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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***NRA PRESSER. LIVE THREAD**** Fuck you Wayne, you loathsome piece of slime.
Immediately slamming those "who politicize this tragedy". Claiming the NRA has remained respectful. Armed security is his solution.
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/
spanone
(135,844 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)you can see it coming...
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I'll go for that.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)The social contract has had 26 proverbial holes shot in it...it's a gaping hole. I agree mental health needs to be increased, but the costs are tremendous and won't be accomplished quickly. School functions have armed guards, most of them sports events. How ever we end up with this, the gun industry MUST bear the cost of regulation...and that includes, sadly, armed security guards at elementary schools.
Were I the parent of a young elementary child today ... again, yes. And neither do I want my kid's teacher to have a gun. It makes absolutely no sense. Where will it be kept? Well locked away, of course. When the unthinkable happens...how long will it take for him/her to access it? And in mayhem, and with kids all around, at what point should he or she shoot? It is the teacher's job to be defensive and manage the kids as best as possible. Not play Rambo...that's what the security guard is paid to do.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It's the worst idea yet. It once again reinforces the idea that you need violence and weapons in your life. It's downright sick.
Just sick. Pretty soon we will be buying metal detectors to put in the entrances of schools. We have them at the entrances of the courts in LA. Everyone gets pretty hardened to them, but in the end, you don't feel safer, you just feel less free.
The proliferation of guns and security is what is making Americans feel violated, less free.
Guns engenders more guns. The fear that causes people to want armed guards everywhere engenders more fear. The fear and the guns are a vicious cycle that are gradually but with increasing speed are making life in this country an obstacle course.
No. Gunmen in the schools is a horrible idea. The worst yet.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)after the holidays? Other than hope or pretend that it "can't happen here"?
Or wait until we have a 1st rate mental health system and can identify every future shooter? How much in taxes would we be willing to pay? It's extremely revenue negative.
And I disagree that the proliferation of guns is more fearful than what happened at Sandy Hook. And what is feared, with all due respect to gun folk, it's the crazy ones who spoil it for the rest.
I've been converted from the sheer futility of banning guns. It would be preferable, but it's not going to happen and I'm not willing to risk kids lives daily for pie in the sky.
We can, given our skills at regulating vehicles, alcohol, cigarettes, air travel, even domestic pet ... regulate and deal with guns in their 21st century reality. They're managed, controlled, taxed, confiscated in certain situations. There is a big pile of money there that can be used, revenue positive. We can do this.
And it's not GUNMEN in schools unless they are there to shoot kids, speaking of paranoia. We speak of Security Guards, like Crossing Guards, just armed and ready should a real gunman get stupid ideas.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We can, given our skills at regulating vehicles, alcohol, cigarettes, air travel, even domestic pet ... regulate and deal with guns in their 21st century reality. They're managed, controlled, taxed, confiscated in certain situations. There is a big pile of money there that can be used, revenue positive. We can do this.
And, yes. It is gunmen in our schools. Any person with a gun is a gunman or woman.
Euphemisms don't change things.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)We're on the same page. And the gun industry will do it and pay for it and be grateful...because it is in their best interests to do so...bad as I hate to admit it. They also know we can't just presto make then all illegal or swoop up all the guns...not possible.
It is huge societal shift...and so much money and politics and emotions ... and there will probably be a big struggle for "rights" to do the job and that scares me a bit.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)that it deprives them of a 2nd Amendment right, lol. Tax them like cigarettes - to make ownership VERY costly and thereby discourage excessive ownership. And to pay for the harm they do to society.
And if gun nuts whine about how expensive they are, just tell them they need to get a job, or work harder, or borrow $20k from the parents to pay for the gun expenses, or start a business to make more money to pay for their toys.
el scorcho
(58 posts)Tax the gun sales to fund mental healthcare and police!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/add-100-tax-purchase-all-firearms-fund-additional-police-and-access-mental-healthcare-resources/RMxBLK9S
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Wayne's first priority is prostituting for the gun and ammo manufacturers so they can make more $$$$$$. "We need more guns"...I'm shocked he would propose such a thing
In reality, he could really care less about how safe school kids are.
liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)The only solution they ever offer, MORE FUCKING GUNS.
