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Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:25 PM

"Rubin and his allies control the Democratic Party with their money"

"Rubin and his allies control the Democratic Party with their money at the moment. Their financial power will not be easily overcome. However, it is important that people understand that the Rubin-Clinton team is every bit as much about redistributing money from the rest of us to the very rich as the Republicans."

From Dean Baker http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/12/26-0

"Their financial power will not be easily overcome."

There seem to be those here who suggest that those of us from the "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party" are not loyal Democrats because we would attack the perfidity of the Rubin wing of the Democratic Party.

Let me once again link to, listen to and quote Ted Kennedy

"I am asking you to renew the commitment of the Democratic Party to economic justice"

"The serious issue before us tonight, is the cause for which the Democratic Party has stood in its finest hours ... our cause has been, since the days of Thomas Jefferson, the cause of the common man, and the common woman. Our cimmitment has been, since the days of Andrew Jackson, to all those he called "the humble members of society" - the farmers, mechanics and laborers. On this foundation we have defined our values, refined our policies and refreshed our faith."



A deal that heavily favors the top 20% over the bottom 40% is NOT a deal worthy of that heritage.

The Rubin wing is happy to accept and fight for such a deal, but I am not. Nor am I willing to just roll over and accept their domination of the Democratic Party. No, I will stand with the bottom 75%, the common man and the commom woman and hope that they will join together to take our party back.

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Reply "Rubin and his allies control the Democratic Party with their money" (Original post)
hfojvt Dec 2012 OP
Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #1
hfojvt Dec 2012 #2
liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #3
woo me with science Dec 2012 #4
hfojvt Dec 2012 #6
LineReply ^
Wilms Dec 2012 #5
banned from Kos Dec 2012 #7
annabanana Dec 2012 #9
hfojvt Dec 2012 #12
annabanana Dec 2012 #8
banned from Kos Dec 2012 #10
annabanana Dec 2012 #11
arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #13
TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #14
hfojvt Dec 2012 #15
99Forever Apr 2013 #16
grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #17
Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #18
hfojvt Sep 2013 #19
Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #20

Response to hfojvt (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:42 PM

1. EmoProg, Loony Liberal, didn't get your pony--

Yup. You jumped in the liquefied cowshit puddle with both feet & no boots this time.

Well, I'm in here with ya.

Let's hit the bar after the shit stops flying & we have a chance to clean up.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:53 PM

2. not much excrement flying

so far the KNR saloon seems like a lonely, quiet place.

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Response to hfojvt (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:16 PM

3. k&r

We need to restore economic justice, and we cannot do that with bought politicians.

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Response to hfojvt (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:18 PM

4. K&R We are bought and sold,


but that can be changed...

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:58 PM

6. kinda discouraging though

somehow I thought there would be more than 9 DUers interested in changing it.

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Response to hfojvt (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:12 PM

5. ^

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Response to hfojvt (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:01 PM

7. Jerry Rubin?

 

Who is this Gawd-like Democratic Rasputin?

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Response to banned from Kos (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:04 PM

9. heh . . . . n/t

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Response to banned from Kos (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:31 PM

12. former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin

"and his allies"

powerful, but no more Gawd-like than the boogey men of the right - the Koch Brothers, the Scaifes, etc.

Point is that the rich have bought both parties and so neither party serves "the common man and common woman" although both like to pretend they do.

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Response to hfojvt (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:02 PM

8. k&r

Here too.

Why must it always wait for the pitchforks & torches?

sigh

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Response to annabanana (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:08 PM

10. uhhhhh - due process?

 

a good lib thing!

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Response to banned from Kos (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:14 PM

11. just lamenting

the seemingly endless slog. . .

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Response to hfojvt (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:49 PM

13. If this is true, the last thing your country

needs is a Hilory presidency

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Response to hfojvt (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:55 PM

14. To deny this takes either child like naivete or TeaPubliKlan level dishonesty

They are just right wingers that can be "made to do it" on some social issues once it is beyond clear the nation at large are ahead of them.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 03:24 PM

15. I don't think it is that obvious

After all, the propaganda is pretty strong and the Kabuki theater pretty compelling, and many voters care deeply about social issues - at least in theory.

I say, in theory, because I ran for treasurer and got soundly thumped. Of course, I ran a fairly lackluster campaign, but our Sherriff candidate ran an awesome campaign and he got thumped about as badly as I did. Yet there was no "social issue" reason to vote against those two Democrats. Heck, there was not an economic issue reason to do so either. Both of us would have just been professionals doing a job. But Republicans voted against us anyway.

Which says to me that social issues are not as important as I thought.

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Response to hfojvt (Original post)

Tue Sep 24, 2013, 12:46 PM

17. Kick

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Response to hfojvt (Original post)

Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:57 AM

18. K & Mofo R!!

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #18)

Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:23 PM

19. thanks

I am gonna kick it myself, just to see how many (or few) views I have.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 25, 2013, 03:21 PM

20. Hard to see why such a post would not be on the greatest list. But, sometimes it's just a matter of

timing--who's on and what other topics are hot on DU at any given time.

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