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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 07:25 PM Feb 2013

The problem runs a lot deeper than Ted Nugent

The problem runs a lot deeper than Ted Nugent

Posted by Greg Sargent

Lots of chatter about the news that GOP Rep. Steve Stockman, who threatened Obama with impeachment over guns, has invited Ted Nugent to the State of the Union address. Nugent has accepted:

“I am excited to have a patriot like Ted Nugent joining me in the House Chamber to hear from President Obama,” Stockman said in a press release. “After the Address I’m sure Ted will have plenty to say.”

That’s a good bet; apparently Stockman is encouraging reporters to interview Nugent after the speech. Nugent, of course, is best known for making this claim, which was investigated by the Secret Service:

“If Barack Obama becomes the president in November again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year,” Nugent said, according to a video that the NRA posted on YouTube. “If you can’t go home and get everybody in your lives to clean house in this vile, evil, America-hating administration, I don’t even know what you’re made out of.”

That’s bad, but if I were the GOP leadership, the prospect of further comments from Nugent after the speech would have me a bit worried. After all, there’s little doubt that reporters will seek him out, and there’s really no telling what Nugent will say. The GOP leadership has not commented on the news.

But really, this episode is significant for reasons that go well beyond Nugent. The key actor here who matters is Steve Stockman. The problem lies in all the over-the-top stuff GOP lawmakers say regularly that isn’t quite crazy enough to earn widespread condemnation, as Nugent’s quotes have, but are still whacked out enough to encourage an atmosphere that helps keep millions of GOP base voters sealed off from reality. The problem is the perpetual winking and nodding to The Crazy that is deemed marginally acceptable – the hints about creeping socialism, the claim that modest Obama executive actions amount to tyranny, the suggestions that Obama’s values are vaguely un-American and that Obama is transforming the country and the economy into something no longer recognizably American, and so on — more so than the glaringly awful stuff that gets the media refs to throw their flags.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/02/11/the-problem-runs-a-lot-deeper-than-ted-nugent/

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The problem runs a lot deeper than Ted Nugent (Original Post) ProSense Feb 2013 OP
As a veteran, I FUME to see the words Ted Nugent and Patriot, joined Siwsan Feb 2013 #1
maybe Nugie will give Stockman a souvenir turd rurallib Feb 2013 #2
Some of the comments on that link are, well... DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #3
Hat tip to Greg Sargent! sheshe2 Feb 2013 #4
The SS needs to inform Mr. Nugent he is not welcome....End of message to him..n/t monmouth3 Feb 2013 #5
+1 handmade34 Feb 2013 #6
Ted Nugent is the Milli Vanilli of patriotism. He's to patriotism what Lean Cuisine is to fine dining. Initech Feb 2013 #7
Disagree. Moosepoop Feb 2013 #10
There's always that! Initech Feb 2013 #11
On the bright side Cirque du So-What Feb 2013 #8
The president has nothing to fear from anything Ted Nugent ... surrealAmerican Feb 2013 #9
“Obama, he’s a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun." Hissyspit Feb 2013 #12
there is something really wrong here Skittles Feb 2013 #13
Nugent is trying so hard...... dawnie51 Feb 2013 #14
noogie kardonb Feb 2013 #15
I hope Ted attends. edbermac Feb 2013 #16
Eww, what if he had a cavity search at his draft exam? alp227 Feb 2013 #17
It would be funny They_Live Feb 2013 #18
Why would he even want to attend? ThomThom Feb 2013 #19
I await a Nugent outburst ala Joe Wilson SCVDem Feb 2013 #20
No. Hard Assets Feb 2013 #22
The GOP is determined to turn the SOTU into a circus. A GOP reg, a bagger and this freak. freshwest Feb 2013 #21
I would send a message to the Rethug leadership SCVDem Feb 2013 #23

Siwsan

(26,290 posts)
1. As a veteran, I FUME to see the words Ted Nugent and Patriot, joined
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 07:37 PM
Feb 2013

in the same sentence. I hope there is a massive backlash against this congressman.

