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MightyMopar

(735 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:06 AM Jan 2013

I'm the bigot that has to shut my mouth when they talk about "Martin Luther Coon" day

I'm a transplanted Yankees living in the rural south after living in a large metro areas and I'm sick of people defending the rural south or saying I'm a bigot for telling the truth about the rural south. Yes, they brag about using Obama and Hillary using outlines for target shooting. The local rock band changes the lyrics to a Doors to song to talking about killing queers. They brag about how they're never going travel outside the United States. They say Obama isn't THEIR president. One can't be a businessman and tell anyone you're a Democrat. Many of my neighbors aren't like this but most are, most aren't much different than the Taliban, but I'm the bigot according to many here on DU (mostly the RBKA fake Democrat crowd).

I guess I'm a "citidiot".

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I'm the bigot that has to shut my mouth when they talk about "Martin Luther Coon" day (Original Post) MightyMopar Jan 2013 OP
Reactionary conservatives are usually fucking hypocrites. What else is really new? AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #1
What is an "RBKA fake Democrat" ??? demwing Jan 2013 #2
eg Electric Monk Jan 2013 #6
your list MichaelHarris Jan 2013 #16
So jody finally bit the dust.. been here since 2001 with Cha Jan 2013 #22
Republican trolls coming to DU with their gun fetish and pretending to be Dems Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #25
Can't you get out of there? It sounds terrible! nt Walk away Jan 2013 #3
It sounds like Cha Jan 2013 #23
It sounds like obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #31
How could you not? NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #43
Nope, it's like a parody of what I've been around obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #47
Pointing out hypocrisy is a fair point. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #53
Wow... chervilant Jan 2013 #65
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #4
sweet potato pie hfojvt Jan 2013 #5
Almost everybody tells me their politics and predjudices and 99% of the time I keep quiet MightyMopar Jan 2013 #8
Everyone is not that way BainsBane Jan 2013 #13
Sometimes when your a goldfish in a ocean of sharks sometimes it's hard to say anything. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #28
It's easier to be a liberal in the south if you are already a southerner. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #35
Well I moved in the south about 20 yrs ago and I think am still an outsider. My southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #52
May I ask where you live, Southernyankeebellle? BainsBane Jan 2013 #84
lololololol obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #32
. REP Jan 2013 #7
That made me lol OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #9
After I got my Chrysler T&C.. my neighbor exchanged their Honda for one. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2013 #12
I hope y'all have better luck than I've had OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #14
I had a 2000 300M with 265K miles on it... just tires, brakes and regular servicing. TheBlackAdder Jan 2013 #15
lol, yeah I watched some of that OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #19
I'd get a few Hemi Superbirds, now selling at over $1.2 Million each. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2013 #21
..... obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #29
I think there is a thread about being a feminist, too. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #74
If you are, I guess I am too.... PDJane Jan 2013 #10
I ran into a southerner who had guns to shoot 'cans'... Africans, Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. TheBlackAdder Jan 2013 #11
Arent' they just too funny? Iggo Jan 2013 #18
I heard some pretty awful crap when I lived in Georgia. Back then it was dimbear Jan 2013 #17
I thought this book sounded interesting Douglas Carpenter Jan 2013 #20
Hmm Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #34
It was actually very good JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #24
"I don't want to listen to that kind of shit!" Warpy Jan 2013 #26
Pretty much same experience. I'm tired of listening to these right wing, callous bigots. Of course, Hoyt Jan 2013 #27
lol The OP and many of the replies are just ridiculous obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #30
Just because YOU think you haven't heard those things Zoeisright Jan 2013 #46
..... obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #50
See the OP cordelia Jan 2013 #54
Review your own post. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #71
In all honesty your post makes no sense to me. n/t vaberella Jan 2013 #33
I'm not quite sure why you had to tavernier Jan 2013 #36
Yup obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #38
Post where people make first hand observations of life in the South are removed Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #37
lololololol obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #40
Yeah, you've got it all figured out after 3 days. Union Scribe Jan 2013 #62
LMAO! Sissyk Jan 2013 #68
Reason number 1 I will NEVER live in the South Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #39
Some of you really need to quit watching certain movies and TV shows obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #41
First hand accounts are now baseless? Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #48
uh huh obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #49
So enjoy denial Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #51
I am White and lived in the south from the 60's to the 90's and I agree with you Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #45
Thank you for leaving. cordelia Jan 2013 #56
I guess your enjoy daily racism and ignorance, have fun existing there Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #58
I think this was uncalled for. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #60
Not really the poster denies first hand accounts of southen racism that happen today Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #61
Post #57 would appear to contradict that statement. nt NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #63
I am not denying that racism does not exist in the South. cordelia Jan 2013 #67
60's to the 90's Sissyk Jan 2013 #69
Well, the OP got what he wanted with this thread obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #42
Yet that is how many refer to MLK Day in the south Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #59
It's a DISGUSTING term for a THREAD TITLE HERE. Must be that pesky DECENCY WinkyDink Jan 2013 #75
Ahh yes sweep it under the rug in the name of decency to save your delicate sensibilities Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #77
yup obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #83
Sounds like you should be reporting lots of those people Zoeisright Jan 2013 #44
I hear shit like that and I'm in the north. Union Scribe Jan 2013 #55
I heard shit like that when I lived in the cordelia Jan 2013 #57
most of Uhhhhmerica is a racist backwater datasuspect Jan 2013 #70
So what is the point of this OP, ultimately? klook Jan 2013 #64
i don't really see an 'agenda' in the OP farminator3000 Jan 2013 #73
The thread title language IS the agenda, get it? WinkyDink Jan 2013 #76
bingo obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #80
I'm from NYC lived here my entire life Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #66
NYC too. I've only heard people be openly racist in two places all these years here bettyellen Jan 2013 #78
Sadly that racist clique is half my family Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #79
sorry to hear that, AT. Agree that giulliani years were awful for most of us. bettyellen Jan 2013 #82
Well Your Starter does sound like Penguins Mating! One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #72
More false equivalency, yes all regions have bigotry but in the rural south it's mainstream MightyMopar Jan 2013 #85
What say DU One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #86
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
1. Reactionary conservatives are usually fucking hypocrites. What else is really new?
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:21 AM
Jan 2013

