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According to a source in the U.S. government, one week ago, the Arab League Secretary-General, Nabil al-Arabi, told the Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, Jeffrey Feltman, that the Assad regime was breaking the terms of the Arab League initiative. If true, this quiet admission of failure preceded the high-profile resignation of Algerian League delegate Anwar Malek, who told Al Jazeera that his team had been unable to prevent the Assad regimes multiple crimes against humanity and that the mission itself was a farce. More delegates are now said to be planning to quit.
When I asked a State Department spokesperson yesterday to confirm al-Arabis judgment, delivered in advance of the League report on Syria, he referred me to Hillary Clintons Wednesday interview with Qatari PM Jassim bin Jabor Al Thani, who said: [W]hat is now obvious today is that attacks are still ongoing and it seems that the Government of Syria is still not ready to change its course. Quite simply, a consensus is forming in Washington and Arab capitals that the last chance effort to broker an end to the violence in Syria is an embarrassing shambles.
So where does that leave the Assad regime? As first reported by Foreign Policy magazine, the Obama administration has begun the preliminaries of internationalising the response to ongoing Syrian crisis. They are weighing the option of some kind of humanitarian military intervention, most likely led by Turkey. Repeated attempts to get a UN Security Council resolution condemning the regime have failed chiefly because Russia will not give up its ally in Damascus. Cyprus, which is the Kremlin's Mediterranean partner in money laundering and corruption, has just violated EU sanctions by allowing a Russian ship full of "35 to 60 tons of ammunition and explosives" to sail for Syrias Russian-controlled port of Tartus.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/michaelweiss/100129733/war-in-syria-may-now-be-inevitable/
Ok CBS first last night, NPR this afternoon... I can smell a pattern when I see one... the chess board is set.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)I heard on facebook that we already had soldiers in Syria on super-dooper classified missions.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)sad sally
(2,627 posts)According to first-hand accounts and reports provided to Boiling Frogs Post by several sources in Jordan, during the last few hours foreign military groups, estimated at hundreds of individuals, began to spread near the villages of the north-Jordan city of Al-Mafraq, which is adjacent to the Jordanian and Syrian border.
According to one Jordanian military officer who asked to remain anonymous, hundreds of soldiers who speak languages other than Arabic were seen during the past two days in those areas moving back and forth in military vehicles between the King Hussein Air Base of al-Mafraq (10 km from the Syrian border), and the vicinity of Jordanian villages adjacent to the Syrian border, such as village Albaej (5 km from the border), the area around the dam of Sarhan, the villages of Zubaydiah and al-Nahdah adjacent to the Syrian border.
Our Iraqi journalist source in London provided us with the following related information:
Some of the US forces that left the Ain al-Assad Air base in Iraq last Thursday, did not come back to the USA or its base in Germany, but were transferred to Jordan during the evening hours.
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/12/11/bfp-exclusive-developing-story-hundreds-of-us-nato-soldiers-arrive-begin-operations-on-the-?du
pinto
(106,886 posts)"The options under consideration include establishing a humanitarian corridor or safe zone for civilians in Syria along the Turkish border, extending humanitarian aid to the Syrian rebels, providing medical aid to Syrian clinics, engaging more with the external and internal opposition, forming an international contact group, or appointing a special coordinator for working with the Syrian opposition (as was done in Libya), according to the two officials, both of whom are familiar with the discussions but not in attendance at the meetings."
How he spun this into "war is inevitable" is anyone's guess.
(aside) The blog noted in the OP is 10 days old, fwiw. It's a fluid situation, nothing is inevitable. Hyperbole doesn't benefit any realistic discussion of the situation.
(ed for clarity)
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Yup, it happens some times.
Reporting isn't always easy.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)FYI, Foreign Policy is AIMED straight at the Foreign Service, and there is more... the US has threated to close the Embassy, Canada already did. everybody is screaming for citizens to get the hell out, and all that.
The article he cited, which is a LONG read, was published in December... FP has a few more fascinating articles there. I might direct you to Foreign Affairs too.
Oh and I forgot, the State Department travel Warning as of the 11 had a curious para about Credentialed diplomats kidnapped.
Oh and let me tell you go read the LONG policy paper on Syria from the Henry Jackson Society.
