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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:15 PM Feb 2013

Ed Koch Obit: What is this mysterious reference to Cuomo Sr. in middle paragraph?

>>To the rumors about his sexuality, his standard answer was that it was no one’s business but his own. Placards sprouted in the 1977 mayoral campaign saying, “Vote for Cuomo, Not the Homo.” Mr. Koch did not respond at the time, but 12 years later, in his book “His Eminence and Hizzoner,” he recalled, “When I first saw those posters, I cringed, and I wondered how I would be able to bear it.”

Although Mr. Cuomo always disclaimed responsibility for the posters, Mr. Koch never forgave him, as he made clear with a pointedly disparaging reference to Mr. Cuomo in a recorded interview with The Times that was not to be made public until Mr. Koch’s death.

Asked on a WMCA radio show in 1989 about his sexuality, Mr. Koch said that he was heterosexual. “I happen to believe that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality,” he said. “It’s whatever God made you. It happens that I’m heterosexual, but I don’t care about that. I do care about protecting the rights of 10 percent of our population who are homosexual and who don’t have the ability to protect their rights.”>>>>

No other mention of it in the rest of the obit... that I can find, anyway.

Most peculiar: "...not to be made public until Mr. Koch's death."

Well....... ?

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Ed Koch Obit: What is this mysterious reference to Cuomo Sr. in middle paragraph? (Original Post) Smarmie Doofus Feb 2013 OP
Mario and Andrew Cuomo are directly responsible for doing nothing to stop the smear graham4anything Feb 2013 #1
So basically he confirmed that the Cuomo campaign was behind the homophobic smear... Smarmie Doofus Feb 2013 #5
Video of interview containing Cuomo reference here: elleng Feb 2013 #2
Thanks. n/t Smarmie Doofus Feb 2013 #4
In the interview that was linked to yesterday, it seems Koch was running against Cuomo Sr. djean111 Feb 2013 #3
Ed Koch always held a grudge against Mario and Andrew Cuomo for 1977 campaign signs graham4anything Feb 2013 #6
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
1. Mario and Andrew Cuomo are directly responsible for doing nothing to stop the smear
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:21 PM
Feb 2013

there is a video/audio/written transcript released by the NY Times which famous people
do, and is essentially a last word that was aired on NY radio yesterday.

There is a good 10 minutes on this.

It is fascinating.

Ed Koch finally got his revenge on Mario and Andrew.
And this takes Andrew out from ever thinking of higher elected office.

I myself never forgave either of the two for this.

Love or Hate Ed Koch politics (and I was on the side of Rev. Al Sharpton in stating Koch started a race war in the 1980s, (and living in Brooklyn at the time too),
I also saw in the this specific campaign(late 70s)(as I lived in Queens that year), the posters
that indeed said
Vote for Cuomo not the Homo all through areas of Queens.

It was disgusting and to think mario was running to the left of Ed.

Mario never appologized and Ed never forgave (though as he said, he did not show in public his disapproval of Mario as the two needed to work together for the city).

In dying, Ed Koch evened the score.
(and made public what some tried to say never happened.)

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
5. So basically he confirmed that the Cuomo campaign was behind the homophobic smear...
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 08:01 PM
Feb 2013

... and specifically tied *ANDREW* to it for the first time. ( Andrew, for non NYers, was dad's campaign manager and also professed ignorance.)

That's been in print before but never attributed to Koch directly.


>>>And this takes Andrew out from ever thinking of higher elected office. >>>>>

King of sleaze. From your lips......

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. In the interview that was linked to yesterday, it seems Koch was running against Cuomo Sr.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:22 PM
Feb 2013

and people from Cuomo's campaign were going around telling people to "vote for Cuomo, not the homo". Koch called Cuomo and said stop that, Cuomo said he had nothing to do with it or whatever, and the slogan continued.
Koch said he never bothered to go on record about his sexuality, people could believe what they want, but it was a crappy way to campaign.
At least that is what I got from the interview, which evidently was not to be shown until after Koch's death.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
6. Ed Koch always held a grudge against Mario and Andrew Cuomo for 1977 campaign signs
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 08:14 PM
Feb 2013

at the very least, Koch said they did nothing to stop it and professed ignorance.
(in things like this there is never a way to prove who actually put the plan into place, but
by not doing anything, it remained in place througout the remainder of the election.

and it would be typical of Mario not getting his hands dirty, but letting his son and others do the dirty work. imho

here is article about it-
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/koch-gay-legacy-article-1.1252984


Ed Koch, who was always private about his sex life, took a shot at former rival Mario Cuomo over ‘Homo’ ads in an interview released after his death
Koch said he always held a grudge against Mario and Andrew Cuomo for 1977 campaign signs that branded him as being gay

During a nasty 1977 Democratic mayoral primary campaign between Koch and Mario Cuomo, political signs appeared in Queens that read: “Vote for Cuomo, Not the Homo.”

Following Koch’s death in Manhattan early Friday, the New York Times released a 2007 interview during which Koch said he never truly forgave Cuomo, or his son Andrew, now New York’s governor, for the dirty political trick.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/koch-gay-legacy-article-1.1252984#ixzz2Jn3qlgSr

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/koch-gay-legacy-article-1.1252984#ixzz2Jn3jASJu

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