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AURORA, Colo. (AP) A gunman barricaded inside his Colorado home fired shots at police from a second-story window before he was killed as SWAT officers stormed the home Saturday. Once inside, they found the bodies of three other adults, authorities said.
The suspect, whose name was withheld by police, held officers at bay for nearly six hours after neighbors reported gunfire at 3 a.m. inside the modest townhome in the Denver suburb of Aurora, said police Sgt. Cassidee Carlson. It wasn't known if officers shot the suspect or if he shot himself.
Investigators said two men and a woman appeared to have been killed before officers arrived.
The suspect shot at police who approached the front of the home with an armored vehicle and who fired tear gas around 8:15 a.m. He was killed when he fired at officers from the second-story window about 45 minutes later, Carlson said.
http://news.yahoo.com/4-dead-police-standoff-colo-townhome-165923693.html
How do you suppose this would have turned out if the guy had had a knife?
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Well, maybe SWAT would have been able to capture him alive for a trial.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)like the guy who took a knife into the Chinese school and INJURED a bunch of children but killed none. Is lying to yourself how you manage to get through the day? You may convince yourself, but no one else buys it.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Walks up behind them, clamps a hand over their throats, and slits their throat. One at a time. No big deal, if you're determined and detached. Especially if they're sleeping.
A largish cable tie would make an excellent garrotte, as well.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)They serve no unique purpose. Arms can include knives. That covers your Second Amendment rights. Problem solved.
MightyMopar
(735 posts)But they always succeed when they are called on to do it.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Try again.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)If guns make no material difference in self defense or assault, you don't need them. You can't have it both ways. The faulty logic is not mine.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)You extrapolate this to all 310 million people in this country. Sorry.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)for every act of gun violence. Now you backtrack.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)This man wanted to kill three people. He didn't decide "hey, I have a gun, I guess I should go kill a few people". He decided "These three people must die to solve my problem", then he grabbed a weapon and did the deed.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Nuclear weapons aren't the cause of war, nor are missiles and conventional bombs, but they certainly make it far more deadly. Guns are efficient killing machines. They make killing easier and FAR more common. Their proliferation in this cultural signals a profound cultural sickness where evil prevails over humanity. And yes, I mean evil. There is no other way to describe a multi-billion dollar industry that profits from murder, and a culture that protects those profits above human life. We live in a culture steeped in violence, and guns are intrinsic to that.
Robb's post once again is appropriate: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2126312