But just remember, there's always safe havens, including right here on DU.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
2. What is an "RBKA fake Democrat" ???
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:27 AM
Jan 2013

ON EDIT-is this a reference to the right to keep and bear arms? RBKA or RKBA, I get the typo, but not the connection to bigotry that you implied in your post

And you say there are many "fake dems" here at DU?

Please explain.

Cha

(297,475 posts)
22. So jody finally bit the dust.. been here since 2001 with
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:44 AM
Jan 2013

26. 000 something posts.

THanks Electric

obamanut2012

(26,094 posts)
31. It sounds like
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jan 2013

Nothing I've ever see or heard, after decades in the rural South. And, I'm actually from here.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
43. How could you not?
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:18 AM
Jan 2013

I lived in the south for 25 years, and routinely ran into it. It thinned out in the college educated bunch (I'm an engineer), but it was there. I really noticed it in Appalachia.

obamanut2012

(26,094 posts)
47. Nope, it's like a parody of what I've been around
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:22 AM
Jan 2013

And, I lived in extreme rural areas of NC, and have NEVER seen or heard the nutty stuff said in this thread. Racism? Of course, the same kind of racism I've heard in rural parts of the North, and from NORTHERN PROFESSIONALS at conferences. Trying to make this region-based is BS, and a case of ignoring what's in one's own backyard.

On Edit: this is my last post in this thread, because I think it is ridiculous and flypaper.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
53. Pointing out hypocrisy is a fair point.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:28 AM
Jan 2013

I have run into racism in the north. Rural Maine is Bad about it. I thought you were saying you hadn't heard racism, and I know from personal experience that it exists. I'm sorry, I understood your point incorrectly. I'm not beating down the south - I myself was a southerner once. I may try to assimilate to being a Yankee after all these years, but I'll always talk slower and use Y'all. Somethings die hard.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
65. Wow...
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:54 AM
Jan 2013

I've returned to an extremely rural part of NW Arkansas (where I spent my formative years) where Democrats are as rare as Ivory-billed woodpeckers. Okay, I'm exaggerating a wee bit. However, I have to be actively anti-racist and anti-homophobic almost every day.

When Obama was campaigning, a local business put a big sign in their window: "Honk if you think Obama is evil."

And, you daren't self-identify as an atheist, or you might get hog-tied and dragged to church.

