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Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:05 PM

Sounds like they may have Dorner cornered on the mountain

lots of helicopters all the sudden, and people talking.

I am not near a television.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:09 PM

1. Kicking in the hope of amplification.

Oh heck. R&K

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Response to longship (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:13 PM

4. I'm told there is a white truck stops somewhere but I don't know where.

The word I got was that he stole a car near the ski resort where is the command post was

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:12 PM

2. Nothing on MSNBC.

But I'm in NY.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:12 PM

3. got a link to that police scanner channel?

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:13 PM

6. I'm sorry I'm at work in my truck.

All I know is what I've heard by word of mouth.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:13 PM

5. He never made it off the mountain where he burned his car?

Last edited Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:01 PM - Edit history (1)

But he's been planning this since he was fired in 2008. That's encouraging. But they've been wrong before.


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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:14 PM

7. Wait, I thought he had gone to Mexico, or Wal Mart, or . . .

 

Frankly I'm not going to believe anything until he is actually captured.

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Response to MadHound (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:15 PM

8. Just passing along what other locals are telling me.

I can't get ahold of anyone who is near a television.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:17 PM

9. live video link CBS Los Angeles - possible Dorner sighting in Big Bear, shots fired

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:17 PM

10. CNN is on it. nt.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:17 PM

11. from cnn screen: "reports of activity near manhunt site"

that's all.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:17 PM

12. KTLA, truck stolen, Shots fired at F and G officials..

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:18 PM

13. I just heard all roads in and out of Big Bear are closed.

And someone is reporting shots were fired in the Barton flats area.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:20 PM

15. Looks like the real deal

 

AP is saying it's him.

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Response to RZM (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:24 PM

18. Sure does.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:20 PM

16. burglarized couple's home and tied them up

has stolen their car and is now on the run (from ABC link above)

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:21 PM

17. I think you're going to start hearing about a hostage ordeal.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:25 PM

19. 2008 white dodge pick up.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:27 PM

21. reports now of gunfire.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:29 PM

24. the reporter CBS LA is talking to (Carter Evans) is right near the gunfire

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Response to eShirl (Reply #24)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:32 PM

27. you can hear the gunfire

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Response to eShirl (Reply #24)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:36 PM

30. He was told to get the fuck out of there! This is terrifying.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:28 PM

23. KTLA: Officer Down

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:30 PM

25. I would bet money Dorner dies today.

Either by his own hand or someone elses.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:40 PM

32. Yep !

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:19 PM

61. I hope you are giving big odds. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #61)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:23 PM

68. Actually I would have bet he was dead already, given enough time to contemplate what

he'd done.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:19 PM

62. Yep, gotta agree. I think it will be by his own hand. n/t

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:30 PM

26. kick

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:34 PM

28. OMG listen to the gunfire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:35 PM

29. and the cop yelling "hey! Get the fuck out of here!"

damn

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Response to eShirl (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:05 PM

162. He was yelling that to a newsperson who just "had to get the story"

I hope his presence there was not a factor in that deputy losing his life..

I have been furious with some of the reporting..

One was listing the vehicles showing up and describing the weapons the police had..

I know they all want to scoop each other, but giving out information that could be useful to the criminal is lunacy..

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:38 PM

31. I thought I would be happy if he got captured.

 

But it's just sad

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Response to dkf (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:41 PM

33. I am especially sad that someone else had to get hurt.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #33)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:42 PM

34. A fish & game officer was hurt.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #33)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:48 PM

42. The whole thing is a tragedy.

 

Say what you will about LAPD and law enforcement, what those guys are doing now is BRAVE. And they are protecting the public.

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Response to dkf (Reply #42)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:16 PM

59. I know I said earlier that today would be his last day by his hand or someone else's...

But what are the people who were SURE the LAPD needed him dead going to say if he's taken alive? By LAPD?

Everyone involved today has shown incredible bravery

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #35)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:47 PM

40. That's fucking uncalled for.

 

Sick.

