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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:55 PM

Obama's Promises on Social Security... his OWN words.

Promises on Social Security


What EVER happened to Raising-the Cap?
He was a fierce advocate for that.

Raise the Payroll Tax Cap








You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
Solidarity99!
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Reply Obama's Promises on Social Security... his OWN words. (Original post)
bvar22 Dec 2012 OP
jody Dec 2012 #1
bvar22 Dec 2012 #2
green for victory Dec 2012 #3
bvar22 Dec 2012 #4
jsr Dec 2012 #5
99Forever Dec 2012 #6
woo me with science Dec 2012 #7
jsr Dec 2012 #9
ProSense Dec 2012 #10
Cleita Dec 2012 #8
ProSense Dec 2012 #11
bvar22 Dec 2012 #12
librechik Dec 2012 #13
JoeyT Dec 2012 #14
green for victory Dec 2012 #15
JoeyT Dec 2012 #16

Response to bvar22 (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:09 PM

1. Anyone elected President has proven they are consummate politicians. Experience shows voters can never

 

believe everything a politician says, especially consummate politicians.

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Response to jody (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:27 PM

2. THat is simply not true.

We have examples of many "politicians" who run honest campaigns
and do EVERYTHING in their power to keep their promises.
They ARE a minority, but they ARE there.
You can find many in the Progressive Caucus.

The names Dennis Kucinich and Paul Wellstone come immediately to mind.
I will NOT make excuses FOR those who make promises they have no intention of keeping.
I don't, and they shouldn't either.

We should hold our representatives to a HIGHER standard,
not a lower one.



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone


photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
Solidarity99!
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Response to bvar22 (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:37 PM

3. promises promises

 



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Response to green for victory (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:54 PM

4. I don't want this to be a "Pile on the President" thread.

I have other video clips too, but the Topic Du Jour IS Social Security, The "Grand Bargain", and the fiscal cliff.
Lets stick to THAT topic, please.

There seems to be some confusion on DU about exactly WHAT our president has promised on this very important issue.
The OP should end any and all confusion.
EVERYBODY should be E-Mailing these clips to The President,
and their other reps, and re-posting them to other sites.



No CUTS of ANY kind, including a Chained CPI.

Raise The Fucking CAP!





You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
Solidarity99!
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Response to bvar22 (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:58 PM

5. "Yea well, tough luck, honey, things have changed."

“You didn't believe I meant what I said, did you?"

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Response to bvar22 (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:01 PM

6. No fair!

Those are a different Barack Obama.

That was Campaign Barack Obama, not President Barack Obama.




See your mistake now?

You've been bad, very bad...

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Response to bvar22 (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:02 PM

7. Wait, are you allowed to do that?

Use his own words?

Do you have proof that he said that?

Huge K&R

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:06 PM

9. I'm still unconvinced it wasn't an impersonator posing as our president.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:37 PM

10. Funny, I have often posted his own words.

Most people never believed he said those things.

Just an observation.

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Response to bvar22 (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:03 PM

8. Remember when Bush, Sr. proclaimed no more taxes and then had to eat his words

and raise taxes? Well, let's make President Obama live up to his words. I'm all for going over that imaginary, ginned up cliff, if that's what it takes. You can't force the poorest and least able to fend for themselves people in the nation, senior citizens, to make the sacrifices so billionaires can have tax cuts. It's the most immoral thing a nation can do and it will lead to our fall, just like the Roman Empire, and other empires after it, if we do this. Look at history.

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Response to bvar22 (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:38 PM

11. President Obama knows,

which makes the current negotiations even more bizarre.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:17 PM

12. ...maybe he forgot?

I'm sending these clips to the White House to remind him.
Everybody else should send them too.







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Response to bvar22 (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:30 PM

13. maybe he discovered the President isn't all that powerful

and is a prisoner of the culture in Washington?

Who could know that beforehand? We are all told our democracy works. When it doesn't what can anyone do? What can YOU do?

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Response to librechik (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:39 AM

14. I doubt it.

He's a constitutional scholar and had held federal elected office. It's not like he was some guy from the mountains that learned to read when he was thirty.

If he didn't know exactly how the government works before he got into it, I'm even more horrified than I'd be if he was going back on a promise. We can see how fucked up it is and we're nowhere close to it.

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Response to JoeyT (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:45 AM

15. constitutional scholar

 

Can you point me to something he's written in that capacity?

I've looked and looked but cannot find a thing. I'm sure it's just me.
TIA!

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Response to green for victory (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:51 PM

16. Do you have to publish to call yourself a scholar?

University of Chicago said he was a Constitutional Law Professor, though. That seems scholarly.

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