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Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:06 AM

 

I'm the bigot that has to shut my mouth when they talk about "Martin Luther Coon" day

I'm a transplanted Yankees living in the rural south after living in a large metro areas and I'm sick of people defending the rural south or saying I'm a bigot for telling the truth about the rural south. Yes, they brag about using Obama and Hillary using outlines for target shooting. The local rock band changes the lyrics to a Doors to song to talking about killing queers. They brag about how they're never going travel outside the United States. They say Obama isn't THEIR president. One can't be a businessman and tell anyone you're a Democrat. Many of my neighbors aren't like this but most are, most aren't much different than the Taliban, but I'm the bigot according to many here on DU (mostly the RBKA fake Democrat crowd).

I guess I'm a "citidiot".

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Reply I'm the bigot that has to shut my mouth when they talk about "Martin Luther Coon" day (Original post)
MightyMopar Jan 2013 OP
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Electric Monk Jan 2013 #6
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Cha Jan 2013 #22
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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:21 AM

1. Reactionary conservatives are usually fucking hypocrites. What else is really new?

But just remember, there's always safe havens, including right here on DU.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:27 AM

2. What is an "RBKA fake Democrat" ???

ON EDIT-is this a reference to the right to keep and bear arms? RBKA or RKBA, I get the typo, but not the connection to bigotry that you implied in your post

And you say there are many "fake dems" here at DU?

Please explain.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:11 AM

16. your list

needs to be a lot longer

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:44 AM

22. So jody finally bit the dust.. been here since 2001 with

26. 000 something posts.

THanks Electric

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Response to demwing (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:12 AM

25. Republican trolls coming to DU with their gun fetish and pretending to be Dems

 

You know?

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:29 AM

3. Can't you get out of there? It sounds terrible! nt

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Response to Walk away (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:45 AM

23. It sounds like

hell.

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Response to Cha (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:45 AM

31. It sounds like

Nothing I've ever see or heard, after decades in the rural South. And, I'm actually from here.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #31)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:18 AM

43. How could you not?

I lived in the south for 25 years, and routinely ran into it. It thinned out in the college educated bunch (I'm an engineer), but it was there. I really noticed it in Appalachia.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #43)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:22 AM

47. Nope, it's like a parody of what I've been around

And, I lived in extreme rural areas of NC, and have NEVER seen or heard the nutty stuff said in this thread. Racism? Of course, the same kind of racism I've heard in rural parts of the North, and from NORTHERN PROFESSIONALS at conferences. Trying to make this region-based is BS, and a case of ignoring what's in one's own backyard.

On Edit: this is my last post in this thread, because I think it is ridiculous and flypaper.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #47)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:28 AM

53. Pointing out hypocrisy is a fair point.

I have run into racism in the north. Rural Maine is Bad about it. I thought you were saying you hadn't heard racism, and I know from personal experience that it exists. I'm sorry, I understood your point incorrectly. I'm not beating down the south - I myself was a southerner once. I may try to assimilate to being a Yankee after all these years, but I'll always talk slower and use Y'all. Somethings die hard.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #31)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:54 AM

65. Wow...

I've returned to an extremely rural part of NW Arkansas (where I spent my formative years) where Democrats are as rare as Ivory-billed woodpeckers. Okay, I'm exaggerating a wee bit. However, I have to be actively anti-racist and anti-homophobic almost every day.

When Obama was campaigning, a local business put a big sign in their window: "Honk if you think Obama is evil."

And, you daren't self-identify as an atheist, or you might get hog-tied and dragged to church.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:32 AM

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:35 AM

5. sweet potato pie

Who said anything about shutting your mouth?

What is the "truth about the rural south"?

When you say things like "most aren't much diffeent than the Taliban" well, yes, that does sound like the statement of a bigot.

Also, when I had my business for seven years in Wisconsin, I didn't go around telling people about my politics. I never figured that that would be good for business. The county was perhaps 60-40 in favor of Republicans, but even if I was a Republican, why would I want to perhaps antagonize 40% of my potential customers?

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:47 AM

8. Almost everybody tells me their politics and predjudices and 99% of the time I keep quiet

 

The truth is that yes, other areas of the nation aren't perfect but the south is worse. The anti-intellectualism is overwhelming.