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Response to Light House (Reply #40)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:21 PM

64. He has a thing for me. He's referencing a thread I posted that said

I had a loaded gun on my nightstand the other night.

Since I know he'll read this I'd like to take this opportunity to say Hi to him.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #64)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:27 PM

76. Yeah, I read what you wrote the other day

 

and I'm in full agreement with you, you have the right to defend yourself against a threat to your life. Stay safe my friend.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:45 PM

36. CBS radio in LA reporting two deputies wounded, conditions unclear.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:46 PM

37. confirmed- 2 deputies shot

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #37)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:46 PM

38. one already airlifted

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #37)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:47 PM

39. Hopefully they both live and make full recoveries. nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #39)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:55 PM

45. ah, please... yes. nt

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #37)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:50 PM

43. Not sure of their condition.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:48 PM

41. Listening to it live on my scanner.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:53 PM

44. i rad the other thread and was thinking about you.

i have fond memories of big bear, so i recalled when you talked about it.

stay safe.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:56 PM

46. 30-35 minutes till armored car gets there. They have him cornered in a cabin exchanging fire with hi

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Response to Separation (Reply #46)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:58 PM

47. How do you know he's in a cabin? MSNBC isn't

mentioning anything about that.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #47)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:59 PM

48. Just heard it over the scanner.

They are waiting on armored car.

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Response to Separation (Reply #48)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:00 PM

49. Thanks. Interesting. nt

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:06 PM

50. They popped smoke on the ground.

 

Marking dust off landing?

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Response to rdharma (Reply #50)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:10 PM

52. yeah, what is that?

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #52)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:02 PM

159. Dust off

 

Sorry. Medical evacuation by helicopter.

They drop (pop) a smoke grenade..... to mark a possible landing area and wind direction.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:09 PM

51. Stay safe and keep your head down.

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:10 PM

53. I know this area well.

There are several old 4X4 forest service roads from Big Bear down to Seven Oaks. I've been on most of them before but a lot of them are closed now. I wonder if he took one of those trails. It makes sense to me that he could end up there from Big Bear.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:11 PM

54. omg CBS just got pranked on air

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #54)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:12 PM

55. Some people need to find something better to do.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #54)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:12 PM

56. So did Channel 9 KCAL n/t

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #56)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:15 PM

58. did they say "ronnie the limo driver?

is that a howard stern thing?

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #58)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:17 PM

60. I think KCAL and KCBS use the same feed. I heard something about a block party

and then the guy on the phone was calling the reporter a dumbass.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:15 PM

57. "they need to cut their broadcast, giving away SWAT position" didn't catch name of news agency nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #57)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:20 PM

63. helicopters leaving now n/t

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #63)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:22 PM

66. they have mentioned TFR several times, whatever that is nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #66)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:24 PM

69. Temporary Flight Restrictions (just googled it)

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #69)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:25 PM

71. thanks, they mentioned 12800 feet I think nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #71)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:30 PM

83. Here

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_8083.html

up to 13,000 ft. 5 mile radius.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #83)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:31 PM

87. good research, ty ! nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #87)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:33 PM

92. No problem gotta love the google...

Also very I impressed by swift government action on the flight restrictions.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #69)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:26 PM

75. Sounds like he has been RIGHT under their noses for the whole time...

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #75)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:28 PM

78. they said it's about 20 miles from Big Bear city.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #78)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:54 PM

155. > 20 miles by winding mountain road - less than 5 miles as the crow flies

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #75)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:37 PM

97. I don't blame them, by the time the truck was found the fire was out and it was

only smoldering. No one is really sure what time it burned.

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #57)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:21 PM

65. They are asking the media to leave so they can execute Dorner.

Sounds like has hostages..

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Response to HipChick (Reply #65)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:23 PM

67. Or, y'know, so that he can't see what they're doing live. (nt)

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Response to HipChick (Reply #65)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:25 PM

70. My thoughts exactly. They don't want their actions filmed nt

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #70)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:12 PM

128. Do you think the police should make no effort to secure the scene of a gun battle? nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #128)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:22 PM

202. Of course, but the problem is, they have no credibility

so everything they say, even when it's normal protocol, will be viewed suspiciously.

