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Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:09 PM Dec 2012

Codepink - Live!!!!! Interupts on full camera the NRA press conference w/

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OMG!!!!!!

I was clapping, screaming.....



It was so surreal - the sign looked like it was being held by Wayne Lapierre and he kept talking....the hands looked like they could be his and he kept glancing down and talking, so I was mystified....

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Codepink - Live!!!!! Interupts on full camera the NRA press conference w/ (Original Post) Pachamama Dec 2012 OP
Wayne LaPierre stopped in mid-speech and blocked by the banner! KeepItReal Dec 2012 #1
Another banner ErikJ Dec 2012 #20
Aha! Didn't realize it's Code Pink flamingdem Dec 2012 #2
Most unbelievable thing - while Wayne Lapierre talking & suggesting our kids are vulnerable because Pachamama Dec 2012 #3
Code Pink hit 'em again! KeepItReal Dec 2012 #4
That was Medea Benjamin, Founder of CodePink!!!!! Pachamama Dec 2012 #5
I'm proud of 'em! KeepItReal Dec 2012 #6
Me too....and I am at the same time sickened as I listen to Wayne Lapierre.... Pachamama Dec 2012 #7
I'm glad NRA's doing this. People need to see the brazen KeepItReal Dec 2012 #8
I dont disagree w/ having a Student Resource Officer (SRO) at my kids school like they did until Pachamama Dec 2012 #9
That is not going to work. Lifelong Protester Dec 2012 #19
Tax All Ammo....Use funds and distribute nationally... Pachamama Dec 2012 #27
Like airport security queues, it's feel-good security theater. Doremus Dec 2012 #24
Completely agree that airport security is Kabuki theater...but the SRO we had was someone who Pachamama Dec 2012 #30
It can't work.. LiberalArkie Dec 2012 #21
Not how a program like this works.... Pachamama Dec 2012 #28
All theoretical. Doremus Dec 2012 #33
This shouldnt be hitting meager school budgets - Its law enforcement funding Pachamama Dec 2012 #35
Funding for both the schools and the PD come from the same source. Doremus Dec 2012 #37
I've followed Media Benjamin for a long time. She has my respect saidsimplesimon Dec 2012 #11
Medea B !!! Berlum Dec 2012 #10
And the NRA wants tax payers to pay for the right to be killed. Sheepshank Dec 2012 #12
I think we should tax Ammo up the wazzu and send the money to fund police and mental health programs Pachamama Dec 2012 #14
Yes. Guns don't kill people. Ammunition does. klook Dec 2012 #26
I support this concept. Good idea. nt Doremus Dec 2012 #34
I was cheering too! jillan Dec 2012 #13
Ms. Benjamin is an American hero NICO9000 Dec 2012 #15
Love me some Code Pink! Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #16
Thank You CodePink! Raffi Ella Dec 2012 #17
that photo is priceless riverwalker Dec 2012 #18
Thank you Code Pink! smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #22
Couldn't believe my eyes--especially when it stayed Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #23
Which is why I was so mystified!!!! Pachamama Dec 2012 #25
I must say it is a pleasure to see some love for CP here G_j Dec 2012 #29
I love Code Pink! stevenleser Dec 2012 #31
Me too. They never give up and really are very courageous. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #32
Nice work Code Pink! JNelson6563 Dec 2012 #36
How do they do it! Glimmer of Hope Dec 2012 #38
Good Question!!! Didnt they notice or know who Medea Benjamin is? Dont they know she protests w/ Pachamama Dec 2012 #39
I love it! Kath1 Dec 2012 #40

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
3. Most unbelievable thing - while Wayne Lapierre talking & suggesting our kids are vulnerable because
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:14 PM
Dec 2012

...they are unprotected in Gun-free zones, a man goes up & holds a big sign that states "NRA is Killing Our Kids"

I was confused at first because it almost looked like Wayne Lapierre was holding the sign and kept saying "this is what's wrong"....the sign was on for over a minute.....

Then as they took away the protester, he got in loudly how the NRA is at fault.....

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
4. Code Pink hit 'em again!
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:15 PM
Dec 2012

Another protester plus someone in the media gaggle asking questions of LaPierre

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
5. That was Medea Benjamin, Founder of CodePink!!!!!
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:17 PM
Dec 2012

I cant believe this!!!! That they even let her in to the conference!!! She got a sign in again, and shout out!!!!