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Response to MightyMopar (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:56 AM

13. Everyone is not that way

You need to speak up and find some better friends. I could not be around people like that.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:39 AM

28. Sometimes when your a goldfish in a ocean of sharks sometimes it's hard to say anything.

 

Your better off keeping your mouth shut. I'm a yankee living in the south and I find it's better. But I have very few friends besides my husband,son and daughter-in-law and the grandkids. Really that's all I need anyway. That's enough to keep up with. Besides that if I want to speak out I usually come here. Got plenty of DUers here that have a opinion about something.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #28)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:04 AM

35. It's easier to be a liberal in the south if you are already a southerner.

I was pretty out and in the face of the conservatives down there, but they just believed I was an idiot. A Yankee in the south gets written off immediately.

One wonderful aspect of moving to Conn. was to no longer feel under siege all the time.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #35)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:26 AM

52. Well I moved in the south about 20 yrs ago and I think am still an outsider. My

 

mother-in-law moved here from PA. She had something in common with a majority of people here and that is she grew up on a farm. Her mother-in-law didn't like her because she worked and had an opinion. Her mother-in-law didn't have much of an education. In the end her mother-in-law excepted her because when she was ill my mother-in-law was always there to take care of her. People around here respected her because she was a nurse. But she was a tomboy. She loved to fish, hunt, raise cows, had beehives and garden her veggies. She was her own person. She could fix things herself. My father-in-law retired from the military and helped her raise cows and he went hunting, and fishing. So they always had food. She never depended on her husband because when she needed something done she wanted it done. You know how some husbands can be. She ended up having lots of friends. I don't have much in common with the people around here. I mean I am neighborly. You always hear that southerners are really nice. Well maybe it's just here but I sometimes make cakes or even meals for my neighbors and I never hear back with a thank you it was good. I feel if I take the time you can at least call me and tell thanks or even write a thank you card. I make my granddaughter who is 7 yrs old to write thank you cards for gifts she receive. I want her to know the proper thing to do.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #52)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:45 PM

84. May I ask where you live, Southernyankeebellle?

It's not right when people don't bother to thank you for doing something nice like cooking them a meal. I lived for a year in a small town in western Washington state.
I was surprised how rude people were. You always here how small town people are friendly. There it was anything but the case. I'm from Minneapolis, and people aren't friendly here but they are polite. They were not in Walla Walla.

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Response to MightyMopar (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:47 AM

32. lololololol

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:41 AM

7. .

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Response to REP (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:52 AM

9. That made me lol

I hate my chrysler minivan.

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Response to OriginalGeek (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:54 AM

12. After I got my Chrysler T&C.. my neighbor exchanged their Honda for one. nt

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:01 AM

14. I hope y'all have better luck than I've had

Mine is falling apart. Power doors stopped working, Headliner falling down, engine mounts all need replacing, have had AC blower replaced twice, one of the power locks doesn't work any more. While it was still under warranty we had the front struts replaced and I can't remember what else but I know I'll never buy another Chrysler. Mine's a 2003 with 60k miles on it. SHould have lasted better than this.


I one thing back - if I found a 71 Hemi Cuda that I could afford I'd probably buy that.

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Response to OriginalGeek (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:08 AM

15. I had a 2000 300M with 265K miles on it... just tires, brakes and regular servicing.

Good luck finding that Cuda... Mecums sold one for over $350K this week.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:17 AM

19. lol, yeah I watched some of that

Musta missed the Cuda though. When I was in high school my friend had one but he didn't pay anywhere near that. Darn lack of time machines to go back and buy things at yesteryear's prices!!!!

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Response to OriginalGeek (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:18 AM

21. I'd get a few Hemi Superbirds, now selling at over $1.2 Million each. nt

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Response to REP (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:42 AM

29. .....

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #29)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:55 AM

74. I think there is a thread about being a feminist, too.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:53 AM

10. If you are, I guess I am too....

I have been south of the Mason-Dixon line too often. I spent a couple of months in Orlando one week.....and despise Georgia. Georgia was the place that I had a faith healing in a Cracker Barrel washroom. A heimlich would have been more helpful at the time...........and then the woman apparently expected me to pay for something I didn't want in the first place!

That narrow-minded conformity is why I left the country in the beginning.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:53 AM

11. I ran into a southerner who had guns to shoot 'cans'... Africans, Mexicans and Puerto Ricans.

Yes.

He was talking about his guns and made that type of 'joke'.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:13 AM

18. Arent' they just too funny?

Oh, those crazy kidders!

