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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Sandy Hook choir was gross emotional negligence by the kids parents.....
and no political agenda or attempt to highlight an issue is a valid excuse.
We are better than this.
JI7
(89,150 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)...any use or public display, exploitation, performance, march, song, poem, etc., beyond just being allowed to be a kid again, is somehow abusive or exploitative.
But, as I wrote, I didn't see anything.
JI7
(89,150 posts)for many in the United States.
like performing at a presidential inauguration. i wonder if they think the kids in the parade there were being exploited.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)a great experience, no doubt, but at what expense?
"I got to be at an important event... because I got to be at a horrific event.:
PTSD.... What helps, what hurts?
JI7
(89,150 posts)for the lives lost at their school and for those who knew them.
while the inauguration would be more of a happy moment.
but it's not like they are being put out there to sell some sandy hook memorabilia .
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)nt
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)I don't need this shit at this time of night.
GodlessBiker
(6,314 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It may have been a healing moment in fact.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)You'll probably lose this post, but I'm with you all the way.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)has no explanation and no substance.
in other words, you posted total bullshit and you are saying everyone is stupid for not agreeing with you, when half of us don't even know what the hell you are talking about.
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)I'm not saying anything other than what I said, but you seem to be hearing a lot. *shrug*
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)the idea is to communicate and when nobody knows what you're talking about and they're getting mad, you're just playing games with us.
and the logical explanation for that is that you don't like anybody here.
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)how about cars? Everyone loves a red sports car!
krawhitham
(4,634 posts)Paladin
(28,173 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)pathetic remark.
If it hit a nerve, good.
justabob
(3,069 posts)it was a really great and exciting thing for those kids to participate in the festivities of one of the biggest sporting events of the year.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)performance. I watched about five minutes of Beyonce and left the game to husband and instead have been surfing the net.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)of what it was they were standing in the middle of...the fifty yard line of a Super Bowl.
justabob
(3,069 posts)They may not "get" the championship and what it means for the teams, and the advertisers, or gamblers, but certainly old enough to realize it is a big deal, and that not many kids get to do stuff like that. Maybe the others in this thread that said it was making the kids relive the trauma of the day are right, I don't know, but I don't think the Sandy Hook kids were any more exploited than the Joplin Mo Little League kids that got to participate in the World Series events after their town was ravaged by tornadoes a few years ago.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)It is still pretty soon after the tragedy. If they wanted to do something for the kids it would have been nicer to let them attend the game as just kids and not have them perform.A special treat for them and their families.
Instead it seems it would be a reminder of the incident dredged up again esp if they are just beginning to heal. I just don't know.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Yeah whatever reloaded I'm sure you have no political agenda either. You make me
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)and I think you are too.
It was a reminder, that's all. Not an exploitation or anything like that. That's what got me at first glance, that someone was using someone here but no, I don't think so. It was a legitimate tribute to the kids and the teachers that died and it was a very much needed reminder to keep on plugging away at gun laws and violence.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)^^^^^
MADem
(135,425 posts)Trip to New Orleans with your folks, sing before a national audience, meet a very famous singer, take in the Super Bowl...it sounds like a nice opportunity to bond, have fun, share some excitement, and have a positive experience.
So, yeah... unrec.
nevergiveup
(4,740 posts)And what is the "this"? I have tried really hard to understand this post and I am lost.
lynne
(3,118 posts)- however my reason is a bit different. These children have been through a horrific time and nothing will restore them to their before the massacre innocence. They need to try to get back to some semblance of normalcy and the first step towards that was getting them back to school. Yet - every time they go to an event like this - they are forced to relive it.
Let's face it, they wouldn't have been there had it not been for the massacre. Each and every time they participate, it dredges it up again for them. It's like ripping off a scab over and over and I fear that we are extending their misery instead of allowing them to heal.
I felt sad that they were there, sad not only for what occurred but for us putting them through it once again.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Each and every time they participate, it dredges it up again for them. It's like ripping off a scab over and over and I fear that we are extending their misery instead of allowing them to heal.