Glaug-Eldare

(1,089 posts)
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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
5. sweet potato pie
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:35 AM
Jan 2013

Who said anything about shutting your mouth?

What is the "truth about the rural south"?

When you say things like "most aren't much diffeent than the Taliban" well, yes, that does sound like the statement of a bigot.

Also, when I had my business for seven years in Wisconsin, I didn't go around telling people about my politics. I never figured that that would be good for business. The county was perhaps 60-40 in favor of Republicans, but even if I was a Republican, why would I want to perhaps antagonize 40% of my potential customers?

 

MightyMopar

(735 posts)
8. Almost everybody tells me their politics and predjudices and 99% of the time I keep quiet
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:47 AM
Jan 2013

The truth is that yes, other areas of the nation aren't perfect but the south is worse. The anti-intellectualism is overwhelming.

BainsBane

(53,041 posts)
13. Everyone is not that way
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:56 AM
Jan 2013

You need to speak up and find some better friends. I could not be around people like that.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
28. Sometimes when your a goldfish in a ocean of sharks sometimes it's hard to say anything.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:39 AM
Jan 2013

Your better off keeping your mouth shut. I'm a yankee living in the south and I find it's better. But I have very few friends besides my husband,son and daughter-in-law and the grandkids. Really that's all I need anyway. That's enough to keep up with. Besides that if I want to speak out I usually come here. Got plenty of DUers here that have a opinion about something.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
35. It's easier to be a liberal in the south if you are already a southerner.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jan 2013

I was pretty out and in the face of the conservatives down there, but they just believed I was an idiot. A Yankee in the south gets written off immediately.

One wonderful aspect of moving to Conn. was to no longer feel under siege all the time.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
52. Well I moved in the south about 20 yrs ago and I think am still an outsider. My
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:26 AM
Jan 2013

mother-in-law moved here from PA. She had something in common with a majority of people here and that is she grew up on a farm. Her mother-in-law didn't like her because she worked and had an opinion. Her mother-in-law didn't have much of an education. In the end her mother-in-law excepted her because when she was ill my mother-in-law was always there to take care of her. People around here respected her because she was a nurse. But she was a tomboy. She loved to fish, hunt, raise cows, had beehives and garden her veggies. She was her own person. She could fix things herself. My father-in-law retired from the military and helped her raise cows and he went hunting, and fishing. So they always had food. She never depended on her husband because when she needed something done she wanted it done. You know how some husbands can be. She ended up having lots of friends. I don't have much in common with the people around here. I mean I am neighborly. You always hear that southerners are really nice. Well maybe it's just here but I sometimes make cakes or even meals for my neighbors and I never hear back with a thank you it was good. I feel if I take the time you can at least call me and tell thanks or even write a thank you card. I make my granddaughter who is 7 yrs old to write thank you cards for gifts she receive. I want her to know the proper thing to do.

BainsBane

(53,041 posts)
84. May I ask where you live, Southernyankeebellle?
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:45 PM
Jan 2013

It's not right when people don't bother to thank you for doing something nice like cooking them a meal. I lived for a year in a small town in western Washington state.
I was surprised how rude people were. You always here how small town people are friendly. There it was anything but the case. I'm from Minneapolis, and people aren't friendly here but they are polite. They were not in Walla Walla.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
14. I hope y'all have better luck than I've had
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:01 AM
Jan 2013

Mine is falling apart. Power doors stopped working, Headliner falling down, engine mounts all need replacing, have had AC blower replaced twice, one of the power locks doesn't work any more. While it was still under warranty we had the front struts replaced and I can't remember what else but I know I'll never buy another Chrysler. Mine's a 2003 with 60k miles on it. SHould have lasted better than this.


I one thing back - if I found a 71 Hemi Cuda that I could afford I'd probably buy that.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
15. I had a 2000 300M with 265K miles on it... just tires, brakes and regular servicing.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:08 AM
Jan 2013

Good luck finding that Cuda... Mecums sold one for over $350K this week.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
19. lol, yeah I watched some of that
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:17 AM
Jan 2013

Musta missed the Cuda though. When I was in high school my friend had one but he didn't pay anywhere near that. Darn lack of time machines to go back and buy things at yesteryear's prices!!!!

