WTF Is wrong with this guy?

[Whovian]

[ZombieHorde]

1. His subjective priorities are very different than our subjective priorities,

so he seems extremely off to us.

[Drunken Irishman]

3. YOU said tyou were going. You lied ot me.

[ZombieHorde]

5. I know. So sorry. I had my smoke, and then I got back on my laptop.

I'm a DU addict.

[coalition_unwilling]

4. EPIC FAIL for GROSS FALSE EQUIVALENCE. Pat Robertson has just spit on the

memories of the 30-million actual victims of the Nazis, including some 6 million Jews.

[ZombieHorde]

7. For you and I, the 30-million victims is very important.

For him, the 30-million victims seem to not be as important as whatever he is ranting about.

Priorities are subjective. We cannot prove that his priorities are less important than our priorities, because priorities are strictly imaginary. Priorities only exist in our imaginations.

I hate The Holocaust. I don't even like capital punishment for mass murderers. However, that is my subjective opinion. I have a strong bias against killing any human being, except for assisted suicide, and rare cases of self defense.

All priorities are "equal" in that we cannot prove one priority is superior to another priority.

I am not making a false equivalence, you are making a false inequivalence. (is that a word?)

[coalition_unwilling]

9. Priorities may be subjective, but history is not. You are creating a false equivalence by

insinuating that Robertson's subjective priorities are equivalent to our subjective priorities and that is why he seems 'off' to us. No, Pat Robertson's subjective priorities ARE NOT equal to our subjective priorities, if his priority is to insult the memory of the 30 million victims of Naziism.

I'm not going to spend another moment on this silliness, but I think you'd be well served to delete the post that started this subthread. Just a thought.

[ZombieHorde]

10. I know my opinion that all imaginary things are "equal" is very unpopular.

However, I strongly believe that all value is imaginary, but if you can demonstrate otherwise, then I would gladly delete my post. You would completely change my world view, which would be pretty sweet.

[Berlum]

20. .

[Rex]

56. Perfect.

But I doubt it will make an impact.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

32. Perhaps your statement

would have been more accurate had you said his subjective priorities...our objective priorities? The holocaust did happen, after all, it is not the product of our imaginations.

[ZombieHorde]

49. Yes, it happened, but any opinion on it will be subjective.

Pat Robertson is saying liberal Americans are treating evangelicals worse than Nazis treated the Jews. Obviously, most humans will disagree with him. In our minds, the murders, humiliations, tortures, stolen property, etc., just don't compare to some pro-gay show on TV and whatever else he is concerned about. The notion seems absolutely ridiculous to us. However, this is just our opinion, which is based off our strong desire for peace and equality.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

50. There is a distinct difference

between offering an opinion and presenting imagined behavior as fact. Have we had rampages throughout the country, tearing down Christmas trees, burning churches, beating Christians, confiscating their possessions? If we had, your statement would be correct, but we haven't and therein lies the difference.

[ZombieHorde]

64. He has not claimed those things in the quote in the OP. nt

[Sekhmets Daughter]

65. Sure he has.

[ZombieHorde]

66. I think your claim is based on assumption, as was mine concerning pro-gay TV shows.

His claim in the OP is vague, in my opinion, and we don't know exactly what he means.

We do know there is a Democratic Congress, some liberal-based media, but I don't know if there are homosexuals who want to destroy Christianity, or what that would even mean.

[Rex]

54. But that is what you don't seem to understand

that there is not an opinion on the Holocaust, there are facts and history. So that makes it objective from the point of view of facts and history. You are trying to compare a subjective point of view to a factual based event in history. IOW, you cannot succeed with your point because it is invalid in this instance.

[ZombieHorde]

63. Yes, The Holocaust happened, but his take on it is subjective.

Also true, is there are TV shows that promote tolerance toward homosexuality, and his take on that is subjective.

Both things have actually happened.

[Diyames]

23. I'm very sorry...

... but this drives me up the wall. You mean to say "For you and me". I think I've just had too much of these kinds of (very common) grammatical errors. It has become all too frequent. Even people who write for TV and movies who you would assume to have studied the English language make this mistake. I just cant stand it anymore. I'm sorry for nit-picking, but there it is.

