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Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:44 AM

**MY PERSONAL PLEA ** (updated)

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UPDATE: PLEASE SEE THIS LATEST "HELP A DUER" OP!






(Edit to add: While my plea below is to gather a circle of DUers who may be in a position to help others financially...even $20...on a regular basis, please know that by kicking and recommending posts you are HELPING TREMENDOUSLY. Plus, joining Wishadoo! would be a huge help, and reading this previous OP to see other ways to help me spread the word. Offering moral support, your wisdom and insight and any suggestions -- especially when the requests aren't always financial -- is PRICELESS. As they say, the more who gather...)


First, huge props to DUer, xchrom, for the daily posts bringing the issue of poverty up for discussion. Today's post by xchrom, "Fall on Hard Times, Have Your Kids Taken Away? How America Treats Poor Parents Like Criminals," combined with messages I've been increasingly receiving in private, prompted this rant.

I am fucking FURIOUS right now and perhaps shouldn't create a post in the heat of the moment, but I'm going with it. I'm so fucking furious that I'm not going to apologize for profanity. If profanity offends anyone reading this more than the suffering being experienced all around, well...too fucking bad. I also don't have the time to say everything I want to say and compose this coherently because I must focus on my work-work so I don't go over the cliff myself in the next few days. To be perfectly honest, after having my hours cut back last year and with my S.O., who is over 50, unable to find a job for several years now, we often find ourselves living on $20 for two weeks. I shit you not. Many of you know exactly what that's like. I am sharing that so you know I hear you and know of what I speak. I'm saying it OUT LOUD now.

It's pathetic and ridiculous what we've been reduced to as a nation as far as our values and how we treat one another as a whole. We've been fed this "bootstrap/welfare queen" meme for decades now, so much so that it's part of our collective psyche. So many have been beaten down and fight amongst ourselves, which is precisely what a small segment of our society wants. People like Limbaugh and Beck are paid to perpetuate the anger, hopelessness and, eventually, hate.

The deck is stacked against most of us and things happen that are beyond our control, and without a safety net many of us are falling off a cliff. Silently.

Even many DUers who know this and recognize that our system has set us up to struggle, and who realize that we ARE in this together are writing me, too embarrassed to ask others for help. They're not only embarrassed to ask because they feel they will be viewed as a failure, but embarrassed because perhaps they have been helped by other kind souls before (which exacerbates the failure feeling) and embarrassed because they fear their need or request isn't as worthy because someone, somewhere is always carrying a heavier burden. This is happening both at DU and elsewhere.

I'm furious that so many WONDERFUL people are suffering in silence...NEEDLESSLY. For those who may believe in and pray to a Higher Power, they're too humiliated to ASK OUT LOUD -- to ask other human beings for help -- for fear of judgment. (Please don't derail this thread by slamming religion or beliefs; atheists are embarrassed to ask other humans for help as well. It's part of our human condition now, at least here in the States.)

IT TAKES COURAGE TO ASK FOR HELP OUT LOUD.

In my opinion, our government and institutions are a reflection of us. WE must change first. We must see and accept that we're all in this together.


Wishadoo!'s Wishlist -- a "craigslist of compassion" -- was created to be a safe place to have the courage to ask, offer, give, receive and pay it forward.

We all need something, and we all have something to give. One need isn't more "worthy" than another. We just need to ASK OUT LOUD.

http://www.wishadoo.org/wishlist


So, in this impromptu OP, I'm ASKING FOR SOMETHING OUT LOUD.

For any of you DUers who have the financial means to help other DUers when they are in severe distress and with a time limit -- or do know those of means who may want to be of service in this direct way -- would you please PM me? I could create a list of "go-to" people who are perhaps able to help fairly reliably (no expectation, no obligation of course), and then contact you directly rather than assume you will see my periodic Wishadoo! OPs.

A LONG-TIME, very well-known, beloved DUer is in a dire situation and needs help by Friday. There is no PayPal account so I'm trying to figure this out right now. An anonymous Wishlist post will be created later today, which will enable me to share here via one of the approved OPs, but for now I'm asking if there are DUers who would like to be part of an Angel Club of sorts, a go-to group of people I can contact whenever one of our own here are in dire need, as a way to expedite assistance.

If you're out there and see this, please contact me. And, please help keep this kicked.


Thank you.












ABOUT WISHADOO!: Anyone is welcome to use the tools at Wishadoo, so long as the Terms of Service are adhered to (basically "play nice" and don't lie). This includes creating posts in the Wishlist, a "craigslist of compassion." Most of us are struggling with one thing or another, and as you'll see, there are many categories in the Wishlist to cover a variety of issues/needs.