I need a drink!!

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
2. maybe Nugie will give Stockman a souvenir turd
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 07:43 PM
Feb 2013

as a reminder of who he (stockman) is really dealing with.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
3. Some of the comments on that link are, well...
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 07:43 PM
Feb 2013

well...

I dunno.

I am amazed that some of those folks are actually able to read ('literate' is giving them too much credit).

sheshe2

(83,898 posts)
4. Hat tip to Greg Sargent!
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 07:50 PM
Feb 2013

He hit the nail on the head.

Steve Stockman, and his ilk, are the crux of the problem. They want to dumb down their base, while at the same time, whip them into a passionate frenzy. The GOP wants to keep them so deaf and blind, they will never see the reality, or the truth of who is really hurting them.

Thanks to you, ProSense, for your OP.

Initech

(100,102 posts)
7. Ted Nugent is the Milli Vanilli of patriotism. He's to patriotism what Lean Cuisine is to fine dining.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:21 PM
Feb 2013

Cirque du So-What

(25,978 posts)
8. On the bright side
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:25 PM
Feb 2013

perhaps SS agents will approach the scatological pedophile with a couple of questions, Nooge will run his mouth, and that will trigger an inpromptu full-cavity search. Now THAT's must-see TeeVee

surrealAmerican

(11,364 posts)
9. The president has nothing to fear from anything Ted Nugent ...
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:27 PM
Feb 2013

... might say, he (or rather the secret service) needs to be concerned about what Nugent might do.


Nugent speaking only makes the right look stupid.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
13. there is something really wrong here
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:59 PM
Feb 2013

how can a guy who shit his pants to avoid military service and threatened the life of an American president be in ANY WAY considered a "patriot"? Conservatives are going COMPLETELY over the bend.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
14. Nugent is trying so hard......
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:13 PM
Feb 2013
to be relevant. I worry about what kind of disturbance and disrespect he will create. Rational people should never forget that this piece of shit rep., Stockman, has made this whole scene possible. He should be ridiculed and driven from office as the embarrassment he is.
 

kardonb

(777 posts)
15. noogie
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:55 PM
Feb 2013

he is the new SP . He'll day anything to get in the news . The problem with him is he is so unhinged , he might get violent and dangerous . Prime subject for a mental evaluation , ASAP .

They_Live

(3,240 posts)
18. It would be funny
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:05 PM
Feb 2013

if they called him on his poopie pants tactic as false and pressed him into Military Service on the spot.

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
19. Why would he even want to attend?
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:18 PM
Feb 2013

hope he doesn't cause a disturbance
maybe they won't even let him in after threatening the Pres.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
20. I await a Nugent outburst ala Joe Wilson
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:21 PM
Feb 2013

The next thing I want to hear is: Sargeant at Arms! Remove that disruption!

 

Hard Assets

(274 posts)
22. No.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:53 PM
Feb 2013

Seargeant at arms! Cavity search the Nooge, and remove all organs and inspect them thoroughly before he's cleared.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
21. The GOP is determined to turn the SOTU into a circus. A GOP reg, a bagger and this freak.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:38 PM
Feb 2013

They've loaded the deck, three cranksters against the POTUS. I was looking forward to check out this SOTU speech. Now it's just another disgrace by the same posse.

No wonder Obama said looking over the crowd last month 'This is the last time.' If you tried to pay him a hundred trillion dollars and all the gold in the world, it would not be worth putting up with this insane asylum another term even if possible.



http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=8808

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
23. I would send a message to the Rethug leadership
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:37 PM
Feb 2013

that any outbursts will be met the same as Code Pink was at last weeks confirmation hearing.

Clear the hall!

Decorum WILL be observed! Or else!

I would lay any outbursts at the feet of Boehner and McConnell publically.

Tell the world they have no control of their party!

Proceed Mr President.

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