[ZombieHorde]

48. Thanks. nt

[WinkyDink]

31. "me". "For you and ME."

[ZombieHorde]

47. Thanks. nt

[NoMoreWarNow]

38. FWIW, they count 30-50 million US abortions as a horror like the holocaust

I never quite understand why they are so obsessed about this, but nevertheless, it is an important part of their psyche.

[JHB]

51. You left out "again"

Pat's been thumping that drum for over 30 years.

[coalition_unwilling]

52. Actually, my remark was pointed at ZombieHorde, as I thought

Robertson's false equivalence was so obvious as to hardly bear mentioning.

Sub-thread that follows will detail my objections to ZH's line of reasoning, I hope.

[Drunken Irishman]

2. He's an asshole. His father was an asshole too.

[Fumesucker]

6. Matthew 5:10

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

You'd *think* they would be grateful for getting a key to the kingdom of heaven given to them, but NOOOO, they have to whine about getting everlasting life in a place of perfect happiness handed to them on a platter.

[cbrer]

8. We executed 6 million Christians?!?!?!

This is a perverted, ignorant, dishonest statement that will no doubt find some traction with the fundamentally mental cases.

[ck4829]

11. A helpful hint to tell if you're persecuted

If you're announcing that you are persecuted to a large audience, via national television, using your vast wealth, in a medium that has potential to reach anyone in the globe, and if you aren't imprisoned or executed for what you say; then you probably are not being persecuted.

If you're forced to say this in a basement in hushed tone to no more than five people, than you might be a little bit more believable.

[Skittles]

12. BINGO!!!!

[Cosmocat]

25. LOL

One of the great aspects of being a conservative in America in this day and age is that you always get to be the victim.

[Arkansas Granny]

29. You've got that right.

[Skittles]

13. he realizes not everyone falls for his garbage

that's the REAL reason he feels "persecuted"

[ck4829]

18. "But I want a cut to the front of the line! Aaahh! Stop persecuting me!"

[UCmeNdc]

14. I have long ago come to the conclusion that Pat Robertson is a borderline crazy old man

[ProfessorGAC]

58. I Think There Is A Genuine Reason To Suspect Early Senility

I know he's been saying this stuff for a long time, but if he were actually firing on all cylinders, he would know that his version of "things" has fallen out of favor.

All he has to do is look at the ratings of his own network. Oh, and by the way, the amount of money ending up in his pocket. Both are down precipitously and have been for more than a few years.

This kind of statement in the face of the current sentiment, while still in a country with more than 70% of the population self-describing as religious, is disconnected from reality.

Sort of like Reagan in his last 3 years in office.
GAC

[on point]

15. Answer: Ignorant and Delusional. Lives in echo chamber with others projecting their hatred on others

[intaglio]

16. In 3 images

[A HERETIC I AM]

22. I find it rather hilarious that the buttocks in the 2nd pic....

Have been blurred out.

Whoever thought that was necessary in that case is..... For lack of a better term....


A dumbass.

[Capt. Obvious]

17. Hey! Why isn't he in a FEMA camp yet?

We missed one!

[Bucky]

19. Yes, Pat... It's *just* like that. The situations are indistinguishable.

Like Cenk Uyger always points out, it's 100% projection with this crowd. Pat "Blood Diamonds" Robertson fears things like this because the thought of doing it himself has crossed his mind more than a few times.

[tclambert]

21. "All the people I want to persecute are persecuting me back. It's not fair!"

There, there, Pat. Remember, if you get your way, they will all burn in Hellfire forever and ever.

[liberal N proud]

24. Has anyone told this ass that Congress is controlled by the fucking Republicans?

What a stupid fuck, just lying to peddle his bullshit.

[Skidmore]

26. Unless he can continue cranking the hate mill, he will lose access

to the endless source of money he fleeces the ignorant and fearful. No flock is no cash. I swear, the older I get the more Marx's statement that religion is the opiate of the masses really rings true.