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
10. If you are, I guess I am too....
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:53 AM
Jan 2013

I have been south of the Mason-Dixon line too often. I spent a couple of months in Orlando one week.....and despise Georgia. Georgia was the place that I had a faith healing in a Cracker Barrel washroom. A heimlich would have been more helpful at the time...........and then the woman apparently expected me to pay for something I didn't want in the first place!

That narrow-minded conformity is why I left the country in the beginning.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
11. I ran into a southerner who had guns to shoot 'cans'... Africans, Mexicans and Puerto Ricans.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:53 AM
Jan 2013

Yes.

He was talking about his guns and made that type of 'joke'.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
17. I heard some pretty awful crap when I lived in Georgia. Back then it was
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:12 AM
Jan 2013

Martin Lucifer King. Times change. You could just barely make out the cross burned in my neighbor's grass.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
20. I thought this book sounded interesting
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:17 AM
Jan 2013


Overview

Dubbed “savagely funny” (The New York Times) and “wickedly entertaining” (San Francisco Chronicle), acclaimed travel writer Chuck Thompson embarks on a controversial road trip to prove that both sides might be better off if the South were to secede once and for all.“He’s a travel writer like Anthony Bourdain is a food writer,” writes The Oregonian about Chuck Thompson. In Better Off Without ’Em, the biggest book of his career, Thompson offers a heavily researched, serious inquiry into national divides that is unabashedly controversial, often uproarious, and always thought-provoking.

By crunching numbers, interviewing experts, and traveling the not-so-former Confederacy, Thompson—an openly disgruntled liberal Northwesterner—makes a compelling case for Southern secession. Along the way, he interacts with possum-hunting conservatives, trailer park lifers, prayer warriors, and other regional trendsetters, showing that the South’s perverse church-driven morality, politics, and personality never have and never will define the region as a fully committed part of the United States. Better Off Without ’Em is a deliberately provocative book whose insight, humor, fierce and fearless politics, and sheer nerve will spark a national debate that is perhaps long overdue.



http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/better-off-without-em-chuck-thompson/1111396353

JustAnotherGen

(31,849 posts)
81. It was actually very good
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:09 PM
Jan 2013

One - he uses a LOT of humor!

Two - he highlights the things that we DO have in common - but shows how different the approach is.


And don't think he lets the North East off the hook.


He starts out explaining how the new country of Cascadia would be - and pretty much throws every other region/new country under the bus in the process! If you like Bill Maher's sense of humor -you'll enjoy the book.

Now - with the author being from the North West - I'd love for (and have emailed/encouraged him) to write one - Better Off Without You'se - why New Britain should be Turned Loose As It's Own Country. I can't WAIT to read what he has to write about those of us who like me have spent the majority of their lives in New York/NJ/CT. :lmao:


And most important - at the end - he sits down with the Southern Educational Elite and asks THEM how THEY would feel about secession - and they resoundingly answer "Nope. Not good." And they point out with the high economic growth in some areas of the region - it would actually be bad for the North.


Read this and read The Great Reset: How the Post-Crash Economy Will Change the Way We Live and Work by Richard Florida. Florida's is a warning signal about how we have to come out fighting post 2008 economic disaster . . . add this book in - and you'll appreciate the strengths of the South -and be alarmed about the one weakness - education. Note - Florida shows that not only does the North East have potential to boom again - but so does the South East. Pretty much all of I-95 is important to our economic growth - that means both North and South of the Mason Dixon line that road crosses.

Truly - do NOT judge this book by it's cover.

Response to MightyMopar (Original post)

Warpy

(111,317 posts)
26. "I don't want to listen to that kind of shit!"
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:17 AM
Jan 2013

is what I said to my parents when they tried to trot out that particular white suburban cracker witticism. My parents!

Surely you can say that much to the troglodytes you work with.

Otherwise, they think you agree with them.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
27. Pretty much same experience. I'm tired of listening to these right wing, callous bigots. Of course,
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:58 AM
Jan 2013

the gungeoneers right here on DU like to call me a bigot because I'm against them walking around in public with a gun or two tucked away. Cracks me up. You want to see bigotry, spend time in the south -- a lot of folks in the south consider bigotry (outright racism, really) a family value.

Just suck it up, confront them when you can, and laugh you ass off at their stupidity when away from the losers.

obamanut2012

(26,094 posts)
30. lol The OP and many of the replies are just ridiculous
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:44 AM
Jan 2013

People need to quit watching so many reality shows and B movies.

