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Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:18 AM

Grading State Gun Laws

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 08:13 AM

1. The Brady Bunch..

Known for their twisting of truth and out-right lies...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

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Response to pipoman (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 08:16 AM

2. "Homicides" and "deaths" are two different things. Look it up if you don't believe me.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 08:38 AM

3. Maybe, just a twisting of fact..

the fact appears to be that 3 states they love, Cali, Md, and IL are all in the top 10 for highest "gun violence" rates, and several of the states with the lowest "gun violence" rates also have Brady bad grades..NH, the lowest "gun violence", has a D, Vermont, the second lowest has a Brady F, The 4th lowest, WY, F, the 5th lowest, ND, F, the 6th lowest, ME, F, the 7th lowest, SD, F, The 9th lowest, UT, F, the 10th lowest ID, F.

No, the Bradys are known for this. They constantly use the term "gun violence", but they can't use actual "gun violence" stats in this map because it proves them insignificant and their ratings useless..

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Response to pipoman (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:14 AM

4. Does introducing a new term (e.g, "gun violence) to the discussion constitute "twisting facts"?

I'm confused as to why you are trying to refute this chart, first by introducing and trying to discredit "the Brady bunch", then by introducing a new term.

What's your point?

Do you have any evidence that the "gun death rates" in this simplistic chart are inaccurate? Do you have any evidence that the grading in the chart is inaccurate?

Or are you just here to try to undermine any effort to get America's gun problem under control?

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Response to Scuba (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:29 AM

5. Just injecting a bit of truth

The Brady's are statistical gymnasts. Why didn't you post a link to the source of the map? "Gun death rates" includes everything from suicide to police shootings..crime rates are what people believe they are seeing when they read this silly map...just pointing out the fallacy here...why doesn't Brady publish a map showing gun homicide or gun violence with their silly rating system? because it would prove them irrelevant as they are.

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Response to pipoman (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:43 AM

7. You're projecting your reading comprehension difficulties to the rest of the population.

I don't speak for Brady, whoever he is, so you might ask him about what he publishes.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:17 PM

9. Did you make this map?

If not how about a link?

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Response to pipoman (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:34 AM

6. It is the "Brady Campaign," get it right or get the fuck out... nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:18 PM

10. LOL

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:48 AM

8. I see you left out DC (nt)

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Response to Recursion (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:21 PM

11. DC happens to be surrounded by a country full of guns,

and you don't need a passport to get in and out.

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Response to Chorophyll (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:24 PM

13. Two states full of guns, with laxer gun laws, and lower gun crime rates (nt)

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Response to Recursion (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:30 PM

14. And no one stopping anyone from those states at the DC border.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:22 PM

12. That's a boatload of fail, but you should add a link.

The gun lovers will devour you either way, but please don't aid and abet them.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:40 PM

15. Glad to see that the brady bunch has given my state an F.

 

Means we're doing something right.

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