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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis deadly item is banned in the USA (I own it..I'm not even allowed to re-sell it.. too dangerous)
Someone took the time to create a law that banned this...why? because it might kill children (actually it did kill a few.....totally by accident)
An item designed and sold as a harmless...fun...toy, but which accidentally killed some kids, gets banned, but items which when used for their designed purpose, definitely kills people...... they are not banned, and are worshiped by 1/3 or more of the population
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:44 PM - Edit history (1)
I snapped a screen shot of it, so don't try anything funny.
ETA - In all seriousness, Jarts should not be banned.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Never saw anyone get hurt by them, but I suppose you could.
Then again, you can get hurt by almost anything...
FSogol
(45,488 posts)The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission's Report on them from 1988:
http://www.cpsc.gov/CPSCPUB/PREREL/prhtml87/87042.html
Squinch
(50,955 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)your number is way WAAAAY off, unless you count suicides as 'gun violence'.
Which would make jumping deaths what... bridge violence? Gravity violence?
Squinch
(50,955 posts)interesting stats:
http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/Facts/Gun_Death_and_Injury_Stat_Sheet_2008__2009_FINAL.pdf
It does say that the 9000 number is off, BUT it says that about 17,000 kids die or are injured in gun violence in a given year, and only about 1000 of those are suicides or suicide attempts. Their number for child gun deaths per year is 2966, so I'm not sure what the 9000 number on the chart was or how I misread it.
Thanks for the heads up.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)That's ballpark about right.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)we had them as kids and they were one of our favorite toys!
don't you love the wording - "missile game - for the whole family"!
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)We paid $2.98 at Sears.. The box has the original price sticker on it
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)sustaining a serious head injury from one of those things. He will have effects from that injury all his life.
I don't know how guns get banned though.
HeavyMeta
(21 posts)That and croquet...
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)I got hit in the forehead with a croquet ball ...took me to my knees..and yes..
"it did leave a mark"
FSogol
(45,488 posts)Just kidding.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)FSogol
(45,488 posts)I still miss the concrete and steel playground equipment.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:22 PM - Edit history (1)
and the merry-go-round that wobbled and dragged you as someone shoved you on their way on it
Euphoria
(448 posts)burned when you slid down them after they'd been heating up in the sun. And I still have playground asphalt scars on my knees.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Born in '65 here too.
Thav
(946 posts)thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)They can have my lawn darts when they pry them from my cold dead fingers
Squinch
(50,955 posts)I was born in 1949 and I agree! Well, the hula hoop wasn't deadly.
Hey, compared to kids today, what with all the "dangerous" things we did and played with, it's a wonder we're still here. My God, I rode a bike without a HELMET! What were my parents thinking?
And I wish I had a nickel for every time my brother steered the sled into a tree with me on the back. Oh, and ice skating on a farmer's pond where we, the kids, made the decision if the ice was thick enough or not. Ha. Ha. Egads.
However, I do remember the neighbor kid who actually did shoot his sister's eye out with a BB gun. But they were a redneck family from West Virginia who thought guns were an appropriate toy for a 10 year old boy.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)uncle ray
(3,156 posts)the ban really isn't taken all that seriously by anybody but the original manufacturer. poor example IMO.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)JanMichael
(24,890 posts)I can get parts for a 64 Studebaker Lark too....the fact the car company shut down wasn't really taken seriously by anyone but the manufactuer.
Please. I haven't seen a set of metal lawn darts in decades...my friends with children would not even recognize them today. That's pretty "serious" I think.
barbtries
(28,798 posts)i hope this is a tipping point, and some new laws will be enacted.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)Just three.
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)nt
liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)Still in the box
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trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)I think this might get accepted... the last one I posted got 7,000 likes? lots of people read theses pages and I think the message behind what you posted was great... Thank You!!
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Thanks for creating this.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)made a great point
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Awesome!
NoMoreWarNow
(1,259 posts)trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)Buck Turgidson
(488 posts)I just FB'ed it but I don't know how to give you credit.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)I think that was the year.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)From the Wikipedia article about "Lawn darts":
Shortly after, in 1989, they were also banned in Canada.[2] Since then, alternatives have surfaced that are available for sale in Canada that are made of plastic.
