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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:52 PM Jan 2012

Mitch Daniels hands the president a win

Mitch Daniels hands the president a win
Daniels: "The late Steve Jobs — what a fitting name he had — created more of them than all those stimulus dollars the president borrowed and blew."


It would be nice if Republicans -- candidates and the rest -- could get their facts straight. Mitch Daniels committed a serious blooper during his response to the State of the Union speech. In doing so, he killed the Republicans' effort to hang Obama with the auto industry bailout.

Paul Krugman picks up on the blooper.

Mr. Daniels tried to wrap his party in the mantle of the late Steve Jobs, whom he portrayed as a great job creator — which is one thing that Jobs definitely wasn’t. And if we ask why Apple has created so few American jobs, we get an insight into what is wrong with the ideology dominating much of our politics. ...Paul Krugman, NYT

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Although Apple is now America’s biggest U.S. corporation as measured by market value, it employs only 43,000 people in the United States, a tenth as many as General Motors employed when it was the largest American firm.

Apple does, however, indirectly employ around 700,000 people in its various suppliers. Unfortunately, almost none of those people are in America.
...Paul Krugman, NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/opinion/krugman-jobs-jobs-and-cars.html?_r=1&hp


http://prairieweather.typepad.com/big_blue_stem/2012/01/mitch-daniels-hands-the-president-a-win.html



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Mitch Daniels hands the president a win (Original Post) kpete Jan 2012 OP
The wooden plank BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #1
Corporations are people, my friend. Apple is good, american people. n/t Ed Suspicious Jan 2012 #2
and there's not a damned thing the Republicans (like Mitch) are going to do Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #3
Are you thinking tariffs on goods made by "American" companies which GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #4
I believe in offering some carrots Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #5
Yes and yes. Higher taxes with write offs for wages paid to American workers TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #6
npr was even running with this bigtree Jan 2012 #7

BumRushDaShow

(128,908 posts)
1. The wooden plank
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:56 PM
Jan 2012

is just parroting their official party position - "outsource overseas" = good for the American "corporations/people".

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
3. and there's not a damned thing the Republicans (like Mitch) are going to do
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jan 2012

to try to bring those jobs back here either. I will eat my underwear if they ever allow any incentives (or penalties) to be approved for companies to keep their work here in the US.

Companies *MAY* voluntarily decide to bring work back here but ONLY once we've hit "third nation" status in terms of working conditions and lack of regulations and watchdogs.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
4. Are you thinking tariffs on goods made by "American" companies which
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jan 2012

maintain most of their manufacturing outside of the country, or whose headquarters are out of the country and therefore escape taxation by us? And what can we do about service industries, like tech support based outside of America?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
5. I believe in offering some carrots
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:04 AM
Jan 2012

for companies to come back here. I don't know how far I would go to penalize companies though IMHO we just shouldnt subsidize companies as much as we seem to be doing right now either and there should be penalties when companies get subsidies for setting up shop in a particular area and failing to deliver a certain number of jobs and/or suddenly decide to pack up and head across the border. If they do stuff like that, they should have to repay some or all of those subsidies that they got for showing up and then perhaps that money could be used to help the newly unemployed workers transition to new jobs. Just some thoughts.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
6. Yes and yes. Higher taxes with write offs for wages paid to American workers
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 10:35 AM
Jan 2012

Which also should provide a little upward pressure on most wages.

If you heave serious rates and properly design the code the accountants will herd them into the correct direction.

Any industry that imports goods also has an extra lever; we can let the pirates at them or even encourage them too. You know use the world's police thing to our advantage.

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