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Response to HipChick (Reply #65)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:25 PM

72. I hope the LA SWAT team shoots better than the street cops.

Otherwise, we'll be here for weeks.

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Response to HipChick (Reply #65)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:25 PM

73. Probably true

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Response to HipChick (Reply #65)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:09 PM

125. Oh Jeebus, what a stupid comment. Cops generally order everyone out of the area of a gun battle.

Dorner is shooting in their direction, and the last thing anyone needs is onlookers getting in the cross-fire.

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #57)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:29 PM

81. CBS Channel 9

 

They got telephone pranked LIVE on air by some a-hole posing as a spokesman for LE agency.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:26 PM

74. Medical being allowed through control point.....

 

Probably stand off over.

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Response to rdharma (Reply #74)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:28 PM

79. Possible.. medical only gets through when scene is secure.

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Response to mtnester (Reply #79)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:31 PM

88. when scene is secure.

 

Or the scene is contained (securely surrounded) and med can be safely "staged" closer.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:28 PM

77. Keep your head down.

If you get shot and can't buy me that Egg Nog next winter, I'll never speak to you again.









Sorry. Couldn't resist!

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Reply #77)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:31 PM

85. LOL Don't worry, I'll move heaven and earth to get you that egg Nog.

Christopher Dorner be damned.

Be Well My Friend!

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #85)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:33 PM

91. You too, pal. You too.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:28 PM

80. ok scanner went totally quiet now nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #80)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:29 PM

82. Back channels or they went car to car

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Response to mtnester (Reply #82)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:32 PM

89. The day this started they were using cell phones because they were afraid he was listening

in on the scanner.

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #80)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:31 PM

84. sounds like routine stuff now back on scanner nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #80)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:31 PM

86. MSNBC is guessing...

they changed frequencies.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:32 PM

90. Yikes. Good luck to all the law enforcement involved.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #90)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:34 PM

93. +1 n/t

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #90)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:34 PM

94. agreed ! nt

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:36 PM

95. "code 33's been lifted", not sure if this is germane to Dorner nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #95)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:40 PM

104. That means that the channel is clear for other non-emergency traffic......

 

It's over.....

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:37 PM

96. "Code 33 has been lifted."

What could that be?


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #96)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:38 PM

100. A ban of non-emergency communication... n/t

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #96)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:39 PM

102. I googled it



Police radio Code 33 means "Clear radio channel - emergency traffic only."

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #96)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:41 PM

105. Apparently Code 33 is emergency traffic only... clear the channel. n/t

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #96)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:41 PM

106. Code 33 means clear channels for emergency traffic. NT

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:37 PM

98. Pretty sure that DU posts just got quoted on MSNBC...

they were the pro Dorner posts of course... anyone else hear that?

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #98)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:38 PM

99. I'm watching local news. n/t

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #99)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:39 PM

103. It was the Dorner is the "Dark Knight" stuff...

was that on DU? I swear I read it.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #103)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:41 PM

107. Yes it was. It was posted this morning. n/t

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #108)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:44 PM

110. Thanks.

It's kind of "cool" too see it mentioned on the news... even though I disagreed with the post.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #98)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:39 PM

101. There's tons of that all over the Internet.

It's amazing how many people somehow think this is just a big put-on by the LAPD.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #98)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:55 PM

122. What a Moron Tweety is.

He's calling it an only in LA story. That's over sixty miles from LA. Big Bear is about seventy miles. It's not even in the same county as LA. If they are going to report live stories could they please just get the details that are verifiable right? It makes all their reporting suspect if they don't get it right.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:43 PM

109. nvm they are discussing a plate nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #109)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:44 PM

112. That may be because of the number of people who are trying to stream from it.

Are you talking about the bigbearscanner.com? If so, its owner just had to add 800 more streams the other day.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #112)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:45 PM

114. no I'm on radioreference.com nt

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:44 PM

111. It's over.

 

Those CBS channel 9 a-holes are trying to get more milage out of it ....... for ratings?!!!!

