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If Breaking Bad's Walter White lived in Canada... (Original Post) octoberlib Jan 2013 OP
Brilliant, I'm LMAO! Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #1
Kicking this again. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #12
k+r! TeamPooka Jan 2013 #2
Good one! Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #3
I stopped watching early in Season 3... FleetwoodMac Jan 2013 #5
Well, if you were getting depressed, Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #6
Jesse's quite a character, isn't he? FleetwoodMac Jan 2013 #14
I love him. Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #15
Nope, it's an extremely dark show. joshcryer Jan 2013 #9
I thought as much, but FleetwoodMac Jan 2013 #16
Hyper Eye's analysis is good. joshcryer Jan 2013 #18
Disliking Walter is intentional Hyper_Eye Jan 2013 #10
Thank you for a very well thought out post! FleetwoodMac Jan 2013 #13
I think you got it as well. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #19
That's great. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2013 #4
Best show on TV, Unknown Beatle Jan 2013 #7
Awwww jeez JusticeForAll Jan 2013 #8
"Treatment begins in 29 days." joshcryer Jan 2013 #11
I'm the cook - say my name. Initech Jan 2013 #17

FleetwoodMac

(351 posts)
5. I stopped watching early in Season 3...
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:49 AM
Jan 2013

It became increasingly depressing, and none of the characters were likeable - including, by then, Walter.
Did it get any better since then?

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
6. Well, if you were getting depressed,
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:13 AM
Jan 2013

I guess I'd have to say things didn't get much better, but there are continual plot twists and I'm really curious how they're going to wind it up. I'm a bit of a Jesse fan myself, and I think he's showing some redeeming qualities.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
9. Nope, it's an extremely dark show.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:50 AM
Jan 2013

It is also depressing for me.

Going to finish it up because, really, I've stuck it out this long.

FleetwoodMac

(351 posts)
16. I thought as much, but
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jan 2013

Hyper Eye's post below has inspired me to give the show another shot - even if I generally avoid depressing shows.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
18. Hyper Eye's analysis is good.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:42 PM
Jan 2013

And I'm glad I went into the show after he killed Crazy 8 seeing Walter as a villain. I would've enjoyed an anti-hero, but something told me they were going to take it in a really dark direction.

Hyper_Eye

(675 posts)
10. Disliking Walter is intentional
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 06:02 AM
Jan 2013

POTENTIAL SPOILERS IN THIS POST (nothing very specific)!!!

One of the major points of the show is to present the transformation of a normal person into a major criminal. Each step of the way Walter has been a willing participant but has also resisted the depths he has been required to sink to in order to continue on the path he is on. As he begrudgingly takes these steps he becomes desensitized to them and then carries out these acts without the previous consideration. As such he becomes more and more uncaring and willing to do increasingly violent and low things to maintain the track he is on. It is a transition from someone completely recognizable as human in circumstances we can sympathize with into someone that is increasingly difficult to root for. His transformation has carried him from hero (the under-appreciated chemistry teacher and car wash employee who is diagnosed with cancer with little hope for survival that decides to do something he is especially capable of) to the antihero (a small time drug producer that murders, lies, and manipulates when necessary in order to protect his family) to a villain (willing to cause serious emotional and physical harm to other characters easily recognizable as good in order to pursue a drug operation well beyond what is needed to meet the needs he originally set out so that there is no moral explanation left for his thoughts or actions.) Usually you meet a character already in one of these roles and they fulfill that role for the duration. Sometimes you see a character change from one to another due to something sudden and tragic. Walter White is a unique character that arcs all the way through these roles and it happens slowly and agonizingly. There are discernible moments when you can recognize the change in your perception of him but the majority of the time it happens largely without notice. An expression of emotion lost here, hesitation lost there. In the end we may be as ready for Walter White to meet his fate as we were for Gus Fring. I think it's incredible story telling and I don't think there is anything else being done quite like it. I am also pleased with the portrayal of suffering from lung cancer as well the toll that methamphetamine use takes on people and what that lifestyle looks like. I think they are largely taboo on television and Breaking Bad exposes them. I quit smoking about 6 years ago but a friend of mine that still smokes quit after the first season of Breaking Bad. I will agree that the show isn't for everybody but I think it is one of the best possibly only surpassed by Six Feet Under.

FleetwoodMac

(351 posts)
13. Thank you for a very well thought out post!
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:08 PM
Jan 2013

I especially liked your take on Walter's transformative journey into moral decay.
And give yourself a pat on the back - because what you wrote has inspired me to give the show another chance come spring (not now, not now).

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
19. I think you got it as well.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:26 AM
Jan 2013

I would only add that, with only a few exceptions, Walter's only choice was do it or die.

JusticeForAll

(1,222 posts)
8. Awwww jeez
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:22 AM
Jan 2013

I just started watching this series on New Years' Day. (on season 2 episode 9 now)

Thanks for spoiling the (alternate) ending.

Great post!!

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
11. "Treatment begins in 29 days."
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 06:02 AM
Jan 2013
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/48098832.pdf

Sorry. I came across this while looking up lung cancer survival rates by country.

I still agree with the basic premise of the post.

During my searches I found that both the US and Canada have similar survival and death rates for lung cancer (and lung cancer in both countries is the leading killer cancer, being #1 as the leading cause of cancer related death in both countries).
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