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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:19 AM Dec 2012

Plan B fiasco leaves GOP lost, divided, and weak

Plan B fiasco leaves GOP lost, divided, and weak

By Steve Benen

The irony of last night's drama on Capitol Hill was that the proposal at stake had far more symbolic value than substantive. House Speaker John Boehner, after having abandoned his own fiscal talks, pushed his "Plan B" knowing full well it would not, and could not, become law. Rather, Boehner hoped to use the measure to send a message.

Oh, he sent a message, all right. It's just not the one the Speaker intended.

At least in theory, there was a coherent strategy underlying Boehner's efforts. He would pass his pointless charade, demand Democrats do as he instructs, and cover his backside when the larger process fell apart. All the Speaker needed was his own allies to follow his lead, and give him some additional leverage.

To that end, Boehner tried everything. He tried pleading with his Republican allies, threatening them, and offering them all kinds of goodies. The Speaker made appeals based on emotion, economics, loyalty, and pragmatism, at times, simultaneously.

But in the end, despite all the bravado and faux confidence, Boehner just couldn't deliver. The party he ostensibly leads heard his impassioned pleas, and decided not to follow him.

Debacles of this magnitude are rare.

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http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/21/16065562-plan-b-fiasco-leaves-gop-lost-divided-and-weak


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Plan B fiasco leaves GOP lost, divided, and weak (Original Post) ProSense Dec 2012 OP
Kick! n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #1
Obama has 4 under arms www.ImGonnaMake$hitUp.com said Obama caved uponit7771 Dec 2012 #2
Best Christmas gift ever The Blue Flower Dec 2012 #3
Despite other celebratory threads, we ARE all fucked. We have a wiggs Dec 2012 #4
K & R Scurrilous Dec 2012 #5
Not to be overly bleeding heart, I feel sorry for Boehner. LiberalAndProud Dec 2012 #6
He encouraged the lunatics. n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #7

wiggs

(7,813 posts)
4. Despite other celebratory threads, we ARE all fucked. We have a
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:43 AM
Dec 2012

dysfunctional government that can't get anything done. Public discourse is anything but rational and reasoned.

We can't appropriately address climate change, fracking, health care, tax rates, gun control, stimulus policy, Israel, energy policy, immigration, etc in ways that identify the problem and implement solutions. This lack of capability is what caused our bond rating to diminish.

I'm glad that Obama can negotiate and glad that the gop didn't get what they want. But that means we still haven't solved anything. Exactly how do we come to resolution on issues where each side is immovable?

I lay this all at the feet of the GOP...but it seems we're stuck with them as dance partners.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
6. Not to be overly bleeding heart, I feel sorry for Boehner.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:54 PM
Dec 2012

It's like trying to herd a pack of hyenas, but worse. Even hyenas have a sense of community. The Yahoos(R) in office now have no sense at all.

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