "UNC" without a city name behind it they're talking about the Chapel Hill campus.

UNC-Wilmington is on the coast.

They know what sexual assault is Ms. Gambill, they just don't care.

At least she's shedding more light on one of the dirtier secrets of our American universities -- It's damn near impossible to get expelled...I've known of serial rapists, drug addicts/dealers, burglary rings, repeated drunk drivers, academic cheats, attempted murderers, extortionists, stalkers, etc. who have all made it to graduation day.

The ONLY surefire way to immediately get kicked out of college is to not pay your bills...End of list...

The article says nothing about it being reported to the police. By "authorities" do you mean police?

THAT is what everyone is pissed at -- the two should be linked.

Many colleges and universities treat sexual assault like a code violation.
http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2013/02/11/college-rape-eileen-mcnamara

Thanks for the article. I agree with its observation that colleges need to get out of the law enforcement business and start turning over all sexual assault allegations to police, refocusing their own efforts on educating students about rape to prevent attacks that are as commonplace as they are underreported.

as being part of FERPA - meaning, they are crimes and they should be as reportable as any crime reported to the city police - I had many long conversations with disciplinary deans about why those reported to them aren't "crimes."

Their idea was, because it wasn't reported to a court of law, it wasn't a "crime," but a disciplinary action.

While I got their legal definition, I didn't buy it.

My fellow school reporters and I from the University of Tennessee sued the U.S. Department of Education and it's then secretary, Lamar Alexander, our university's former president, and won in summary judgment. The federal court judge found that preventing the exposure of these crimes violated the 1st, 4th and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

How are these schools skirting that court ruling?

Little/no oversight/enforcement would be my first guess.

THIS issue should garner so much more attention than "We saw your boobs"...

On topic: There is something intrinsically foul and repugnant with this "honor" code...

See the quote in post 11.

Treating women with respect is important. Men aren't required to 'show their (anythings)' to be successful actors, because as men they're not subjected ubiquitous objectification.

that action will result in fewer rapes.

can you clarify your post please? I'm sure your not saying that.

Women, right now, are barely getting a legal foothold into patriarchal legal systems. Look at how Republican males are treating their Republican colleagues. Look at how ALEC is suddenly back on the patriarchal march across fifty states. Every time there's one step forward women are PUSHED two steps back.

After decades of women intentionally not approaching the problems of rape culture on men's terms -- by meeting force with force -- perhaps it's time to do just that ...

- with use of force. But yeah, a lot seem married to their physical role in all this- all the "work they've done" and claims they are supposed to be "white nights". You'd think us women set up forced labour camps for men or something. It's bizarre how put upon them claim to be. I have to ask men in RL if they ever feel this way.
Thanks for the thoughtful response when I completely misread you!

the only terms male dominated 'systems' -- official and unofficial -- understand and respect.

something to consider. Anything short of violence might work for me!
Tks for your patience. I totally need a nap.

in the so-called "boob song, and I won;t even get into the Rhianna getting beaten "joke."

That is related to this.

Nor is it 'post' anything. The 'joke' is still at the expense of the oppressed of that class who suffer, and the other members of that class certainly know that their empathic feelings are more authentic than any manipulated laugh. So no. Not funny.

that a young woman would be courageous enough to step forward about her rape and be vilified and dishonored. To say that it was unthinkable that she was raped because she admitted being depressed and had attempted suicide - what century is this university living in. This is not, and never should be, an honor code matter. And because of the way the university handles things the local police should investigate.

The university needs to have its federal funds put on hiatus until they can truly say the campus is as secure as they can make it and take steps to bring to justice the rapists/attempted rapists.

A woman should be able to be safe - where ever she lives, what ever she does - yes even prostitutes should be able to go to the police when raped and not have to worry about being berated because "she was asking for it".

http://amherststudent.amherst.edu/?q=article/2012/10/17/account-sexual-assault-amherst-college

http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2013/02/11/college-rape-eileen-mcnamara

I told my husband about this and he showed me this -
http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/sexualassault/college_campuses_and_rape.htm

60% of male college students “indicated some likelihood of raping or using force in certain circumstances.”
Men in fraternities appear to engage in more non-physical coercion and use of drugs and alcohol as a sexual strategy than do independents.
Every 21 hours there is another rape on an American college campus.
90% of all campus rapes occur under the influence of alcohol.
Men are more likely than women to assume that a woman who drinks alcohol on a date is a willing sex partner. 40% of men who think this way also believe it is acceptable to force sex on an intoxicated woman.
Alcohol use at the time of the attack was found to be one of the four strongest predictors of a college woman being raped.
43% of college men admit using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman’s protest; using physical aggression; and forcing intercourse; 15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraint to force a woman to have sex.
College rape victims receive external physical injuries in over 47% of all rapes.
Of the college woman who are raped, only 25% describe it as rape.
Of the college women who are raped, only 10% report the rape.
College women are most vulnerable to rape during the first few weeks of the freshman and sophomore years.
One in twelve college-age men admit having fulfilled the prevailing definition of rape or attempted rape, yet virtually none of these men identify themselves as rapists.
34% of completed rapes and 45% of attempted rapes take place on campus. Almost 60% of the completed campus rapes that take place on campus occur in the victim's residence, 31% occur in another residence, and 10% occur in a fraternity.
3/4 of off-campus rapes and 7/8 of on-campus rapes involved perpetrators who were known to the victims.
78% of the men identified (as rapists) were an acquaintance, friend or boyfriend of the victims.
Most rapes occur on the weekend.


Until the police and courts accept that rape - no matter the circumstances - is wrong, young women are at the mercy of men.

The Jezebel piece linked to doesn't get into that.

Some comments on the piece suggest not.

I tried a Google search and didn't come up with much.

Has she filed a criminal complaint?

Has anyone been arrested?

Has the case been adjudicated anywhere?

The suggestion is that there is systematic mishandling of these things at UNC, which certainly merits looking into, but if Gambill is making false allegations, that's a serious matter, too.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/10/25/after_angie_epifano_amherst_rape_victims_speak_out_no_wonder_college_students.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/27/education/amherst-account-of-rape-brings-tension-to-forefront.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2013/02/11/college-rape-eileen-mcnamara

I'm sure its all just a huge conspiracy among women, right?

I see you still haven't provided any for this particular case.

I think rape on campus is a serious problem. That doesn't mean we don't examine claims.

Sheesh. I must question the basic human dignity of anyone who wants to play armchair detective in the first instinct after hearing about a woman's story of rape.

Now logically, one wouldn't think that false rape accusations are dramatically more common than false accusations of any other crime against a person. And yet victims of say, robbery or aggravated assault, are never (or almost never) so readily disbelieved.

UNC is covering its ass about this serious issue, taking the Penn State silence attitude about a serious problem.