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Response to rdharma (Reply #111)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:45 PM

113. Do you know something no one else does?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #113)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:47 PM

115. I sort of agree from the live shots I am seeing people seem to be unarming themselves...

Not sure though.

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Response to rdharma (Reply #120)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:54 PM

121. I wouldn't either.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:49 PM

116. CNN is reporting he may have hostages. Damn.

This is truly terrible.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #116)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:50 PM

117. I heard when he left the Moonridge area he had hostages in the truck but can't confirm that. n/t

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #117)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:52 PM

118. I don't know. They're being wishy washy about that now. Hope it's not true.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #117)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:08 PM

124. That would be a shame, but it shouldn't be a surprise

The guy WAS a cop, after all -- who's better qualified to know what the cops will do to catch him?


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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:53 PM

119. talking about AOS (?) going to Redlands getting gas coming back nt

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:08 PM

123. I hope they take him into custody before anyone else is hurt

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:11 PM

126. He made a big mistake not disappearing into the Mojave Desert, but

someone who seems to be as deranged as him wouldn't think very clearly about an escape plan. I knew he couldn't hole up in those mountains for very long.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #126)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:13 PM

129. How long would he last in the Mojave desert?

Dying of thirst is a rotten way to go.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #129)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:16 PM

131. There is civilization out there. He wouldn't die of thirst. There are

a lot of places, and a lot of eccentrics living out there. The main point though is that there are a lot of roads in the desert. In the mountains, there is limited access and places to exit so it's easier for the police to set up bottle necks and road blocks something that would be very hard to do in the desert.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #131)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:17 PM

133. Lots of walking between those eccentrics. Lots of roads, but not a lot of cover.

He'd glow at night given thermal cams.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #133)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:19 PM

134. You don't really know the desert do you?

There is plenty of cover. California is not Texas.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #134)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:24 PM

137. Plenty of cover in the Mojave?

https://www.google.com/search?q=mojave+desert&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=R84aUe_RMYWc9QS97IDABQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=974&bih=452&safe=active

Also, the desert cools way down at night, especially in winter (at least it does in every other desert I've ever heard of). A 250 pound biped will glow like a torch with thermal cameras out there.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #137)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:28 PM

142. It's a big place with varying terrain and mini-climates. It's no colder there than in

the mountains. Didn't you see the snow up in Big Bear? Also, if you every watched a Western, most of them were filmed in the Mojave. Remember all those canyons and ravines that the outlaws hid out in? I personally would just head to Palmdale though. There was a hugh mortgage crisis and a lot of abandoned track homes, neighborhoods full of them and close to places to shop or burglarize depending on whether he has money. A really stealthy person could live there for years.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #142)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:30 PM

143. The guy is probably carrying a small arsenal with him.

Hard to avoid detection like that.

Plus, food and water.

This guy ain't the elite special forces bad-ass he thinks he is.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #143)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:31 PM

144. True. He didn't think this through and he's apparently not clever enough

to disappear in plain sight.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #144)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:34 PM

147. He's not a career criminal used to hiding from the law.

And he's not an outdoorsy type that's used to living off the land.

Not a very well thought out scheme indeed.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #147)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:38 PM

150. I'm not a career criminal either but I would have thought about it better if

I decided to go off the rails. I am an outdoorsy type who goes out into the wood for weeks at a time or used when I was younger. Those are not the mountains I would hide in if I wanted to hide in mountains. Also, there are campsites in the desert and in the Sierras that hardly anybody goes to because the facilities might not be wonderful or there are too many mosquitos, stuff like that. He could camp close to one of them, because usually there is water if not anything else, and he probably would not see anyone for weeks especially in the winter.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #126)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:13 PM

130. I'm wondering what motivated him to run during the daylight today.

I wonder if he's delirious from lack of sleep?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #130)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:22 PM

136. Bears and cougars roam at night up there.

He might be afraid.