The surreal part is that all while you hear Wayne Lapierre is talking about the need for more guns.....

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
8. I'm glad NRA's doing this. People need to see the brazen
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:25 PM
Dec 2012

ploy to *sell more guns*...an armed Cop in each and every school.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
9. I dont disagree w/ having a Student Resource Officer (SRO) at my kids school like they did until
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:39 PM
Dec 2012

....the program was ended due to budget cuts....

We live in Ross California and had until this last May a full-time assigned police officer who knew all the kids and campus and patroled....these type of achool resource officers are police and do community policing and keeping our kids safe.....I want this program back and think it would be great that all schools have this.....

HOWEVER - I DONT WANT THE NRA ANY WHERE NEAR THESE EFFORTS, TRAINING, FUNDING, Or DECISIONMAKING WHEN IT INVOLVES OUR KIDS!!!!

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
19. That is not going to work.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:04 PM
Dec 2012

who is going to fund a full time officer in my small rural school with 250 kids? Our town has ONE full time police officer. ONE.

Where are the funds going to come from? Heck, I'm just trying to buy new textbooks, WI is hanging by a thread here. We will never be able to pay for an armed guard here.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
27. Tax All Ammo....Use funds and distribute nationally...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:53 PM
Dec 2012

I guarantee if all Ammo was taxed up the Wazzu - a dollar for every bullet, your rural town could have that School Resource Officer....

My childrens school had Officer Bob there for the 400+ kids...it was frankly the best money spent by our local police....they eliminated him last May due to budget cuts....that position is far more impoertant than the police officers and overpaid Chief who sits in his office.....

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
24. Like airport security queues, it's feel-good security theater.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:46 PM
Dec 2012

One police officer in a school is basically useless. An average school has several entrances, many hallways, sometimes more than one story, dozens and dozens of classrooms, offices, etc.

Most shooting rampages last only a short time, minutes. The odds that the security theater officer is within stopping distance of a crazed shooter at any given time are very small.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
30. Completely agree that airport security is Kabuki theater...but the SRO we had was someone who
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:04 PM
Dec 2012

...knew the kids and people in community. He was a former Army Specials Ops guy. He watched all that goes on. If for example I walked by, he would wave and say hi. But if he saw any vehicle or person that didnt fit in, he was watching. That in itself was a deterrent. His sheer presence. So an SRO is a good thing - what we shouldnt have is a NRA police force out there of armed citizens....thats crazy....

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
21. It can't work..
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:30 PM
Dec 2012

The police officer lets in say a plumber to fix a toilet.

Plumber has gun in tool box or in the truck that he goes and gets

Or the UPS driver or telephone man or just about any service person..

It just can not work

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
28. Not how a program like this works....
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:00 PM
Dec 2012

Our school's Resource Officer was a paid officer in Law Enforcement employed by the Town's police force. In Uniform. In front of school in morning walking around at pick-up, watching all going on. When school begsn, doors on campus closed and locked except front administrative offices. Meanwhile the Officer patroled and was within earshot and a minute to being able to respond to anything going on. Its the school administrators that admit people in. Most schools have a policy that other than the achool custodian, all "workers" are only allowed on the school campus during non-school hours.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
33. All theoretical.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:52 PM
Dec 2012

In Newtown, Lanza shot out the door to gain access. School was already in session, so the likelihood of a patrol officer being in the immediate vicinity would have been very slim.

Perhaps your school is quite small. The schools in our district have multiple halls, stairways, wings. To have any effectiveness whatsoever, there would need to be an armed guard at every outside door, whether the door is locked during the day or not. We would need a squad of half a dozen or more armed guards in some of our schools.