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:12 AM

17. I heard some pretty awful crap when I lived in Georgia. Back then it was

Martin Lucifer King. Times change. You could just barely make out the cross burned in my neighbor's grass.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:17 AM

20. I thought this book sounded interesting



Overview

Dubbed “savagely funny” (The New York Times) and “wickedly entertaining” (San Francisco Chronicle), acclaimed travel writer Chuck Thompson embarks on a controversial road trip to prove that both sides might be better off if the South were to secede once and for all.“He’s a travel writer like Anthony Bourdain is a food writer,” writes The Oregonian about Chuck Thompson. In Better Off Without ’Em, the biggest book of his career, Thompson offers a heavily researched, serious inquiry into national divides that is unabashedly controversial, often uproarious, and always thought-provoking.

By crunching numbers, interviewing experts, and traveling the not-so-former Confederacy, Thompson—an openly disgruntled liberal Northwesterner—makes a compelling case for Southern secession. Along the way, he interacts with possum-hunting conservatives, trailer park lifers, prayer warriors, and other regional trendsetters, showing that the South’s perverse church-driven morality, politics, and personality never have and never will define the region as a fully committed part of the United States. Better Off Without ’Em is a deliberately provocative book whose insight, humor, fierce and fearless politics, and sheer nerve will spark a national debate that is perhaps long overdue.



http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/better-off-without-em-chuck-thompson/1111396353

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #20)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:54 AM

34. Hmm

May add to my reading list.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #20)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:09 PM

81. It was actually very good

One - he uses a LOT of humor!

Two - he highlights the things that we DO have in common - but shows how different the approach is.


And don't think he lets the North East off the hook.


He starts out explaining how the new country of Cascadia would be - and pretty much throws every other region/new country under the bus in the process! If you like Bill Maher's sense of humor -you'll enjoy the book.

Now - with the author being from the North West - I'd love for (and have emailed/encouraged him) to write one - Better Off Without You'se - why New Britain should be Turned Loose As It's Own Country. I can't WAIT to read what he has to write about those of us who like me have spent the majority of their lives in New York/NJ/CT. :lmao:


And most important - at the end - he sits down with the Southern Educational Elite and asks THEM how THEY would feel about secession - and they resoundingly answer "Nope. Not good." And they point out with the high economic growth in some areas of the region - it would actually be bad for the North.


Read this and read The Great Reset: How the Post-Crash Economy Will Change the Way We Live and Work by Richard Florida. Florida's is a warning signal about how we have to come out fighting post 2008 economic disaster . . . add this book in - and you'll appreciate the strengths of the South -and be alarmed about the one weakness - education. Note - Florida shows that not only does the North East have potential to boom again - but so does the South East. Pretty much all of I-95 is important to our economic growth - that means both North and South of the Mason Dixon line that road crosses.

Truly - do NOT judge this book by it's cover.

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Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:17 AM

26. "I don't want to listen to that kind of shit!"

is what I said to my parents when they tried to trot out that particular white suburban cracker witticism. My parents!

Surely you can say that much to the troglodytes you work with.

Otherwise, they think you agree with them.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 05:58 AM

27. Pretty much same experience. I'm tired of listening to these right wing, callous bigots. Of course,


the gungeoneers right here on DU like to call me a bigot because I'm against them walking around in public with a gun or two tucked away. Cracks me up. You want to see bigotry, spend time in the south -- a lot of folks in the south consider bigotry (outright racism, really) a family value.

Just suck it up, confront them when you can, and laugh you ass off at their stupidity when away from the losers.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:44 AM

30. lol The OP and many of the replies are just ridiculous

People need to quit watching so many reality shows and B movies.

The regional broadbrushing allowed on here is ridiculous.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #30)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:21 AM

46. Just because YOU think you haven't heard those things

doesn't mean they don't happen.

Christ on a crutch - when will people start realizing that their own life experiences aren't necessarily true for everyone else?

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #46)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:24 AM

50. .....

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #46)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:30 AM

54. See the OP

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #46)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:49 AM

71. Review your own post.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:53 AM

33. In all honesty your post makes no sense to me. n/t

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:05 AM

36. I'm not quite sure why you had to

compose your post in that way. Was it for attention value (because of the ugliness of the opening sentence)? Did you itemize the comments of your neighbors because you somehow thought that we don't know what racists sound like?

I agree with the above poster. I don't get why you had to post this.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:11 AM

38. Yup

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:05 AM

37. Post where people make first hand observations of life in the South are removed

 

and attacked by the defenders of all things southern on DU.


