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Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:35 PM

"Think Progress" Report: "Three Winners And Three Losers In Today’s Filibuster Deal"

(For those who want to see the details on the Filibuster Vote this is a good read. It appears the Repugs won a lot...but there are a few helpful things. As all Dems here know, "Think Progress "is not a REPUG Organization so their analysis has big creds)]

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Three Winners And Three Losers In Today’s Filibuster Deal

By Ian Millhiser on Jan 24, 2013 at 12:45 pm


The Big Winner

The Huffington Post reports that Senate Leaders Harry Reid (D-NV) and Mitch McConnell (R-KY) reached a deal today to support minor — and in some cases, temporary — changes to the Senate Rules, rather than push through the more robust reforms championed by many Democratic senators. The language of the deal, which is divided into two separate resolutions, is available here and here.

The list of reforms is short and unlikely to fundamentally repair the broken Senate, but it does include some genuinely helpful reforms to the nominations process — in addition to a major concession to the Republican minority. Here are the three biggest winners and losers in this package:

er on Jan 24, 2013 at 12:45 pm

The Big Winner
The Huffington Post reports that Senate Leaders Harry Reid (D-NV) and Mitch McConnell (R-KY) reached a deal today to support minor — and in some cases, temporary — changes to the Senate Rules, rather than push through the more robust reforms championed by many Democratic senators. The language of the deal, which is divided into two separate resolutions, is available here and here.

The list of reforms is short and unlikely to fundamentally repair the broken Senate, but it does include some genuinely helpful reforms to the nominations process — in addition to a major concession to the Republican minority. Here are the three biggest winners and losers in this package:

Winners

Republicans: The package creates a new process that gives Republicans the ability to offer two amendments on any bill that cannot be blocked by the Majority Leader, although there is a process by which consensus bills can be streamlined if a substantial number of Republicans consent. More importantly, however, by not including any real limits on the minority’s power to force 60 vote majorities on nearly any bill or nomination, Republicans retain their veto power over matters they wish to block.

District Judges: Currently, Senate rules allow the minority to force up to 30 hours of wasted time before a single nominee can be confirmed. Because Senate floor time is limited, this leads to many confirmations being delayed for months or killed entirely simply because the Majority Leader cannot afford to budget the time to move the nomination forward. The proposal reduces the amount of time that can be wasted while confirming a federal trial judge to 2 hours, significantly reducing the time cost of such confirmations.

Sub-Cabinet Officials: Meanwhile, the 30 hours of wasted time on sub-cabinet officials’ confirmation votes is reduced to 8 hours.


COMPLETE LIST (including "Losers" at "THINK PROGRESS"

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/24/1491461/three-winners-and-three-losers-in-todays-filibuster-deal/?mobile=nc

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Pryderi Jan 2013 #1
riqster Jan 2013 #2
KoKo Jan 2013 #3
riqster Jan 2013 #4
Fumesucker Jan 2013 #5
KoKo Jan 2013 #6
duffyduff Jan 2013 #7

Response to KoKo (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:38 PM

1. Repugs get to offer 2 amendments to any bill.

2 poison pills added to every piece of fucking legislation.

THIS FILIBUSTER REFORM DOES NOTHING!

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Response to KoKo (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:47 PM

2. The solution?

Get more Dems in the senate who are not testicularly challenged.

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Response to riqster (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:08 PM

3. We try...but in Red States...the Dems are often close to Repugs...

so much so that they vote with them most of the time. In Red States it's what happens and the Repugs are now on Gerrymandering in all states where they have a majority in State Legislatures so that it will become impossible. It's already affecting NC.

We can't get enough Progressive clout to work against the Big Business money at this time. We try...but, we don't have the media, or the resources. This is the big problem and why 9 Senators in the US Senate (including some well-known liberals) often vote with Repugs.

It's going to be awhile before we can make these changes given the rampaging Repugs in the the State Legislatures who have control in so many states and are encroaching on even the Blue States. It's the Big Money and Media Control that has to be overcome. As Dems we need to focus on the change there.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:22 PM

4. All true.

It's not much better in Ohio- a purple state with a red government.

By the way, am I the only one who notices that the Reeps took the color red as their own: the same red that also is a trademark of Communist parties and nations?

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Response to KoKo (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:22 PM

5. And the Very Serious People all breathe a huge sigh of relief.

A major disaster averted for the Village, losing the filibuster fig leaf would have made keeping the status quo intact far more difficult to explain.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:52 PM

6. Yep..."the Very Serious People"....they Saved the Filibuster......and are cheered

because "THEY" knew something "WE DIDN'T."

Whatever...the WORK goes on... picking up recruits here and there and then one day..A Mighty Army Appears....out of NOWHERE! (and...who...coulda' known?)

It will take time and time and work.

That's the hope I have... But, shit.. More People have to Recognize the PROBLEM!

That's hard going.

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Response to KoKo (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:42 PM

7. Neither side has any intention of changing anything.

The system is broken. Period.

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