Now we know where this phrase originated: "If everyone had a gun we would be safer."
Initech
(100,080 posts)w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)barnabas63
(1,214 posts)Is he calling for more guns?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
spanone
(135,844 posts)MANative
(4,112 posts)Fuck him.
cali
(114,904 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)I hope that's the news, not this gun nut's views
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)One would be right.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Editing because there are more than one!!
Someone speaking for the sane ones!
I was shocked they let the man with the sign stand as long as he did before security swooped in to move him away. His hands were shaking, you could tell he was scared but unafraid to make his stand. Bravery is a good description. I hope some good lawyer goes helps him out.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)They caused the problem, they should pay for it!
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . . like the right wing pigs they are. Sharing the same hog waller, these two diseased porkers are.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)But let's keep a database of the mentally ill so we can ostracize them as if they were criminals. What a dick.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)ignorant piece of shit. HIPA, wayne you fucking moron.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Problem solved.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)And many, many of us look for help at least once in our lives.
The man is an idiot. But then we knew that.
I would favor taxing the possessors of guns to pay for guards in the schools and mental health care. If they are to pay for all that, the taxes would have to be rather high, don't you think. Maybe we should also require gun owners to pay for some of the extra equipment our police officers need to be prepared for run-ins with gun owners.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)He'll scream about registering gun owners or licensing people to possess deadly weapons, then in the very next sentence, demand that people with mental illnesses be ostracized and treated like lepers.
Fuck that murder-succoring cockroach.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I'm totally disgusted by this human piece of shit. It's everybody's fault but their own.
Ban them. Ban them all.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)He can kiss my arse.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I wasn't a radical on this subject until this very moment.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)They have toe-tapping bathroom diaper sex with hookers, then immediately announce that Jesus has forgiven them, and go back home to crawl into their cribs to suckle like fearful children on their guns.
spanone
(135,844 posts)1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)And I am a believer in the individual right to bear arms, but this is beyond reason.
Botany
(70,516 posts).... get guns?
It is the medias fault and schools need more guns too.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Throwing everything out there.
old guy
(3,283 posts)did anyone really expect anything different?
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)old guy
(3,283 posts)but then I felt they have to go all in or be seen as being weak.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Bullies, cowards, and general scum of the earth always behave this way. Nothing is their fault, and you're not allowed to ask questions.
Tab
(11,093 posts)I said I expected them to double-down.
barbtries
(28,798 posts)i'm at work so i haven't seen it...but judging by this thread he is being as dense and offensive as could possibly be imagined. since burt lancaster or whoever it was mentioned his cold dead fingers immediately after Columbine i don't think i could be any more offended by the NRA or their reptilian spokespeople.
cali
(114,904 posts)Unbelievable.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)finish what I want to say.
cali
(114,904 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)"presser."
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Defect the blame on everyone except the guns and their group. The protesters were right - they have blood on their hands.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...for fear of being labeled "part of the problem" as members of the media that produces those eeeeeeevil video games and violent movies that were the REAL cause of last week's carnage.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Cowards
These MF'ers could have just put a video on YouTube if they didn't want to answer any questions.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)He is so "demonized."
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)She rocks.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)Response to Mrs. Overall (Reply #68)
Mrs. Overall This message was self-deleted by its author.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Bad Thoughts
(2,524 posts)You are on the wrong side of the barrel.
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,840 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)and stopped him mid-speech twice so far.
spanone
(135,844 posts)w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)They have shown what evil pricks these NRA bastards are
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)Good.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Screw 'em!
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)The protesters who have been pulled from the room both had signs that were easily seen and read as they stood and were removed and also the way the room is set up they can be heard until they have been taken all the way out - so they are being quite effective so far. Good for them!
MightyMopar
(735 posts)Talk about a monster killing our kids
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)This man is batshit insane.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Hmmm. Could be interesting.