On edit: I forgot packs of coyotes too and away from any towns it's really dark if there isn't any moonlight.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #130)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:25 PM

139. He certainly didn't plan his escape well

Last edited Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:25 PM - Edit history (1)

especially when you consider that he's had five years to work at it.


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #139)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:28 PM

141. Can't disagree with that.

I would add that Bear Valley is not the place for an African-American to hide out.

It's not very expensive to live here... no more expensive than down the hill so I don't know why that is.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #130)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:26 PM

140. from what they said earlier

he had done a home invasion and had a couple tied up. one got away today and called the police (that's when the initial gunfight with the fish and game official happened.) then he stole their truck and the truck is the one they keep showing stuck in the gully and then he broke into this cabin he is currently in.

thats my understanding - in a nutshell.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:11 PM

127. He's currently barricaded in a cabin. It's not clear if he has hostages at this time,

but he did take a couple hostage a couple days ago. Doesn't seem like he has any hostages right now, but I could be wrong.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:17 PM

132. The San Bernardino SWAT van is headed up the mountain from Mentone. n/t

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:21 PM

135. Or Sasquatch

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #135)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:24 PM

138. We don't call him that.

He's Big Jim to us; he's real, smells bad, and eats from the trashcans on the north side of the lake.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:33 PM

145. State of the Union address or this breaking story

if this is still going on I bet more people will be watching this.

Or is this just a big story here in California?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:33 PM

146. one of the two deputies shot today has now died, per KNX 1070 news, oh no :/ nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #146)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:36 PM

148. Damn. I thought I heard earlier they were both in stable condition.

That's terrible.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #148)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:37 PM

149. yes very terrible, death toll due to Dorner up to 4 now nt

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:43 PM

151. I Live In Crestline

For those that are not familiar with the San Bernardino Mountains, Crestline is the first town you come to coming up the hill from San Bernardino. Even though we have two towns between us (Lake Arrowhead and Big Bear), we are taking precautions - doors locked, garage closed, etc. It is a different atmosphere than I have even seen up here. People are very nervous. It doesn't surprise me or my wife that Doner would end up in the mountains. It is the perfect hiding place....empty vacation cabins, remote....

We are hunkered down until this passes.

-Paige

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Response to WiffenPoof (Reply #151)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:47 PM

152. Take care.

Have you seen the backup on the 38 going down to Mentone? It's MILES long. I heard they've evacuated Angelus Oaks, Forest Falls, and all the rest.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #152)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:49 PM

153. Yep...

Some of the roads I travel on in my Jeep all the time.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:54 PM

154. Uh oh, they're talking about blood spots and trash bags on the scanner

Theyr'e going to do some kind of burn?


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #154)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:56 PM

156. I thought they said they were going ahead with the 'plan with the bird' but I might have mistaken

for 'burn'.

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #156)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:59 PM

157. I heard twice about an hour ago someone yelling

'burn that f'ing house down'.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #157)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:01 PM

158. Others heard 'burn' too so I must have been mistaken. eom

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #158)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:17 PM

164. I just distinctly heard the word fire

Fire in the front, he might come out the back. THIS IS IT!!!


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #164)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:19 PM

168. yes. cabin on fire now. engulfed.

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #158)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:19 PM

167. Just heard the cabin is engulfed in flame.

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #154)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:18 PM

165. Cabin on fire watch for him to go out the back. One side fully engulfed in fire.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:02 PM

160. He's very close to friends of our who live up there

They have been hunkered in their place..locked in afraid to leave..

They will be very glad when this is over..

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:04 PM

161. oh wow, i forgot you are right there

eom

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:06 PM

163. just heard interview with friend of man whose truck was carjacked by, possibly, Dorner

This was on KCAL TV. He jumped out of the bushes according to the friend of this man.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:18 PM

166. Something's on fire

"The front is fully engulfed." It's showtime!

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #166)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:19 PM

169. Yep, heard it on the SB Sheriff's scanner...

Lots of black smoke, cabin is on fire. Officers haven't moved in.

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Response to bayareamike (Reply #169)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:22 PM

172. All units stand by

This reception ought to be more clear, dammit!