The regional broadbrushing allowed on here is ridiculous.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
46. Just because YOU think you haven't heard those things
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:21 AM
Jan 2013

doesn't mean they don't happen.

Christ on a crutch - when will people start realizing that their own life experiences aren't necessarily true for everyone else?

tavernier

(12,395 posts)
36. I'm not quite sure why you had to
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:05 AM
Jan 2013

compose your post in that way. Was it for attention value (because of the ugliness of the opening sentence)? Did you itemize the comments of your neighbors because you somehow thought that we don't know what racists sound like?

I agree with the above poster. I don't get why you had to post this.

 

Lesmoderesstupides

(156 posts)
37. Post where people make first hand observations of life in the South are removed
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:05 AM
Jan 2013

and attacked by the defenders of all things southern on DU.


Seems like many do not like the truth and would rather live in denial about the blatant racism that occurs daily in the south.



Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
68. LMAO!
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:11 AM
Jan 2013

Seems like many do not like the truth and would rather live in denial about the blatant racism that occurs daily all across the United States. (I fixed it for you).

 

Mdterp01

(144 posts)
39. Reason number 1 I will NEVER live in the South
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:11 AM
Jan 2013

I just couldn't deal. I would end up hanging from a tree somewhere. I'm one of those northeast Blatinos who will not stand to be disrespected by some racist. The few times I have been to the South I see some Black people who still have this "I know my place and won't stir the pot" mentality. Well child...I remember driving to see a relative of mine who lives in Warner Robbins Ga and had it out with a few white men who tried some racist crap with me. No. Other than the fact that I love cold weather and therefore will probably always live somewhere in the northeast, I wouldn't want to live amongst such racism. I don't want to brand the whole South because there is racism in the North, it's just more subtle. Southern racists are more in your face about it. My cousin lived in Ga after the OJ trial and said she would get evil looks from white people while stopped at a light in her car. See I would've been the type to say "what the f*ck are you looking at?"

obamanut2012

(26,094 posts)
41. Some of you really need to quit watching certain movies and TV shows
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:15 AM
Jan 2013

Some of THE most liberal areas in the whole US are in the South, the state with the strongest populist tradition is Southern, some of the most LGBT-friendly areas, etc,

Some of the most bigoted areas in the entire US are NOT in the South.

Y'all do realize that ANY rural area in ANY state is going to be full of Red voters, right?

Just laughable that this regional bigotry is allowed here, especially since it is often so baseless.

 

Lesmoderesstupides

(156 posts)
45. I am White and lived in the south from the 60's to the 90's and I agree with you
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:20 AM
Jan 2013

I saw the way people of color are still treated and I can tell you that they don't take to kindly to whites even defending people of color.

Unless I have to go for work I avoid the place it disgusts me that much.

 

Lesmoderesstupides

(156 posts)
61. Not really the poster denies first hand accounts of southen racism that happen today
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:46 AM
Jan 2013

Living in a fact free zone is not healthy

cordelia

(2,174 posts)
67. I am not denying that racism does not exist in the South.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jan 2013

It exists in the South just like it exists in every region, every state, every city and town.

It's there, it's ugly, and I hate it.

I am just more "enlightened" than those who are so intolerant and small-minded as to hate an entire region because of the actions of some.

obamanut2012

(26,094 posts)
42. Well, the OP got what he wanted with this thread
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:18 AM
Jan 2013

And, I won't bite anymore.

I'll just say this one less thing: Putting "Martin Luther Coon" in a subject header is just... interesting to me.

 

Lesmoderesstupides

(156 posts)
77. Ahh yes sweep it under the rug in the name of decency to save your delicate sensibilities
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:07 PM
Jan 2013

It still does not change the fact that many in America call it by that name.

Shine a big spotlight on it and expose those that do it, it is the only way to end it.

obamanut2012

(26,094 posts)
83. yup
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jan 2013

That and the South bashing is just very... interesting. At least we weren't asked this time what race we were.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
55. I hear shit like that and I'm in the north.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:34 AM
Jan 2013

It's almost like one region doesn't have a monopoly on assholes like you're implying. How odd. Could it be this is just another of your race-grenade threads, like when you demanded to know DU's racial breakdown because you felt it was too white?

cordelia

(2,174 posts)
57. I heard shit like that when I lived in the
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:39 AM
Jan 2013

West, when I've been in the Pacific Northwest on business/vacation, in NYC and Mass. In Missouri and Minnesota. The shit I heard in California?