Oh and here is the original WAPO story on closing the embassy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-preparing-close-embassy-in-syria/2012/01/20/gIQAhOxREQ_story.html?tid=pm_pop
It is making it's way to third tier papers now.
pinto
(106,886 posts)A proactive move to protect nationals. Understandable, totally reasonable and prudent.
There is a violent civil conflict ongoing in Syria. No one disputes that. The surrounding blog chatter about imminent invasions, inevitable war or such is just that, imo. Chatter.
May prove to be the case or may not. It's conjecture.
(And a personal aside) Your condescension does little to promote discussion on the topic. I'm interested in what's going on. Would like to learn a bit more about the situation. Obviously have some strong doubts about some of the reports. I'm just leery of blog opinion pieces.
They're fine as opinion, often a stretch though in journalistic terms.
But not interested, or willing, to play a snide back and forth here.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)that blog opinion is based on a very long policy paper... and FP has been running material on this for a while.
It is fine, no skin off me. At this point I have realized that by the time any of this crap makes it to the WAPO\NYT it is well on it's way. And this is in a myriad of subjects.
Why I directed you to the places where this is actually being discussed. Sorry if pointing where to go look seems snide.
pinto
(106,886 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)you can find the articles pretty easy actually.
Their search function is very good. Foreign Affairs, not so much.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Nothing I can find on any official Government of Canada site confirms this. They are advising against any travel to Syria, but there's no indication that the Embassy is closed.
Can provide a source for that claim?
Sid
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and it appeared in YOUR PRESS. If they changed that, that is after that story RAN... it was even posted on DU... you may want to look for it. I need to prove zero to you. I realize that you will also say this NPR story is false, so the contact info is for YOUR SAKE. At this point I will give you guys that info so you can do that.
Have a good day.
I mean you also said that things were not going where they are RIGHT NOW.
By the way, before DC changes it's mind
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/318253
zappaman
(20,606 posts)that says the embassy is closed.
Nice of you to make another assertion you can't back up.
Tell me, do all reporters just make things up?
I know FOX does, but I'm not sure you're supposed to.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)What's a reporter to do?
polly7
(20,582 posts)Last day to get out of Syria, Ottawa warns Canadians
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/last-day-to-get-out-of-syria-ottawa-warns-canadians/article2302301/?utm_medium=Feeds:%20RSS/Atom&utm_source=Politics&utm_content=2302301
CAMPBELL CLARK
OTTAWA Globe and Mail Update
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 6:03PM EST
"The Canadian government is winding down the clock on an extraordinary campaign to convince citizens to leave Syria, dropping any assurance the embassy in Damascus will stay open after Saturday.
In an unprecedented month-long campaign that was stepped up in recent days, Ottawa has taken to Twitter, websites and news releases to tell Canadians in Syria to get passports and get out."
I remember seeing it also, but haven't been able to find anything since about the embassy actually closing. It did sound imminent though, according to the article.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Even more unusual, theyve set a Jan. 14 deadline. The subtext: After that, Canada will be on a day-to-day watch to decide whether the embassy will be closed.
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It was edited... I WISH I kept it in screen cap.
This means doing that with the US embassy now.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)and they are still open.
which means your statement "the US has threated to close the Embassy, Canada already did" is wrong.
Again.
And again.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)They're still advising Canadians in Syria to contact the Embassy in Damascus. Those instructions are still valid today.
Looks like another one you got wrong.
Sid
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You can ring them up and ask.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Something which "may" occur is indefinite.
Something which is "inevitable" is certain to occur, as all conditions precedent have been met.
So, can you express "may now be inevitable" in terms of a stated probability within a given time frame, and at what point we consider the inevitability not to have occurred?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)since he is a lead writer for them.
http://www.henryjacksonsociety.org/
I am sure they want to hear from you
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)(and I tend to take what Neocons say with a grain of salt... just sayin')
http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/resources/commentary-and-analysis/2614-michael-weiss-and-co-and-the-former-israeli-general
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and the noise is part of a pattern now... just saying.
We have him, we have The Atlantic, NPR, and CBS...
All that I have to say... well one more thing... we have now a pattern where we are starting the last stage of this. Chess pieces are pretty much in place.