[Mariana]

40. In the particular case of Robertson's followers

I don't know that "the opiate of the masses" is the right phrase to use. "The crack cocaine of the masses" may be a bit more accurate.

[no_hypocrisy]

27. Robertson and his minions believe they're victims if they aren't

permitted to be religious bigots with or without the sponsorship of the government.

[hobbit709]

28. robertson and his kind are proof there is no god

for no self-respecting god would let them spew the crap they spew without some sort of divine retribution.

[WinkyDink]

30. It's "the same" but "more terrible." OFF HIS ROCKER AND DANGEROUS.

[Dirty Socialist]

42. I Don't Think So

He's a con man. Wanna buy some snake oil? Cures everything, Praise The Lord!

[Mariana]

33. Someone must have said "Happy Holidays" to him

instead of "Merry Christmas". Poor, poor man.

[fadedrose]

34. If there's any truth to the New Testament

then those whose faith relies on it should realize that Jesus was a liberal, and Robertson must not read the New Testament. He's hung up on Sodom and Gomorrah even tho their sin was "PRIDE.' I don't think he's critical of the NRA either..the 5th commandment is not one of the important ones.

[2pooped2pop]

35. I wouldn't say I want to destroy the Christians

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but this guy sure makes a good case for it.

Begone, huckster. Quit trying to scare your foolish followers into sending you more money to fight the ever so scary liberals.

Like Boo, man.

[renie408]

36. I always think it is so IRONIC when "Christians" complain about

being discriminated against.

It makes you wonder if they even understand what the word 'discrimination' means.

[JHB]

45. It means failure to acknowledge that their kind of Christian is the boss...

...who graciously allows dissenters to exist as long as they know their place.

Why do you ask? Did you liberals invent some other definition?





And since this is a subject where there are people who'd say the above in complete sincerity, let me be clear that from me it is heavy-duty, steel-reinforced

[Chan790]

37. He has a critical-deficiency of FOAD.

A critical deficiency indeed.

Jerry Falwell did. Now it's Robertson's turn.

[OnionPatch]

39. That reminds me

We powerful liberals are being remiss......shouldn't we be making them sew some sort of sign on their lapels for easier identification?

[JHB]

41. Sermones eius in ore Dei...

...his words in God's mouth


He's been remaking God in his own image for so long (and received so much praise, adulation, and cold hard cash for doing so) that he can just project whatever oozes into his mind. And he'll always have an audience waiting eagerly to hear it.

[ksoze]

43. Bump on the head as a child? radiation exposure? lobotomy failure?

[Arugula Latte]

53. Or could it be ... ?!

[liberal_at_heart]

44. evangelicals want the freedom to deny others their freedom

and when that freedom to deny others their freedom is threatened they cry persecution. My father still watches this crap. Bugs the hell out of me.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

46. But, y'know, we did some good things, too...

[SCantiGOP]

55. Actually, it is true

I saw on FOX coverage of Christians being loaded into boxcars and transported to extermination camps, and the army handing out smallpox-infected blankets to Republicans. Of course, that still wouldn't be the WORST treatment of a minority in history, it would just be a tie, so I better go back to FOX and catch the rest of the story.

[Ikonoklast]

57. The funniest part of all of this is given half a chance, Robertson would have no problem

using the force of government to eradicate all those that didn't abase themsleves before his god, his idea of morality, and his politics.


Fascists always act the same once in power.

[deutsey]

60. Robertson is definitely the king of projection n/t

[rustydog]

59. So the Nazis let the Jews have fundamentalist tv shows

where they could tell everyone watching that god hates them because of the gays and libruls?
Really Pat...Did you let out your insane giggle as you said that?

[BigDemVoter]

61. The main thing wrong with him is that he is a HUGE asshole. . . .

The 2nd major thing wrong is that he's also a complete and utter fucking IDIOT.

[OneMoreDemocrat]

62. There's nothing wrong with him actually, what he's doing is a great marketing move...

he will get a lot more money and sympathy for his cause if he can make it appears that Christians are a persecuted minority.