(math: a county with 50,000 people and 20 schools would need 3 people per school @ $50,000 each annually, means $3,000,000 required additional revenue, added on to the bullets and guns sold in the area....)
Bears some thinking.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)Why is it only in America that 10,000 people are murdered with a gun every year?
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)That could cause nightmares and anxiety. It would make the children feel like prisoners.
What a monster this man is.
NRA members should quit that organization and form some new group that protects intelligent gun rights for those who need or want them for legitimate sports and good gun safety instruction with sane leadership.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Maybe gunners will decide that it's a bit expensive to own an arsenal. PSM ... Public Safety Militia? ... like the TSA ... Travel Security Administration. We have to keep thinking and communicating.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)ecstatic
(32,707 posts)People who put guns above adults and children.
barnabas63
(1,214 posts)He sounds completely deranged to me. This is a meltdown.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)The man is a liar. He has the blood of thousands of innocent victims on his hands.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Their commentary is making it a little more bearable. They're saying what I believe most people are thinking.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)Thanks for the reminder!
NeelyCreely
(20 posts)bes thing we can do is repeal 2nd and then go after the other amendments that cause problems like this in our society.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,840 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Go back and tell your freeper friends it's time for them to sit down and shut the fuck up.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Most parents are not going to want to send their children to a school to face an armed guard at the door.
That is not the image of a happy, carefree childhood that parents want for their children.
And private schools will not restore the innocence.
There has to a better solution, less emphasis on guns and shooting and violence in our society.
This Christmas would be a good time to renew our commitment to peace.
And we could start by cutting military programs, in particular our bases overseas, instead of decreasing funds to domestic programs that help American people.
ecstatic
(32,707 posts)and doing so would reveal that the 2nd amendment clearly doesn't mean what most of us were led to believe it meant:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
It's too late to turn back 150+ years of practice. We can, however, ban assault weapons and have more regulations.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Tab
(11,093 posts)The first, perhaps?
barnabas63
(1,214 posts)old guy
(3,283 posts)I am curious about how the media is going to respond. This is Friday, news dump day after all.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)The last thing I want is some NRA "good guy" -- who is steeped in guns -- trying to protect my family.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)lips.
Hell is too good for this creepy psycho.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)More and more the ones destroying this society are showing it...not trying to hide it at all.
Whether it's the NRA, calling for more guns, or the CEO Roundtable talking about how "they" set policy.
Good. Transparency is good.
No nuance. They're telling people in no uncertain terms exactly what their priorities are, and more and more people are paying attention.
Fewer and fewer people are choosing the same kind of world those douchebags have been creating for decades. Granted, they're out there and they're LOUD, but there are fewer of them.
We need to make them IRRELEVANT altogether.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)My bad.
cali
(114,904 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)Disgraceland
(24 posts)I can't see the feed. But is it just bad offensive, or bad like they blew the PR battle bad?
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Response to Disgraceland (Reply #70)
Mrs. Overall This message was self-deleted by its author.
Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)Both.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Wayne Lapierre talking about us needing more guns while you hear Codepink getting the message out about the NRA killing our kids....
I feel like I am watching the most bizarre event ever....as my blood boils.....
footinmouth
(747 posts)This man is crazy. I can't believe I'm still listening to this.
ecstatic
(32,707 posts)of potential teachers. There's absolutely no way the *right* kind of teachers will be attracted to the idea of teaching first graders while also having their assault rifles ready for combat. Should they also go through bootcamp?
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)the windows. or bursting down the door. While the teacher is concentrated on unlocking and retrieving the gun, and switching from reading teacher into Rambo Mode, accidently kills a kid and misses (or kills) the bad guy. The school and the teacher and the School Board and all of their assets could be LIABLE.
