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Dennis Kucinich is now assisting Fox 'news" to sell their "fair and balanced" crap. (Original Post) AlinPA Jan 2013 OP
Yes, I believe he is now destined to be the Ron Paul of the left. 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #1
Too, bad, huh libodem Jan 2013 #2
He is not getting paid to do that. They will cast him as a "wacko liberal". AlinPA Jan 2013 #5
That is what I fear libodem Jan 2013 #13
And that will be different from MuseRider Jan 2013 #15
yeh, no shit frylock Jan 2013 #24
So he is willingly taking money to be cast as the "wacko liberal." Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #16
It will be interesting to see how Faux deals with Dennis, and vis-a-versa leveymg Jan 2013 #3
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall during the negotiations Fumesucker Jan 2013 #7
I think a network that airs the views of the radical Left and Right is long overdue leveymg Jan 2013 #25
The guys fought the good fight for years el_bryanto Jan 2013 #4
Faux doesn't allow sabbat hunter Jan 2013 #8
Colmes was a moderate centrist el_bryanto Jan 2013 #10
This isn't fighting--this is allowing Fox to use him. Arkana Jan 2013 #17
I'm not a fool and I more or less said that's why they want him el_bryanto Jan 2013 #19
Maybe they can share a moment of hate for those expressing their right to burn colored cloth. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #6
Is that better than assisting society to sell their "fair and balanced" crap? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #9
I believe he was a true "voice and a horse in the game" in the past. This employment is about AlinPA Jan 2013 #11
In all such roles, his heart may very well believe in the cause NoOneMan Jan 2013 #14
I give Dennis a very short career in this job. He is too outspoken to be able to handle their bull jwirr Jan 2013 #12
Report: Fox News Renews Karl Rove’s Contract ProSense Jan 2013 #18
RW media loves to find "kooky" liberals to feature on their shows. DCBob Jan 2013 #20
Hey, a guy's gotta earn a living, you know. MineralMan Jan 2013 #21
Well, what a sellout. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #22
They are hiring him to advance their agenda Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #23

libodem

(19,288 posts)
13. That is what I fear
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:47 PM
Jan 2013

He'll be used and mocked, for his beliefs. I like the guy, and dread having him abused for their amusement.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. It will be interesting to see how Faux deals with Dennis, and vis-a-versa
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:30 PM
Jan 2013

I wouldn't assume that Dennis can or will be bought off or made to shut-up. He's certainly nobody's stooge. I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing more from him, and it can only be a good thing that he finally gets a forum where more people will hear what he has to say.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
7. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall during the negotiations
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jan 2013

I wonder how strong a contract Kookinich has?

A good strong one might make him more independent that Fox is really prepared to deal with, they have been epistemically closing themselves off for so long their intellectual-fu is all but nonexistent and it might not take much of a push from the inside to really shake them up.



leveymg

(36,418 posts)
25. I think a network that airs the views of the radical Left and Right is long overdue
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jan 2013

Media has been dominated for so long by the Radical Centrists, and has suffered from intellectual poverty as a result, a real conflict of ideas might just shake things up more widely.

I don't see Kucinich pulling too many punches just to keep that job. Might be awesome to watch him mix it up with some of the smarter Rightists, and there are some.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
4. The guys fought the good fight for years
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jan 2013

He's not going to compromise his principles - doing so would render him useless to Fox. They want him up there as an egghead, head-in-the-clouds liberal; for him to go towards the right or the center, would render him useless to them.

He's earned a paycheck or two - I'm not his biggest fan, but I don't begrudge him the opportunity to continue fighting while getting paid.

Bryant

sabbat hunter

(6,839 posts)
8. Faux doesn't allow
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jan 2013

people on the air who actually put up a fight.

The put on lightweights like Colmes who never stood up to Hannity.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
10. Colmes was a moderate centrist
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jan 2013

who was also collecting a paycheck, the terms of which forbid him from engaging Hannity directly. He's kind of a sad sack on the air - his book is pretty good from what I hear.

I don't think they want Kucinich to be a forceful and effective advocate for liberalism - i think they want him because they believe that, already, he's not a very strong advocate for liberalism. I don't think they will tell him anything; they want him to keep doing what he is doing.

That said their perceptions of him are probably different than ours.

Bryant

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
17. This isn't fighting--this is allowing Fox to use him.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jan 2013

They can say that because Dennis disagrees with Obama, that must mean the entire American left does too--and you people are fools if you don't think Fox will seize on this to push a false narrative.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
19. I'm not a fool and I more or less said that's why they want him
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:21 PM
Jan 2013

But, I'm saying, he's a grown man, he's put up with a lot over the years, and let him have his paycheck. Let him continue the fight however he wants to, even if it looks foolish to us. They might be using him, but, maybe from his perspective, he's going to use them too.

Bryant

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
9. Is that better than assisting society to sell their "fair and balanced" crap?
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jan 2013

I've forever wondered if Dennis was simply an inadvertent tool of the machine to convince malcontents that they have a voice and a horse in a game that forever tramples on their dreams and wishes. Every good empire needs their dissidents within the system, both to fool the masses and to promote agreed upon change when it is determined to accelerate the growth of the empire itself.

The illusion of hope and change can be more cost-effective in fighting revolutionaries than bullets.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
11. I believe he was a true "voice and a horse in the game" in the past. This employment is about
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:46 PM
Jan 2013

working in the GOP propaganda network.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
14. In all such roles, his heart may very well believe in the cause
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jan 2013

We are in no position to question his motives.

But despite both roles, the empire has and will largely continued to do what it wished. Personal intentions are not correlated to systematic effects.

In any case, I remain ambivalent. He will probably be no more effective at convincing Fox viewers of his ideas than congress people. All he will do is preach to whatever choir that needs to believe in him.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. I give Dennis a very short career in this job. He is too outspoken to be able to handle their bull
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:47 PM
Jan 2013

for long.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
18. Report: Fox News Renews Karl Rove’s Contract
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:01 PM
Jan 2013
Report: Fox News Renews Karl Rove’s Contract

Fox News has renewed Karl Rover's contract through the 2016 election, Politico's Mike Allen reported Thursday. According to Politico, Fox will announce the deal soon.

Rove made waves on the network on Election Night, criticizing Fox for what he said was a premature call for President Obama. After the blow-up, network chief Roger Ailes reportedly sidelined Rove for a time. He has since been back on-air and has more scheduled appearances coming up.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/report-fox-news-renews-karl-roves-contract

Oooh, fair and balanced for the lunatic crowd.





DCBob

(24,689 posts)
20. RW media loves to find "kooky" liberals to feature on their shows.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:24 PM
Jan 2013

Its been a strategy of theirs for quite some time. Its a shallow attempt to convince viewers how out of touch libs are. I think it only works with those who already believe that.

MineralMan

(146,345 posts)
21. Hey, a guy's gotta earn a living, you know.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jan 2013

Fox Schmox, I say. However, I won't be seeing him there. He's just another progressive voice that won't be heard, and he has no vote in the House any longer. What will become of him? Who knows?

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