Seems like many do not like the truth and would rather live in denial about the blatant racism that occurs daily in the south.



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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #37)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:12 AM

40. lololololol

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #37)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:49 AM

62. Yeah, you've got it all figured out after 3 days.

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #37)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:11 AM

68. LMAO!

Seems like many do not like the truth and would rather live in denial about the blatant racism that occurs daily all across the United States. (I fixed it for you).

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:11 AM

39. Reason number 1 I will NEVER live in the South

 

I just couldn't deal. I would end up hanging from a tree somewhere. I'm one of those northeast Blatinos who will not stand to be disrespected by some racist. The few times I have been to the South I see some Black people who still have this "I know my place and won't stir the pot" mentality. Well child...I remember driving to see a relative of mine who lives in Warner Robbins Ga and had it out with a few white men who tried some racist crap with me. No. Other than the fact that I love cold weather and therefore will probably always live somewhere in the northeast, I wouldn't want to live amongst such racism. I don't want to brand the whole South because there is racism in the North, it's just more subtle. Southern racists are more in your face about it. My cousin lived in Ga after the OJ trial and said she would get evil looks from white people while stopped at a light in her car. See I would've been the type to say "what the f*ck are you looking at?"

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Response to Mdterp01 (Reply #39)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:15 AM

41. Some of you really need to quit watching certain movies and TV shows

Some of THE most liberal areas in the whole US are in the South, the state with the strongest populist tradition is Southern, some of the most LGBT-friendly areas, etc,

Some of the most bigoted areas in the entire US are NOT in the South.

Y'all do realize that ANY rural area in ANY state is going to be full of Red voters, right?

Just laughable that this regional bigotry is allowed here, especially since it is often so baseless.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #41)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:22 AM

48. First hand accounts are now baseless?

 

interesting

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #48)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:23 AM

49. uh huh

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #49)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:26 AM

51. So enjoy denial

 

da south is the perfect place for you.

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Response to Mdterp01 (Reply #39)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:20 AM

45. I am White and lived in the south from the 60's to the 90's and I agree with you

 

I saw the way people of color are still treated and I can tell you that they don't take to kindly to whites even defending people of color.

Unless I have to go for work I avoid the place it disgusts me that much.

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #45)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:37 AM

56. Thank you for leaving.

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Response to cordelia (Reply #56)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:41 AM

58. I guess your enjoy daily racism and ignorance, have fun existing there

 

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #58)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:44 AM

60. I think this was uncalled for.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #60)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:46 AM

61. Not really the poster denies first hand accounts of southen racism that happen today

 


Living in a fact free zone is not healthy

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #61)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:49 AM

63. Post #57 would appear to contradict that statement. nt

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #61)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:02 AM

67. I am not denying that racism does not exist in the South.

It exists in the South just like it exists in every region, every state, every city and town.

It's there, it's ugly, and I hate it.

I am just more "enlightened" than those who are so intolerant and small-minded as to hate an entire region because of the actions of some.

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #45)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:15 AM

69. 60's to the 90's

You do realize this is 2013, correct?

And please, don't come back.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:18 AM

42. Well, the OP got what he wanted with this thread

And, I won't bite anymore.

I'll just say this one less thing: Putting "Martin Luther Coon" in a subject header is just... interesting to me.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #42)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:44 AM

59. Yet that is how many refer to MLK Day in the south

 

Must be that pesky truth you seems to hate so much

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #59)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:02 AM

75. It's a DISGUSTING term for a THREAD TITLE HERE. Must be that pesky DECENCY

you seem to hate so much.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #75)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:07 AM

77. Ahh yes sweep it under the rug in the name of decency to save your delicate sensibilities

 

It still does not change the fact that many in America call it by that name.

Shine a big spotlight on it and expose those that do it, it is the only way to end it.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #75)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:19 PM

83. yup

That and the South bashing is just very... interesting. At least we weren't asked this time what race we were.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:20 AM

44. Sounds like you should be reporting lots of those people

to the Secret Service and FBI. I don't hesitate to do so.

https://tips.fbi.gov/

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:34 AM

55. I hear shit like that and I'm in the north.

It's almost like one region doesn't have a monopoly on assholes like you're implying. How odd. Could it be this is just another of your race-grenade threads, like when you demanded to know DU's racial breakdown because you felt it was too white?

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #55)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:39 AM

57. I heard shit like that when I lived in the

West, when I've been in the Pacific Northwest on business/vacation, in NYC and Mass. In Missouri and Minnesota. The shit I heard in California?

