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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:47 AM

Second Amendment Scoreboard

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Reply Second Amendment Scoreboard (Original post)
WilliamPitt Dec 2012 OP
Dems to Win Dec 2012 #1
colsohlibgal Dec 2012 #2
Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #7
rustydog Dec 2012 #3
Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #6
awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #9
Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #16
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #19
Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #21
WinkyDink Dec 2012 #11
Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #17
grandpamike1 Dec 2012 #14
Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #15
Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #10
WinkyDink Dec 2012 #12
Ruttersville Dec 2012 #22
spanone Dec 2012 #4
ellisonz Dec 2012 #5
adieu Dec 2012 #8
femrap Dec 2012 #13
Rex Dec 2012 #20
ancianita Dec 2012 #18
ellisonz Dec 2012 #23

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:56 AM

1. Repeal the Second Amendment Now. Sign the petition at whitehouse.gov

No more indulging the deadly illusions of the gun lovers. We demand real action.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:51 PM

2. 1791

The people who crafted that amendment did it in a world of single shot muskets - how hard is that to grasp?

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Response to colsohlibgal (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:34 PM

7. And printing presses, too.

 

Guess the police don't need warrants for wire taps or to search your automobile, right?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:10 PM

3. You can include the Morther Jones study that shows not one conceal carry civilian

has prevented or stopped a mass shooting incident. More guns is not the answer.

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Response to rustydog (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:33 PM

6. But nearly all of them are stopped by someone with a gun.

 

Maybe it hasn't been a civilian yet (it almost was with the mall shooting) but almost universally the shooters give up when people with guns show up.

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Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:04 PM

9. I am comforted by the fact...

that this massacre was stopped by someone with a gun- oh, wait he shot himself after killing fucking 26 people.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:04 PM

16. Yeah, and when did he shoot himself? Just like all of them - once the police with guns show up.

 

It has been reported that the shooter killed himself just as the first responders showed up (with guns).

Just like most of these lunatics do, when the police show up, they know they are about to be met with unstoppable force, so they kill themselves.

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:19 PM

21. Brilliant, sensitive rebuttal.

 

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Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:09 PM

11. Right-Wingers prefer there to be victims first, don't they?

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:05 PM

17. I don't understand your question.

 

Are you talking about the lunatic like the preacher who said this was all because of gay marriage?

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Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:49 PM

14. Yes, but

After the fact, not preventing the act.

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Response to grandpamike1 (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:02 PM

15. Of course. Police are almost never around when a crime is being committed.

 

They almost always show up after the fact.

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Response to rustydog (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:07 PM

10. Some one needs to tell mother Jones about Jeanne Assam NT

 

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Response to Trunk Monkey (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:10 PM

12. Well...WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put ONE MARK in the left column. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to rustydog (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:45 PM

22. Completely false - Mark was my cousin, read below to understand

 

10/1/1997 - Luke Woodham put on a trench coat to conceal a hunting rifle and entered Pearl High School in Pearl, Mississippi. He killed 3 students before vice principal Joel Myrick apprehended him with a handgun without firing a shot.

4/24/1998 - Andrew Wurst attended a middle school dance in Edinboro, Pennsylvania intent on killing a bully, but shot wildly into the crowd. He killed 1 student. James Strand who lived next door he heard the shots and he ran over with his 12 gauge shotgun and apprehended the gunman without firing a shot.

1/16/2002 – Peter Odighizuwa opened fire with a handgun at The Appalachian School in Grundy, Virginia. 3 people were killed before the shooter was apprehended by 3 students armed students Mikael Gross, Ted Besen, and Tracy Bridges.

12/9/2007 – Matthew J. Murray entered the Youth With A Mission training center in Arvada, Colorado and killed 2 people, then went to the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado killing 2 more. He was shot, wounded and stopped by church member Jeanne Assam. He committed suicide before police arrived.



And now the main reason for my response to your inaccurate post.

2/25/2005 – David Hernandez Arroyo Sr. opened fire on a public square from the steps of a courthouse in Tyler, Texas. The shooter was armed with a rifle and wearing body armor. Mirabel Estrada, his ex-wife, was killed at the scene, as was Mark Allen Wilson. Mark drew the shooter’s fire by firing with a handgun, hitting the shooter but not penetrating the armor, and ultimately drove him off, but was fatally wounded.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:11 PM

4. sadly true.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:25 PM

5. I'm sure the gun groups are just fine with that...

...you never know when you might have to go back in time to finish off Hitler!

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:55 PM

8. Completely agree

With the cartoon. The second amendment has failed to do what its proponents have claimed it would do.

By the way, it's not as though I think our government is so rosy and nice. I think our government stinks to high heaven with all the corruption and lack of empathy for the regular citizen. The government has encroached everywhere with its desire to take away civil liberties, but I haven't seen a single gunman brave enough to march down to Washington to defend his right to not be surveilled 24/7.

These pro-2nd amendment folks aren't even remotely trying to make the government listen to them. They have zero effect on maintaining freedom and liberty.

But, they love their guns.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:36 PM

13. Anyone looking at

 

the First Amendment!!!????

#!


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Response to femrap (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:09 PM

20. That is a strange thing to hear from a new conference.

How are they going to issue warrants to websites and blogs? There is bullshit all over the internets...I don't understand why they focus on that and not the root cause.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:06 PM

18. They don't protect anybody from anything. EVER. They're too cowardly.

When they see their fellow citizens getting beaten up, maced and dragged off to jail for exercising their constitutional right to protest injustice to this society, do they run out with their guns to protect these people from the gubmint? Hell, no. They don't protect anybody from anything. EVER. They're too cowardly. They just want to own guns for the illusion of power they get from it. Period.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:05 AM

23. Kick

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