Most people don't think of Liability, but there is no way this is going to happen...it is not affordable. Liability Insurance would be sky high. A security guard is covered by their separate employer for their training and fitness for, not teaching, but protecting public places. That is not a teacher's job.
cmd
(5,673 posts)What an idiotic idea. I'm a retired teacher and would never agree to anything like this. Guns have no place in the school. Period.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Security Guard...a 21st century upgraded version of the Crossing Guard. We didn't used to need those, either.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)What is this garbage about "one more natural disaster, etc."? This man's imaginings are just as bad as any film or video game. It is never the guns. He's trying to work up concern and a few tears.
He takes no responsibility for the arming of the nation.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Worse than still holding the NRA convention in Denver right after Columbine.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)garbage???
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)teat to support their evil agenda.
Let THEM pay for it.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)Response to cali (Original post)
Bad_Ronald This message was self-deleted by its author.
Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)I really can't believe what I'm hearing form this asshole.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)You can hear it in his voice. I can only imagine the video clips that will be on MSNBC tonight.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)If you're a member of Congress thinking of voting for gun control, this guy just gave you political cover to do it. Clearly the NRA is not going to cooperate. This presser was just a massive "Fuck You" to the families of the adults and children killed in Newton, CT, and I would expect we'll be hearing from them soon.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Suggesting that two million liberals should join the NRA and take over the organization. If they shed members like crazy (and get their total numbers down), Moore's suggestion might be a good idea.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)Blueprogress
(64 posts)Fuck you NRA. Blood on your hands. What a vile despicable sorry excuse for a human. Blame everything and everyone but guns because they are good my friends. The only gun problem that exist is that that more people need to be armed. More guns... more guns.... guns... fuck you NRA.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)Not necessarily, Wayne. We're not too damned fond of YOU, though. It's past time that the non-nut portion of the membership removes you and your sorry ass from any capacity to form policy for the organization.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)According to the Department of Education, there are 130,000 public and private schools in the United States - not including colleges and universities. At $100,000 per year for salary, benefits, training, and supplies for a fulltime, armed security officer, that would come to $13 billion per year to put an officer in every school.
NRA going to pick up the tab?
Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)They're only offering their so-called EXPERTISE to help set up the programs.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Congress may be easy, but they're not cheap.
theKed
(1,235 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)You use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore...
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Teapartiers need to be able to win re-election and also build their mcmansions for the fun of it.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)As somebody observed, "Have you noticed that the people most worried about Obama creating a police state are ALSO the people suggesting that we need to live under a police state?"
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Sensible from an employment prospective, as well as public safety, all while paid for by outrageous taxes and registration fees on guns. Remember that the Vet Employment Bill went down? No money.
Time to start thinking outside the box. Your kid's life could depend on it. It isn't just "them and theirs" anymore. It's "us and ours".
hatrack
(59,587 posts)I can't fucking BELIEVE this - off-the-charts awful.
Flat-out sociopathic.
Mr Peabody
(36 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Pass it on. They want more deaths, not less.
and anyone that would support them on DU should be banned.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts).
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)LaPierre has blood on his hands.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)plus every m-f-er in congress who's ever voted against gun control
Joey Liberal
(5,526 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Both groups need to go for the sake of our countries health and well being.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)they are going to put people with guns (militia type's) in the schools to "protect" childen I will home school mine.
Mr Peabody
(36 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Maybe you don't remember how those two terms got so maligned and feared ... well, their reasons were to them as yours are to you. If you check into those groups, you'll find a lot of great parents and kids.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)no thanks
hatrack
(59,587 posts)You waited fucking DECADES, you ASSHOLE.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)tjdee
(18,048 posts)I am SO GLAD that Obama is the president.
I am so angry I don't know what to do.
hatrack
(59,587 posts)Fuck this.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)OMG
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)That's not what I heard (if I'm not mistaken).......
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)Democratopia
(552 posts)I won't talk to the schools, the head teachers, the politicians, the police, but I have a plan I insist is adopted if we really care about children.
This is the start of the end of the NRA
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)I'd LOVE to see them give it a try!
hatrack
(59,587 posts)They're like LBO specialists, except that they're involved in killing people, rather than killing jobs.
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Democratopia
(552 posts)judesedit
(4,439 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)so you'd better arm up" campaign.