Wishadoo! is a comprehensive portal providing tools, resources and inspiration to connect, help/be helped, and cultivate compassion, cooperation and authentic community in myriad ways, online and in our own "backyards." Wishadoo!'s tools have been designed to integrate and be of service to all sectors of community: individuals, neighborhoods, schools, organizations and businesses.

The Wishlist is where we can ask, offer, give, receive and pay it forward. If you create a Wishlist post, let me know your DU name, and I can include it in the periodic OPs.

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Reply **MY PERSONAL PLEA ** (updated) (Original post)
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 OP
boston bean Feb 2013 #1
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #2
boston bean Feb 2013 #3
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #13
Laelth Feb 2013 #4
Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #5
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #23
Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #25
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #27
Amonester Feb 2013 #6
NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #7
riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #8
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #9
Earth_First Feb 2013 #14
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #15
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #16
davsand Feb 2013 #10
The Straight Story Feb 2013 #11
cate94 Feb 2013 #12
Lifelong Protester Feb 2013 #17
memory Feb 2013 #18
arthritisR_US Feb 2013 #19
Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #20
The Straight Story Feb 2013 #21
retrogal Feb 2013 #22
Kookaburra Feb 2013 #24
madamesilverspurs Feb 2013 #26
LiberalLoner Feb 2013 #28
nancyfladem Feb 2013 #29
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #30
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #31
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #32
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #33
Sienna86 Feb 2013 #34
Flying Squirrel Feb 2013 #35
Flying Squirrel Feb 2013 #36
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #37
Ricochet21 Feb 2013 #38
kimmerspixelated Feb 2013 #39
Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #40
Sienna86 Feb 2013 #41
mntleo2 Feb 2013 #42
Hatchling Feb 2013 #43
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #44

Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:49 AM

1. kick for others to see, I'm sorry that's all I can do right now.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:52 AM

2. Please, no apologies....kicking is VERY helpful...

and MOST appreciated.

I don't expect many are in a position to help, but I'm trying to find them if they're out there.



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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:53 AM

3. I think what you do is amazing, and I am grateful

you are who you are, and you do what you do!

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Response to boston bean (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:53 PM

13. ...

Not sure I'm accomplishing much, but I certainly appreciate the support and kind words.





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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:54 AM

4. Kicking. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:57 AM

5. You are so right

Also I will answer anyone's questions regarding food assistance. I have been doing SNAP and medicaid eligibility for 4 years.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:02 PM

23. That is a PRICELESS contribution...

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

If you are so inclined, I would REALLY appreciate it if you would check out the Wishlist periodically -- either the Crisis or Food categories -- as your knowledge could be put to use quite often.

I'd love it if you'd join Wishadoo, too, so you could contact people directly when you have information they could use.





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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:12 PM

25. That is a great idea

There are times when my clients need things that the programs we offer can't provide and certainly I have clients who don't quite come in under the income limits but are no less in dire straits. I will definitley look into this. Thank you.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #25)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:21 PM

27. It's a long story, but 211 was going to work with Wishadoo...

with that same idea in mind. When there are no existing resources, Wishadoo! could be of service. Of course, the Wishadoo! community needs to grow and include those who are able to help, not only those in dire need, in order TO be of service.

I was in discussion with United Way, which runs the 211 program, to work together to create ONE portal of resources...a comprehensive FIND HELP Directory...but they ended up admitting it's useless, as there's too much red tape and their individual networks all compete with one another and thus nothing will ever be streamlined.

Sad.

But, I'm working with another organization now to create this directory -- AND CREATE JOBS via this project.

Finding existing resources is always the first step, as I see it.

I could accomplish so much more if I could get the darn oxygen mask on myself first...lol.

Anyway, thanks again, Puzzledtraveller!





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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:06 AM

6. K&R

It's for OPs like yours that I wish I was rich enough to give, but I'm barely just good enough to hold on by myself these days.

Thanks for posting, and bookmarked the link in case my numbers are drawn some day...

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:28 AM

7. Kicking this for those in need.

Some people out there are hurting.

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:31 AM

8. Big K&R! The DU community never fails to humble and amaze me. You are wonderful OneGrassRoot! nt

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:35 AM

9. I have oft thought that if each of us on DU could donate 1.00

to help someone else, it would make a hell of an impact.
anyone else up for that?

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:55 PM

14. I'm in!

When do we start?