I felt sad that they were there, sad not only for what occurred but for us putting them through it once again.
Here's the reality; the picture speaks volumes:
treestar
(82,383 posts)That is what gives me pause about the whole thing.
I could not quite articulate it, but you did.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Certainly it's a way to get them out, and to feel alive, and show them there is more to the world and the future than their worst nightmares.
goclark
(30,404 posts)I have been an Educator for a number of years.
I thought the children were lovely.
In no way did they seem sad or upset.
In my view, they will have fond memories of the experience and I could feel the love from the audience as I watched the performance.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)wickerwoman
(5,662 posts)of having to sing "We are the World" in assembly after the Berlin Wall fell.
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)...who thought the performance by the Sandy Hook kids was grotesque. The message is, "See. They're fine. They are getting on with their lives. They love their country and they just love singing patriotic songs."
They are not fine. Even though blessed with the resilience of children, they will not be fine for a long, long time. Their parents are not fine. The murdered children will never be fine. Their parents will never be fine.
We have become entirely too smooth at putting these kind of murders behind us. We should suffer with those who suffer so that we might actually do something about it, not be converting tragedies into warm, fuzzy inspirational spectacles.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)We have no idea if they are "fine" or not.
We have no idea if the excitement and adventure of doing this let them forget about "their troubles" for a while.
On the other hand, their parents might have a fucking clue about their own children, and they decided to go on this trip.
Yes, so we clearly need to shove away any remembrance of those murders away, since that would be evil exploitation.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....to sing at halftime during the Super Bowl.
Yeah, that makes sense. Try again.
patrice
(47,992 posts)do, all without the respect of having a person to person conversation with even one of them.
It's possible to characterize your OP as abuse of the children and what happened to them, using them to aggrandize whatever it is that you think of yourself as whatever armchair psychiatrist. Maybe it's not that, but it is at least interesting that you don't appear to be aware of the possibility that OP can be perceived that way.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Whatever.
CitizenPatriot
(3,783 posts)it's this kind of thinking that somehow makes it bad to remind people of an awful tragedy. That kind of thinking is what keeps anything from changing. But maybe that is the point of your objection.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)That statement from the Sandy Hook elementary school choir says it all for me.
Those twenty six kids opted to sing their little hearts out in beautiful tribute to their lost classmates and teachers...they brought their poignant reminder onto the grandest most-watched stage that this country has to offer and delivered a message of strength, hope, and peace...quiet simple honor in the midst of a wild time of revelry and shameless festivities celebrating an all-American sport.
I was floored by their performance...it is the only thing I cared about watching on this big stupid super football Sunday.
I choose to sing right along with those children.
Healing.
NYC Liberal
(20,132 posts)RudynJack
(1,044 posts)I'll make a note to avoid DU next Superbowl. It brings out the crazy.
malaise
(267,455 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)In other words, how were they/could they be harmed? Do you think they were forced against their will to do this? I suspect it was just a cool exciting thing for the kids just as it would be for the vast majority of children. And how do you know this was in the service of a political agenda? Clue: You don't.
malaise
(267,455 posts)Fox yesterday.
Ah well!!!
Justice
(7,182 posts)I thought it was a beautiful moment.
I also think having Jennifer Hudson sing with them was beautiful. She knows their pain.
I saw strength and I saw survivors standing them singing. Gave me chills.
ananda
(28,758 posts).. I can't believe they're letting themselves be exploited like this.
But there you are. We are a celebrity crazy country.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Some things are really better left unsaid.
JPZenger
(6,819 posts)Javaman
(62,394 posts)you tried but failed to attain your few minutes of internet fame.
Paladin
(28,173 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,053 posts)Do we need to bury our heads in the sand about a national tragedy?
Or God forbid, do something nice for a group of kids who've just been through a horrific traumatizing event?
Every single student and teacher in that school, minus the 26 who didn't make it out alive, were forced to live through an event that felt truly like a nightmare, except it was 100% real. Give the kids a break, why don't you?