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Appeals court reluctantly overturns rape conviction
A state appeals court has overturned the rape conviction of a Southern California man whose victim may have mistakenly believed he was her boyfriend - conduct that the court reluctantly concluded is not a crime.
In a ruling Wednesday, the Second District Court of Appeal in Los Angeles granted a new trial to Julio Morales, who has already served his three-year prison sentence, and urged the Legislature to change the law.
Morales was charged with sexually assaulting an 18-year-old woman in her dark bedroom after a party in Cerritos (Los Angeles County) in February 2009. The court said the woman and her boyfriend had considered having sex after the party but decided not to, and he went home while she fell asleep.
She told police she awoke awhile later during an act of intercourse, but realized only when light shone into the room that the man was not her boyfriend. She said she tried to push him away, and he resisted but eventually left.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Appeals-court-reluctantly-overturns-rape-4164988.php#ixzz2GwgJVm00
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CaliforniaPeggy
(149,754 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)maxsolomon
(33,440 posts)At least from what you posted, she did not consent.
Rape.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,754 posts)Orrex
(63,247 posts)In the same way that murdering someone who's sleeping isn't murder.
Lochloosa
(16,076 posts)I would have "reluctantly" asked the lawyers wtf they were doing wasting my time.
Straw Man
(6,626 posts)How could it even be in question?
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)that does happen
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)This case appears to be about the jury instructions relating to the accused's story, which is different from the victim's:
Morales' first trial ended in a hung jury. He was convicted in his second trial of the crime of "rape of an unconscious person," which jurors were told could be committed in one of two ways: Either the victim was asleep and unable to refuse consent, or she was unaware of what she was doing because the perpetrator "concealed information from her."
The appeals court said that the second case was inaccurately described to the jury, because the law only applied to a married victim who believed he/she was having sex with his/her spouse.
When the court said the legislature should amend the law, they meant that the legislature should amend the law to cover cases like this.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Woman was asleep, so could not have consented to initiation of act; male had no reason to believe that she would consent (no relationship betw. the two, male resisted attempt to desist, adding force.
It's not only rape, it's very clearly rape.
If a woman gets drugged into insensibility or blind drunk, that does not give anyone justification to have sex with her. The theory that this is not rape is really quite extraordinary.
yardwork
(61,737 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)and begins to have sex with her anyway, and that's NOT rape?
Bullshit.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)Jim__
(14,092 posts)It wasn't clear whether the jury ruled that she was asleep, or that she she thought Morales was her lover.
Morales' first trial ended in a hung jury. He was convicted in his second trial of the crime of "rape of an unconscious person," which jurors were told could be committed in one of two ways: Either the victim was asleep and unable to refuse consent, or she was unaware of what she was doing because the perpetrator "concealed information from her."
There is such a crime under California law. But the appeals court said it's defined narrowly, to cover situations in which the perpetrator misleads the victim into believing they're married, and doesn't apply if she believes she's having sex with her lover.
d_r
(6,907 posts)it is rape
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Even if he was her boyfriend this would be rape. No consent. How fucking creepy.