It's everywhere.

This is just another South bashing extravaganza.

Intolerance = small minds.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
70. most of Uhhhhmerica is a racist backwater
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:17 AM
Jan 2013

it isn't exclusive to the south.

once you get out of the urban areas, this country is a vast land of idiocy, hatred, and fear.

klook

(12,162 posts)
64. So what is the point of this OP, ultimately?
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:51 AM
Jan 2013

"Fuck The South"?

That fits in well with some people's agenda.

Or do you have suggestions for persuading backward rural Southerners to think differently about race and politics?

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
73. i don't really see an 'agenda' in the OP
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jan 2013

i have a couple of suggestions-

the trick is being BOTH more open AND closed-minded-

closed to prejudice, basically, and open to the idea that how someone looks doesn't define who they are.

it isn't just the south- i'm from the 'north' and there are bigoted people here,too. i've grown dreadlocks before (i'm white), and i've heard and seen the same things described in the OP. some of the worst bigots i know personally are transplanted canadians.

here is a pic of obama with his mother for starters: (you might notice she is not black)
http://www.salon.com/2011/04/21/barack_obama_ann_dunham_biography/

i think the important thing is to remember that black people and LGBT people are just that, PEOPLE, and if you can see them for who they are and what they go through on a daily basis, you can appreciate them more as human beings.

instead of automatically thinking thief or freak.

i don't mean this to sound judgmental - democrats are not immune to the below- (bay of pigs, vietnam...)

Groupthink
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an incorrect or deviant decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences. Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking

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What is Groupthink?

Groupthink, a term coined by social psychologist Irving Janis (1972), occurs when a group makes faulty decisions because group pressures lead to a deterioration of “mental efficiency, reality testing, and moral judgment” (p. 9). Groups affected by groupthink ignore alternatives and tend to take irrational actions that dehumanize other groups. A group is especially vulnerable to groupthink when its members are similar in background, when the group is insulated from outside opinions, and when there are no clear rules for decision making
http://www.psysr.org/about/pubs_resources/groupthink%20overview.htm

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
66. I'm from NYC lived here my entire life
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:56 AM
Jan 2013

I've heard the same statement used here in reference to mlk day. I think some of the most open racism exists here in this city. We like to pretend we are forward thinking in this part of the country but we are fooling ourselves. I will admit I haven't spent much time in the south but it really sounds like some pull their thoughts from stereotypes.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
78. NYC too. I've only heard people be openly racist in two places all these years here
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jan 2013

there was a pocket working class neighborhood of whiteness north of mine (featured in Spike Lee's Summer of Sam) where many residents were very open about guarding (with baseball bats) to keep it that way. Scary. The other was a small company I worked for a short time run by Southern DAR types. It was quite disconcerting to hear "professionals" frequently making racist comments. I immediately started looking for other work, and went off on three people the first week. I'm really glad I was in a financial position to take that gamble and not have to keep my mouth shut. I was shocked and horrified. But that was because I hand't heard people talk like that openly in thirty years. Very different experience from rural america, that thirty year gap.
NYC is very integrated, and it's just not generally acceptable here. You'd have to find yourself a racist clique to be open about it. Every single other place I worked, that shit would get you fired immediately.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
79. Sadly that racist clique is half my family
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jan 2013

The racism I see goes beyond what is said to what is done. The economic revitalization plans under giulliani and bloomer that targets poor and minority communities and forces them out into worse and worse situations

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
72. Well Your Starter does sound like Penguins Mating!
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:50 AM
Jan 2013


If you had only picked SharpChevy or FearsomFord why you might have found more luv.
 

MightyMopar

(735 posts)
85. More false equivalency, yes all regions have bigotry but in the rural south it's mainstream
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jan 2013

The first step in fighting it is to acknowledge it and quit saying other parts of the country are just as bad because in general they're not.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
86. What say DU
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:28 PM
Jan 2013




King Penguin vs Chrysler Gear Reduction starter. Sound alike?







Seriously a Mopar Fan who can't take some good natured ribbing about that dang starter.
Have a Six Pack and relax
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