When we're ready to devote the majority of our meager school budgets to security then we'll be assured of thwarting most rampages. Anything less is wishful thinking.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
35. This shouldnt be hitting meager school budgets - Its law enforcement funding
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:14 PM
Dec 2012

We have a town of approximately 2400 people with about 400+ kids at our local K-8 school. Our local police force has 8 fulltime police officers (including the chief and two seargeants) with 2 officers on duty at all time. Up until last May, we had a fulltime SRO who was at the school at 8AM thru school day, either directly in front of school upon school starting or getting out and during school hours, patrolling the grounds and the town park in front where the Post office is. If he was at the back area of school or near the corner of the park sitting on the bench, if someone entered the front of the school and a shot rang out, he would be able to radio for backup immediately and head in the direction of shooter. His constant presence during school day was a deterrent to any child predator, drug dealer or someone who might want to go near the kids during recess with ill intentions. Now that we dont have a SRO, a prospective shooter could walk into the front entrance, even with protective front, and if any of the administrators couldnt alert the police soon enough or were killed upon the entry of the shooter, this shooter could kill many civilians before police arrived. If "Officer Bob" was still here at our school campus, even if it was at the back of campus, I guatantee you he would hear any gunshots, radio for backup and know what to do. Most of my childrens teachers and principal have never even heard a gunshot and could mistake it for a car backfiring. Not Officer Bob Besgrove....trained in Army, he would know immediately the sound of gunfire (not to mention recognize any strangers in area) and the simple presence of him would bring police there in minutes and save lives.

Our town almost got rid of the police recently because of funding issues - but we saved them with passing in November Measure D to fund our police....had they gone away, response times could have gone from 2 minute to 30 minute response times because of being further away in a neighboring town they discussed a merger with. Now that we saved our local police by funding it, I want us to bring back the School Resource Officer Program and have that again. My children would be safer, no question. And so, yes, I support a funded (perhaps by taxes on ammo?) SRO program nationally. Law enforcement, not armed teachers or civilians. And certainly with no affiliation, training or connection to the Gun Manufacturer Lobbyists called the NRA.

Old article in local paper from 2009 of our beloved School Resource Officer, "Officer Bob":

http://www.marinij.com/ci_12521277


http://www.marinij.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=2467175

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
37. Funding for both the schools and the PD come from the same source.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:35 PM
Dec 2012

Whether taxpayers are being hit to pay for armed guards through school levies or municipal income taxes, is of little import.

The bottom line is the same: Lots of cost for little/no benefit. I base my opinion on personal experience as our school district does use armed police officers and has since Columbine.

On this topic we are going to have to agree to disagree.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
11. I've followed Media Benjamin for a long time. She has my respect
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:49 PM
Dec 2012

and admiration. BRAVA (sorry for the caps lock)

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
12. And the NRA wants tax payers to pay for the right to be killed.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:55 PM
Dec 2012

Yup that's their call for some fucked up solution. Have the tax payer foot the bill for cops in schools so some blood thristy nut can carry their precious assult rifle into the school and only shoot 10 kids before they are gunned down infront of school kids. Great Fucking solution *not*.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
14. I think we should tax Ammo up the wazzu and send the money to fund police and mental health programs
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:58 PM
Dec 2012

Every bullet should be taxed....every asshole who wants to stock up should have to pay a huge tax surcharge for every bloody bullet.....

klook

(12,154 posts)
26. Yes. Guns don't kill people. Ammunition does.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:52 PM
Dec 2012

We need action on multiple fronts, but big-time taxation of ammo should be in the mix.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
23. Couldn't believe my eyes--especially when it stayed
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:42 PM
Dec 2012

up longer and longer. It was almost as if the news jocks around him were enabling him and willing him to go on.

LaPierre just stood there waiting--he couldn't do a damn thing!

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
25. Which is why I was so mystified!!!!
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:49 PM
Dec 2012

I was waiting for someone to tackle the person when I figured out it wasnt being held up by Wayne Lapierre.....and it just continued to be held....and Wayne Lapierre kept saying "This is what is wrong with our country".....-and as he said that seeing the visual of "NRA is killing our Kids"....

Yes Wayne, this is what is wrong with our country....you, the NRA, the message you stand behind....your guns.....

G_j

(40,367 posts)
29. I must say it is a pleasure to see some love for CP here
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:03 PM
Dec 2012

this hasn't always been the case.

Thank You Again Medea and Code Pink!


Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
39. Good Question!!! Didnt they notice or know who Medea Benjamin is? Dont they know she protests w/
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:38 PM
Dec 2012

....with banners and shout outs at every event she attends?

I bet Medea and the other Codepink protester are shocked even themselves how successful they were!!!

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
40. I love it!
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:57 PM
Dec 2012

Code Pink is awesome and always at the right place at the right time. Way to go, Medea! Peace.

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