It's everywhere.

This is just another South bashing extravaganza.

Intolerance = small minds.

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #55)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:17 AM

70. most of Uhhhhmerica is a racist backwater

 

it isn't exclusive to the south.

once you get out of the urban areas, this country is a vast land of idiocy, hatred, and fear.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:51 AM

64. So what is the point of this OP, ultimately?

"Fuck The South"?

That fits in well with some people's agenda.

Or do you have suggestions for persuading backward rural Southerners to think differently about race and politics?

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Response to klook (Reply #64)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:54 AM

73. i don't really see an 'agenda' in the OP

i have a couple of suggestions-

the trick is being BOTH more open AND closed-minded-

closed to prejudice, basically, and open to the idea that how someone looks doesn't define who they are.

it isn't just the south- i'm from the 'north' and there are bigoted people here,too. i've grown dreadlocks before (i'm white), and i've heard and seen the same things described in the OP. some of the worst bigots i know personally are transplanted canadians.

here is a pic of obama with his mother for starters: (you might notice she is not black)
http://www.salon.com/2011/04/21/barack_obama_ann_dunham_biography/

i think the important thing is to remember that black people and LGBT people are just that, PEOPLE, and if you can see them for who they are and what they go through on a daily basis, you can appreciate them more as human beings.

instead of automatically thinking thief or freak.

i don't mean this to sound judgmental - democrats are not immune to the below- (bay of pigs, vietnam...)

Groupthink
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an incorrect or deviant decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences. Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking

***

What is Groupthink?

Groupthink, a term coined by social psychologist Irving Janis (1972), occurs when a group makes faulty decisions because group pressures lead to a deterioration of “mental efficiency, reality testing, and moral judgment” (p. 9). Groups affected by groupthink ignore alternatives and tend to take irrational actions that dehumanize other groups. A group is especially vulnerable to groupthink when its members are similar in background, when the group is insulated from outside opinions, and when there are no clear rules for decision making
http://www.psysr.org/about/pubs_resources/groupthink%20overview.htm

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Response to klook (Reply #64)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:03 AM

76. The thread title language IS the agenda, get it?

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #76)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:01 PM

80. bingo

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:56 AM

66. I'm from NYC lived here my entire life

I've heard the same statement used here in reference to mlk day. I think some of the most open racism exists here in this city. We like to pretend we are forward thinking in this part of the country but we are fooling ourselves. I will admit I haven't spent much time in the south but it really sounds like some pull their thoughts from stereotypes.

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Response to Arcanetrance (Reply #66)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:26 AM

78. NYC too. I've only heard people be openly racist in two places all these years here

there was a pocket working class neighborhood of whiteness north of mine (featured in Spike Lee's Summer of Sam) where many residents were very open about guarding (with baseball bats) to keep it that way. Scary. The other was a small company I worked for a short time run by Southern DAR types. It was quite disconcerting to hear "professionals" frequently making racist comments. I immediately started looking for other work, and went off on three people the first week. I'm really glad I was in a financial position to take that gamble and not have to keep my mouth shut. I was shocked and horrified. But that was because I hand't heard people talk like that openly in thirty years. Very different experience from rural america, that thirty year gap.
NYC is very integrated, and it's just not generally acceptable here. You'd have to find yourself a racist clique to be open about it. Every single other place I worked, that shit would get you fired immediately.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #78)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:58 AM

79. Sadly that racist clique is half my family

The racism I see goes beyond what is said to what is done. The economic revitalization plans under giulliani and bloomer that targets poor and minority communities and forces them out into worse and worse situations

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Response to Arcanetrance (Reply #79)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:10 PM

82. sorry to hear that, AT. Agree that giulliani years were awful for most of us.

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Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:50 AM

72. Well Your Starter does sound like Penguins Mating!



If you had only picked SharpChevy or FearsomFord why you might have found more luv.

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Response to One_Life_To_Give (Reply #72)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:01 PM

85. More false equivalency, yes all regions have bigotry but in the rural south it's mainstream

 

The first step in fighting it is to acknowledge it and quit saying other parts of the country are just as bad because in general they're not.

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Response to MightyMopar (Reply #85)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:28 AM

86. What say DU





King Penguin vs Chrysler Gear Reduction starter. Sound alike?







Seriously a Mopar Fan who can't take some good natured ribbing about that dang starter.
Have a Six Pack and relax

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