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Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:50 AM Feb 2013

question about the Russian meteorite hit

was this one so small that they didn't know it was coming (like they do the one that will be a near-hit very soon), despite reports I've read that said it might have been 10 tons itself? I guess so, but I wanted anyone's thoughts on this that may know about meteors. If the one that will be a near-hit were to slam into the Earth, it would possibly kill millions, yes?

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question about the Russian meteorite hit (Original Post) Divine Discontent Feb 2013 OP
the other one is an asteroid isn't it ? JI7 Feb 2013 #1
I'd think most of what hit the ground was pretty small Warpy Feb 2013 #2
They definitely sounded like sonic booms, didn't they. longship Feb 2013 #4
It was Tree-Hugger Feb 2013 #8
I've seen several of them. longship Feb 2013 #12
Same here Tree-Hugger Feb 2013 #14
The average meteorite velocity is from 20 to 70 kilometers per second Fumesucker Feb 2013 #7
No, it blew apart over Chelyabinsk. Warpy Feb 2013 #15
Seems like we're flyin' blind sometimes. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #3
Anything big enough to see in advance with our current capabilities is a mega killer Fumesucker Feb 2013 #5
Exactly. If it's big enough to be seen, it's big enough to do a major whomp. hobbit709 Feb 2013 #11
John McCain has called for an investigation on this, what did Obama have to with doc03 Feb 2013 #6
+1 nt Tree-Hugger Feb 2013 #9
We're Constantly Pelted With Space Debris... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #10
Not an asteroid Tree-Hugger Feb 2013 #13

JI7

(89,249 posts)
1. the other one is an asteroid isn't it ?
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:56 AM
Feb 2013

i think we don't know about meteors until they hit but they are smaller than asteroids. with asteroids they are larger and we can see them further away.

someone else should be able to clear it up more. i'm kind of confused myself.

Warpy

(111,260 posts)
2. I'd think most of what hit the ground was pretty small
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:03 AM
Feb 2013

This thing pretty much blew itself up, making me think it was mostly ice.

I know all the injuries there were cited as being from flying glass broken by the shock wave, not high speed rocks.

It will be interesting to find out what the meteorite hunters find on the ground outside town.

What amazes me is how bright this thing was. Most of the fireballs that come in aren't visible during the day. This one looked as bright as sunlight.

Noisy bugger, too, blast followed by a couple of sonic booms were on one of the videos.

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. They definitely sounded like sonic booms, didn't they.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:28 AM
Feb 2013

I thought so, too. Not surprising from the reports of broken windows, etc. classic sonic boom results.

longship

(40,416 posts)
12. I've seen several of them.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:52 AM
Feb 2013

Once, while watching the Perseid meteor shower in the Mojave, a rather large bolide streaked through the sky. It made a sound similar to sizzling bacon. Amazing. No sonic boom, though. The trail lit up in all sorts of colors as it zoomed across the sky. I'll never forget that one.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
14. Same here
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:58 AM
Feb 2013

I heard hissing from one years ago. It was so cool. I thought I was hearing things. I put up a link further down this thread that explains the two types of sound that can occur. One is the hissing and crackling sound and the other is the sonic boom.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
7. The average meteorite velocity is from 20 to 70 kilometers per second
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:42 AM
Feb 2013

Mach one is 340 meters per second.

That means meteors are doing anywhere from Mach 30 over 100.

Sonic boom it was.

Warpy

(111,260 posts)
15. No, it blew apart over Chelyabinsk.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:10 PM
Feb 2013

The sound was detonation followed by two distinct sonic booms.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. Anything big enough to see in advance with our current capabilities is a mega killer
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:36 AM
Feb 2013

Most space rocks are dark colored, the distances are vast and the only means we have of finding them is from reflected sunlight or possibly the fact that they are slightly warmer than the background of deep space.


doc03

(35,337 posts)
6. John McCain has called for an investigation on this, what did Obama have to with
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:41 AM
Feb 2013

it and why didn't he stop it?

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
10. We're Constantly Pelted With Space Debris...
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:46 AM
Feb 2013

...it's how many scientists believe water and life came to be on this planet. There are tons of space rocks and ice that hit our atmosphere each year...most burns up long before it gets to the lower atmosphere...and those that do survive that far burn up just like in that video. It's actually quite natural...one hell of a light show.

Since the earth is 75% water and there are many areas...such as the Poles and desert regions that are sparsely populated...we rarely get to view these events. This is a classic "shooting star". We've launched tons of junk weighing 10 tons or more that regularly fall back to earth. NASA claims they track them...but it's a proverbial needle in a cosmic haystack.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
13. Not an asteroid
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:53 AM
Feb 2013

This was a meteorite. We can predict meteor showers as we move through debris fields. Individual little guys aren't really predictable.

This was a large fireball known as a bolide. Thecearth gets over a thousand of these a day, but they generally go unnoticed as they are not as bright as this one. The smoke trail and delayed sonic boom are normal for this kind of thing.

There is a lot of misinformation on the net about this thing right now. I have been passing around a link with more information.

http://www.amsmeteors.org/fireballs/faqf/

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