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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:35 AM Feb 2013

National Review Blogger Michael Walsh Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

Michael Walsh of National Review Online called for the termination of women’s right to vote last week:

Nevertheless, you’re on to something I’ve been advocating for years now. And that is the repeal of all four of the so-called “Progressive Era” amendments, including the 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th, which were passed between 1911 and 1920.


One of those has already been repealed—the 18th amendment, which ushered in Prohibition—which Walsh admits. That’s not really what he’s on about anyway:

The income-tax amendment was a self-evident attack on capitalism and led to the explosive growth of the federal government we currently enjoy today. (Without it, there’d be no need for a Balanced Budget Amendment.) Direct elections of senators has given us, among other wonders, the elevation of John F. Kerry to, now, secretary of state. Prohibition was directly responsible for the rise of organized crime and itsunholy alliance with the big-city Democratic machines. And women’s suffrage . . . well, let’s just observe that without it Barack Obama could never have become president. Time for the ladies to take one for the team.


I suppose we’re supposed to imagine it’s a “joke”, because he takes a jovial tone for the last one. But if so, it doesn’t make sense. He’s dead fucking serious about the other two—three, really, because he only seems to be against Prohibition because he believes it gave Democrats a leg up, which is one of those deaf-to-historical-change moments that lead Republicans to imagine that Lincoln would have anything to do with the modern version of their party—so, as a joke, it falls completely apart. If he hadn’t rolled it up with the other amendments initially, the “joke” defense he clearly has in his pocket would be an easier sell. Something like, “I’ve long advocated for the repeal of 3 of the Progressive Amendments (though one has already been repealed), and hey, ladies, sometimes you make me wish to repeal all four.” It would still be a misogynist joke, but easier to sell as a joke, even if not a very funny one.

As it stands, it’s clear he’s doing what Al Franken calls “kidding on the square“, where you say something you mean but pretend it’s a joke so you don’t have to take responsibility for it. Franken has some fun with it in his books, calling himself out for it and therefore turning a typically unfunny bit of passive-aggression into a for-real joke, but I’m guessing you all know that because of course you’ve read his books. Kidding on the square is a favorite tool of sexists, who want to say sexist things, but are too cowardly to say them directly. Walsh is just a particularly obvious example. And no, none of the other National Review bloggers argued with him on this point.

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National Review Blogger Michael Walsh Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage (Original Post) phantom power Feb 2013 OP
Hard to argue with any of this el_bryanto Feb 2013 #1
If there is a female President in the future he's going to feel....stupid. That is redundant, sorry monmouth3 Feb 2013 #2
Plenty of hot air, HappyMe Feb 2013 #3
is he related to deadbeat dad joe walsh? niyad Feb 2013 #4
And I call for locking away anybody who supports this Tea Party brand of fascism. sinkingfeeling Feb 2013 #5
With or without a trial? meow2u3 Feb 2013 #17
Women have suffraged enough. slackmaster Feb 2013 #6
Naw, make 'em sufferage with the rest of us! ;) JHB Feb 2013 #12
"ladies, take one for the team"?? first, I am no lady. second, the power structure in this country niyad Feb 2013 #7
Actually, Ann Coulter and Barbara Olson liberalhistorian Feb 2013 #8
yes, I remember that--was shocked at the time, now, just sickened. I like the "gift" part-- niyad Feb 2013 #9
Well done, Walsh. You now have everyone's attention, just like you wanted. Aristus Feb 2013 #10
I don't think he cares about that, though. liberalhistorian Feb 2013 #11
Agreed. Aristus Feb 2013 #13
So he wants to repeal women's rights and bring back prohibition. Initech Feb 2013 #14
Maybe next week he'll urge reinstituting slavery Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #15
I say let's repeal the voting rights of RWNJs meow2u3 Feb 2013 #16
Let republican women "take one" for their team. Ilsa Feb 2013 #18
Republican democracy: You don't like the way people vote, take away their right to it. n/t Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #19
Tearing up 100 years of progress is the definition of reactionary. reformist2 Feb 2013 #20

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. Hard to argue with any of this
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:39 AM
Feb 2013

That's pretty deplorable. Basically Walsh doesn't like democracy because it's not giving him what he wants. I sympathize (I remember Bush being elected twice and my current governor Rick Scott won an election as well), but don't think that's a good enough reason to give up democracy.

Bryant

meow2u3

(24,775 posts)
17. With or without a trial?
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:00 PM
Feb 2013

I'm all for due process, but in the case of Tea Party fascists, I'll have to make an exception.

niyad

(113,720 posts)
7. "ladies, take one for the team"?? first, I am no lady. second, the power structure in this country
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:55 AM
Feb 2013

is NOT my team, so, no, I have no plans to "take one for the team"

he can pretend he is joking all he wants, but he is not the first person to actually talk about repealing the 19th. the fact that people think they can actually say bs like this is worrisome, actually. (echoes of "the handmaid's tale", anyone?)

liberalhistorian

(20,822 posts)
8. Actually, Ann Coulter and Barbara Olson
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:03 PM
Feb 2013

(the wife of Bush-era U.S. Solicitor (the attorney who argues for the government before the SOTUS) Ted Olson, who died on the D.C. plane that hit the Pentagon on 9/11) were together arguing for just that back in 2000, saying that women hadn't done anything good with the "generous gift they'd been given" and that all the bad stuff us terrible Dems have been responsible for in the 20th century was largely their fault for largely voting for Dems. Their thinking was that since us gals hadn't done right by such a "gift", (i.e., done what THEY wanted) then it should be taken away from us. That was chilling enough, but the fact that they were women made it even worse.

Sometimes I have to check the calendar to make sure it really is 2013.

niyad

(113,720 posts)
9. yes, I remember that--was shocked at the time, now, just sickened. I like the "gift" part--
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:12 PM
Feb 2013

more of that sickening, condescending patriarchal bs. rights are not "gifts". and the women who parrot that line are more sickening than the men.

2013 bce, perhaps? or some twisted version of the twilight zone?

Aristus

(66,487 posts)
10. Well done, Walsh. You now have everyone's attention, just like you wanted.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:16 PM
Feb 2013

It's a shame, though, that you won't be able to do anything of value with it...

liberalhistorian

(20,822 posts)
11. I don't think he cares about that, though.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:10 PM
Feb 2013

What he cares about is attention which will get him and his publication more money; it will work, unfortunately.

Initech

(100,121 posts)
14. So he wants to repeal women's rights and bring back prohibition.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:47 PM
Feb 2013

Yeah let's keep dragging America back into the dark ages.

meow2u3

(24,775 posts)
16. I say let's repeal the voting rights of RWNJs
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:59 PM
Feb 2013

It's simple. All you have to do is require that voters have to have an emotional age of 18 to vote, so that would make teabagger misogynists ineligible. They're too young to vote, anyhow--at least emotionally.

Ilsa

(61,709 posts)
18. Let republican women "take one" for their team.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 03:08 PM
Feb 2013

No one is forcing them to vote.

Do these bozos really think that saying this shit out loud is going to bring more women in to work for their cause?

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
20. Tearing up 100 years of progress is the definition of reactionary.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 06:17 PM
Feb 2013

It's time to call them what they are - they aren't conservatives anymore, they are full-blown retrograde reactionary. And that's scary. And I would add that if they get to repeal everything back to the 16th Amendment, it's only a matter of time before they'll start wanting to repeal the 13th, 14th and 15th...
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