Disgraceland
(24 posts)Every phone number. I'm going to. Public shaming is a valid response. Make them a liability for every politician trying to have it both ways.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)sounds like the very video games he is blaming.
cmf
(1,832 posts)Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)This was twisted display of just how insane they are, and the world is watching. Thank you NRA for being the lunatics that you are in front of the world. Now, no one will be able to support you without sounding like an insane asshole, too.
budkin
(6,703 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)More like any joe blow willing to take their protect-our-schools course.
So now we'll have "good guys" blasting away at the "bad guys" with lil children caught in the crossfire.
What could possibly go wrong or be wrong about that?!
arcane1
(38,613 posts)What could go wrong?
cali
(114,904 posts)armed camps? Thirdly, who says this would even work? What's the evidence for that?
ecstatic
(32,707 posts)I don't have a problem with a psychologically evaluated cop in each school. Arming teachers, however, should be out of the question.
As far as paying for it, I think local police departments would have to donate/volunteer officers, but that would mean less ticket revenue for the county. Perhaps they could increase taxes on guns and ammo?
budkin
(6,703 posts)to stop a shooter. And it being a cop it wouldn't be some random person trying to fire a gun.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)the Mall, for instance, an armed camp. Just a safer place to shop given that mall shooting is going up. Security Guards are a far cry from an armed camp. Many schools already have them.
Would it work? Have a better idea? What? Wait until we round all the guns up? Wait until we have a top notch mental health system?
Forget the messenger and think proactively.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Didn't solve a thing.
Disgraceland
(24 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)ecstatic
(32,707 posts)They're almost irrelevant right now. The pressure needs to be placed on lawmakers. I think repugs were given a clear way out this morning.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)and that brings us around to another problem this country has tolerated for far too long.
ecstatic
(32,707 posts)should be forced out of office. That means that person is completely and utterly bankrupt of morals and decency. Protecting students should be worth it, even if it costs them their seats/campaign donors.
Disgraceland
(24 posts)Sight of hellish massacre moved him for almost 24 hours before Wayne yanked his chain.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)preferably by one of your "penis substitutes"
Disgraceland
(24 posts)kimbutgar
(21,157 posts)A previous poster pointed out that on Scarborough this AM some republican cretin suggested this and this was probably going to be their approved talking point. Except it is the gun manufacturers and Fox who are making people crazy. Wayne needs to be put away in some quiet place where life is beautiful all the time because the guys in the white suits will be taking him away.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)Oops!
And before anyone starts, no, the rest of the world isn't playing Princess Fluffybunny's Big Rainbow Cloud Adventure In God Fearing Good Guy Land 7. Same games, for the most part.
mtngirl47
(989 posts)terrible tragedy for "political gain." Are you kidding me?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)the filthiest form of pornography"? Why yes, Mr. LaPierre. It is. And what do you think people running around with assault rifles with humongous magazines are doing, and actively emulating?
You blame people who watch a movie, you blame people who play a video game, and it's all their fault. It certainly couldn't possibly be the person who actually possesses the assault rifles and use them. It couldn't possibly be that for them, it's not just a fantasy that it is a reality.
A database for the mentally ill. Yeah, that will work out really well.
Here's the part that made me scream out "Because of you and your lobbyists you asshole!". When this horrible excuse for a human being had the NERVE to say that prosecutions for gun violations were lower.
Why in the fuck do you think that is? Could it be that you and your lobbyists have engineered legislation designed to put guns in every hand they can and make it legal?
I had to quit watching it at about 10 minutes in. I can't stand to see more. This was the most hypocritical, self-serving, outrageous and outright twisted piece of garbage I've ever heard.
Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)....and their Facebook page is back up. Reading the response there are just disheartening, so many people thinking this guy is fliping genius.
WTF...I will never understand that mindset.