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:17 PM

15. PM One Grass Root for starters

If enough of us volunteer..........
After all, DU is such an important community already, right?
Plus the idea is so socialistic.."from the many to the few" or however it goes
Dems have been accused of being socialists for so long now, so what the hell.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:18 PM

16. No kidding! :) n/t

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:51 AM

10. Kick!

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:24 PM

11. kick and thanks for all that you do (nt)

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:38 PM

12. K & R

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:26 PM

17. Giving a K & R for a worthy OP

I will PM you about joining your helping list.

I, too, shake my head and wonder why we can't seem to see. I had thought we'd be farther along the compassion road by now, but I am afraid I am disappointed. Your OP is the most hopeful thing I have seen here for a while. Thank you.

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:28 PM

18. K & R

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:35 PM

19. kick!

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:46 PM

20. Kick n/t

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:47 PM

21. Anything good on the scanner today?

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:57 PM

22. K and R!

This is such a wonderful idea!!!

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:03 PM

24. Kick

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:14 PM

26. kick

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:29 PM

28. kick

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:09 PM

29. Kicking and

Recommending.

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Response to nancyfladem (Reply #29)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:35 PM

30. I sent you...

an email.



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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:36 PM

31. When people are lost in the woods, it is common to find them HIDING from searchers

 

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Many who desperately need help view themselves as failures. They don't ask for help because they feel that they are not worthy of being helped. They feel that they do not deserve it. It's understandable -- that's the message our society sends. How often have you heard stories and songs like this:

We were dirt poor with a dirt floor, but daddy worked fourteen jobs and we always had food on the table. I had one pair of shoes and one set of nice clothes that momma sewed herself, but we were proud. We never took nothin' from no one, and we never took the welfare!

Even Dickens went down that road. Mr Cratchet, with seventy-two children (plus the loveable Tiny Tim), working a miserable job with the Scrooge, the actual Scrooge, as his boss -- somehow this poor but proud family had a Christmas turkey. It was small, but their poverty provided the spice to turn that dinner into a feast. They were so happy, so loving, such marvelous people, that it's a wonder the pages don't stick together from all the syrup.

Poor people in the real world judge themselves by these standards -- but higher, and they most often fail. They aren't wonderfully happy, their kids don't look up to them as heroes, they aren't working fourteen jobs. They are trying to find even one -- and the last time they had one they were so exhausted by the end of the day all they wanted to do was rest. No, they aren't saving for college, they aren't saving at all. They don't sew all their kids clothes. Christmas isn't a magical morning, it's the same artificial tree they have owned for the last five years, the same ornaments, and the only thing under it is dust. Santa often runs out of time and money before making it to the houses of the poor.

The only bright spot there is that their kids know it too, and didn't expect anything. They had hoped, but they are used to having their hopes go unfulfilled. You won't see poor kids freaking out that their parent's bought them the wrong color Iphone. This does not, however, lessen the guilt their parent's feel. It only makes it worse. It's a pain I know all too well myself. My tree this year had exactly zero presents under it. It wasn't the first time. My daughter wasn't disappointed, she knew ahead of time that she was getting nothing for Christmas this year. Ho ho ho.

Anyway, I am going to stop here. It doesn't matter anyway.

Consider this a heartfelt endorsement of Wishadoo. They are TRYING to do something to help other people. If you can, I think you should as well.

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #31)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:23 PM

32. I hear you...

Boy, do I hear you.

BIG to you and your daughter, from me and my daughter.



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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #32)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:30 PM

33. Thanks! You as well :)

 

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #33)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:33 PM

34. I'm in on the monthly donation idea

Sent you a PM.

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:17 PM

35. K&R

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:19 PM

36. For some reason

the "DU Rec" button is close to the middle of the page on this post, which makes it kind of hard to find. Might want to reformat the post.

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Response to Flying Squirrel (Reply #36)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:29 PM

37. Really? I see it at the bottom, next to the FB and twitter icons as usual...

Not sure how I could do anything to change it.



Thanks for K&R'ing though.



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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:41 PM

38. KR

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:12 PM

39. DOne!

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:27 AM

40. K and R nt

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:50 PM

41. I like the idea of joining the Helping List

Good work OGR.

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:15 AM

42. Kick!!!!!!!

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:34 AM

43. Western Union.

A LONG-TIME, very well-known, beloved DUer is in a dire situation and needs help by Friday. There is no PayPal account so I'm trying to figure this out right now


Collect it through Paypal and send it Western Union.

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Response to Hatchling (Reply #43)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:41 AM

44. The OP linked to gives an update...

Sorry, these posts get confusing; I need to figure out a better system. That DUer got the help he needed.

But to your point...

I was researching this yesterday, and Western Union's site said they don't accept PayPal.

Do you know if that has changed?

Thanks.

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