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #166)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:20 PM

170. Cue the "He was martyred!" claims. n/t

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #170)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:43 PM

183. Of course "Waco" is trending on Twitter

Dumb, dumb conspiracy theorists.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:22 PM

171. Live video on CNN: black smoke arising

SWAT teams have moved in, scanners confirm this. Shot fired from inside residence.

Speculation: suicide?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:23 PM

173. "ammo exploding inside" from scanner nt

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:24 PM

174. San Bernardino County Sheriff reporting only one Deputy has died and other being treated. n/t

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:32 PM

175. Now they're saying he may have escaped!

Could it be possible that all the sudden the on-scene commanders think if he may be outside the cabin somewhere, they lit it on fire so they know NOW whether or not he's in there?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #175)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:34 PM

176. was it ever positively confirmed that he was in there to begin with?

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #176)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:36 PM

179. Not that I'm aware of, no. n/t

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #176)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:02 PM

188. somone in there was firing at them

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #175)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:35 PM

178. How could he have escaped?

I heard this reported to, but...how? Didn't they have the cabin completely surrounded? WTF?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:35 PM

177. no firetrucks?

they let that cabin burn on purpose...

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Response to mshasta (Reply #177)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:37 PM

180. They wouldn't let firefighters within shooting distance of that cabin if they thought he was in it.

EMTs either.

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Response to mshasta (Reply #177)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:37 PM

181. Might've been too dangerous for firefighters to move in. Precaution. Wouldn't

have been the first time firefighters/non police EMS have been shot. That guy who ambushed those firefighters a few months back comes to mind...

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Response to mshasta (Reply #177)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:39 PM

182. Well, they SET the fire, didn't they?

And this guy IS an ex-cop. Who knows more about AVOIDING caught by the cops?


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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:56 PM

184. I believe this is a picture of the burning cabin.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:00 PM

185. They just asked if how far the burning building is

from propane tanks!


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #185)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:01 PM

186. I thought I heard 70 yards nt

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:02 PM

187. might be gas in gas pipeline from residence, fire burning well according to them nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #187)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:52 PM

193. I believe all the cabins in that area have propane tanks. No underground gas lines. n/t

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:03 PM

189. putting together 10 man team to clear the garage nt

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:21 PM

190. according to SBSD spokeswoman, 2nd deputy who was shot is expected to live, per KTLA TV nt

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:42 PM

191. What's all this talk about looking for silver or white (Ford) Exhibition?

DID he escape?

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #191)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:48 PM

192. It won't be long before we find out methinks. I hope the two maids who found him get the reward.

Apparently they were there to clean the place he was in and he tied them up with zipties, stole their car, got in an accident, then carjacked the truck they kept showing in the ditch by the cabin that burned.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:09 PM

194. I just heard the Deputy killed was from Yucaipa, and the one in surgery is from Big Bear.

No names.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:11 PM

195. Just heard something about "releasing the lockdown"

the beginning of an "all clear?"

Anonymous caller says there were escape routes from the basement, collaborated by previous caller


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #195)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:13 PM

196. Where are you listening? I got kicked off the scanner because there was too much

traffic I believe.

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #198)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:19 PM

199. Page won't open. I think the site may be blocking any more traffic...nt

Would you mind keeping me posted if anything new comes to light? Thanks.

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #195)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:14 PM

197. I just got this email from an EMT friend.

1)Tactical teams tore off the front of the building with heavy equipment. The suspect was seen inside.

2)Green smoke then began emitting from cabin, probably smoke or diversion device set by the suspect.

3)Tactical teams fired in device and a fire started shortly thereafter. Not saying that was the cause.

4)Just after fire started, one shot was heard from INSIDE the location.

5)Location, which includes a basement, burned to the ground. They waited until structure collapsed into basement.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #197)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:43 PM

200. So why hasn't anything been announced?

Waiting for the SOTU speech to end?


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Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:48 PM

201. I stand corrected. At 6:51 the local community website says body pulled from cabin and ID'd

They're saying it's Dorner.

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