Disgraceland
(24 posts)As a New York Times op-Ed pointed out, those are the people who are driving middle class out of the GOP. We should publicize how unhinged they are to every suburban soccer parent. Lock up votes in Virginia, Colorado. Permanent minority party can whine about guns all they want if this is exploited right. ...?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Mockingjay
(31 posts)Once you put armed guards in every school, then they will have to do the same for thearters, airports, churches, mall, on the streets, parks and god knows where else..... Isn't this what a police state will look like? NRA, gun nuts are all a bunch of dumbasses.
ehrenfeucht games
(139 posts)MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)And a production tax on manufacturers. We do something like this with beer, we can do this with firearms. And introduce a "required-by-law" middleman, like in alcohol distribution if it's not already there.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Interesting, the similarity in the number of guns.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)it's a plan to fund LaPierre's whacky idea on the backs of his financiers.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)which then funds our roads and other factors of car sale, use, registration, tranfer law. There are 300 million cars. We can do it with guns, as well. Taxing the gigantic gun industustry..and all the adjunct industries they depend on. The funds are many and wide. It does not address how, but it's a model as everyone...the left included...has few ideas. At least ones that aren't expensive and don't take a decade or so.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)The people who spoke out at the NRA's so-called press conference have a lot of courage.
And because of them, the majority opinion became part of the conference.
I do feel that the NRA's call for more guns and its tired hair-splitting on what makes something an assault rifle has run its course.
Maybe it's time for another GOP institution to fall apart like the party.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)kuba
(15 posts)This guy is out of his f'in mind.
NICO9000
(970 posts)But I think it bears repeating over and over:
It's time for the government to call the NRA what it really is: a domestic terrorist organization.
EC
(12,287 posts)they're main objective is to sell guns, so of course more guns = solution. The hell with the fact that this sort of crime should not be accepted as the norm, which is what they seem to be okay with.
rivegauche
(601 posts)I could have told you that's exactly what he was going to say.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)La Pierre has completely undermined his own evil organization and no-mind set.
WOW!
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)If there is one, God help him.
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)The influence and power of the NRA is being questioned, and he knows it. Like cockroaches, the NRA doesn't like close inspection.
el scorcho
(58 posts)Tax gun sales to fund mental healthcare!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/add-100-tax-purchase-all-firearms-fund-additional-police-and-access-mental-healthcare-resources/RMxBLK9S
Ninga
(8,275 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)This afternoon on MSNBC, starting at 4:00 EST. First Martin, then Chris, then Rev. Al, then Chris (rerun), then Big Ed, then Rachel, then Lawrence (who may decide to rip him two, just for the hell of it). By my count, that'll give him at least seven, hopefully more.
2AFE
(2 posts)Seems there should be a waiting period on stories printed/broadcast by the media. So many 'facts' are so often very wrong. They should have to verify all the facts prior to broadcasting a story. I'm thinking a 2 week wait to verify information would be acceptable.
Background checks on those in the media reporting said 'facts' should all be implemented. A person of unsound mind can certainly convey much false information meant only to hurt and inflame others.
We should infringe on all of our rights, not just the 2nd Amendment, that would make this a much more wonderful nation to live in.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)go west young man
(4,856 posts)doors that open to the outside from each individual classroom thereby allowing people to escape in an emergency situation rather than hide in closets and under desks. The neanderthal approach of the NRA is oxymoronic in a "learning institution". Their approach caters to the limbic primordial brain rather than the higher mind. Another paradox is that they are encouraging militarization of public schools when they are the one's constantly telling us government is going to take "their" guns. What an absolutely confusing and absurd organization. Their uncouthness in light of this tragedy is astounding. The fact that they release this the Friday before Christmas also says a lot about their character.
IggleDoer
(1,186 posts)Adam Lanza ... if he were alive today.
d_b
(7,463 posts)it's 1994, baby
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)PatrickS
(294 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Wayne would not be using oxygen or water today.
moondust
(19,991 posts)Response to cali (Original post)
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hatrack
(59,587 posts)nt
AllyCat
(16,189 posts)Who cares how many die as long as the gun manufacturers make a heap of cash? I mean, what is more important here? Money is life to these scum.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He makes me absolutely SICK!