It is possible to import parts of a lawn dart - plastic flights, metal bodies, and steel spigots - as well as a complete set of replacement parts to repair damaged lawn darts, into the US and Canada. However, fully assembled individual darts, sets, and kits are banned from entry by US and Canada customs.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)points this out quite often. ouch. can't pin the donkey much anymore either.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)After all, darts and javelins are weapons, and thus "arms"
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)they'd still be around. But they're not.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Creepy Crawlers.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)Actually, you can still get these. I got one for my niece a few years ago.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Those were the days.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)your hand while the bugs cook? Because tradition is important.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Squinch
(50,955 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)And for lunch we can make cornballs.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)Pink and purple sparkly nunchucks for kids!!
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)I remember a few good wrist bruises too...
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)If there was a NJA it would still be on the market.
randome
(34,845 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)crawler maker. I forgot all about them, we burned the shit out of fingers making those.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)My brother had one of those. That thing terrified me!
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)Haven't played with that in many years.
Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)In addition to the hot metal molds, the goop did smell a little funky when it cooked, but what a great toy it was.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Rather illegal to shoot them off in Iowa. and um I tend to do it with responsibility so why would I shoot something that goes up in the sky if I don't know where it comes down. We did this in WI once. bottle rocket landed on a house. we wondered it down just in case. he blew up in the air then landed. course bottle rocks never work right unless one holds them in hand. so gloves on. otherwise unless your going for earplugs if one just blows up right there at least you lose your hearing but not the hand. But guns. oh totally legal to let kids use those. I'd prefer to fire off fireworks... Especially when the locals don't do July 4th
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Not celebrated on the 4th, did it a couple days early, same with Halloween too, didn't like it at all.
hockeynut57
(230 posts)heavily modfied estes rockets. would surely be illegal by todays standards.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)as a science project. Those were fun!
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)At least that's what we did in my neighborhood. Bottle rocket wars, we called it. Some crazy shit growing up in the '60's and 70's. How did we ever survive?
You'll put your eye out is very apt here!!
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)blast into the air.. Modern kids have never seen a cherry bomb
randome
(34,845 posts)tech3149
(4,452 posts)Pretty funny to see a 59 y/o fart playing with them in the back yard.
demokatgurrl
(3,931 posts)Some chocolate candies from Germany that have toys inside. I can't recall the name and I don't know that they killed anyone
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)In New Orleans, we put small plastic babies in pastries around Mardi Gras. King Cakes. I don't know anyone who was stupid enough to choke on one, because you always checked your piece of King Cake first before eating it.
femrap
(13,418 posts)babies and spiders in ice trays and of course the ice ends up in cocktails. I still get a real kick out of that. I love watching people's eyes get real big while they're drinking.
I might do that for Xmas and/or New Years Eve.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)We have them here in Canada - there was a funny article by an American not too long ago smuggling them across the border for her kids.
beveeheart
(1,369 posts)and inside each you find a piece of plastic that needs to be taken apart in order to make a toy from the various pieces. It's a really small toy and and fun to put together.
Spazito
(50,362 posts)inside. They were actually from Italy originally but uses the German word "kinder". My grandchildren loved them when they were little. They aren't banned in Canada, they are a big hit for stocking stuffers.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Guns are not sold as toys. There was no background check necessary to buy a set of Jarts. People let their kids play with them. Unsupervised. And a lot of stupid people were injured by them, by the way.
Most idiotic comparison I've seen yet in this discussion.
Bake
ashling
(25,771 posts)and other Jart appropriate safety items such as Jart Shields and Jart Proof Vests
MiniMe
(21,717 posts)Loved the Jarts, burned myself with the creepy crawler goo, some pretty bad burns with that, had the clackers. And somehow, I managed to make it to adulthood.
femrap
(13,418 posts)I still can't figure out how I lived through childhood riding my bike w/o a helmet?
And no seat belts.
Lucky, huh?
TrogL
(32,822 posts)We'd throw them over the house to each other.
I have no idea how we weren't all killed.
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)I remember playing with them with my friend, Tommy, and his brother, David, down the street. His brother had cerebal palsy and confined to a wheelchair, but those two being brothers, argued and fought just the same. I still remember them arguing during the game and then David tossing one and hitting Tommy right in the foot with it! (it was summer and we were barefoot). David blamed it on poor coordination due to his palsy, but I caught the look in his eye as he threw it. It was meant for Tommy's foot. Their mother was not pleased, especially as she had to pack us all in the car to take Tommy to the emergency room!!
Ah, memories. And yes, there is something askew about banning Jarts and not guns.
pop topcan
(124 posts)Who are those people?
femrap
(13,418 posts)theory is that over 95% are male and one of their appendages is extremely lacking.
pop topcan
(124 posts)about her unique status. She will be happy to know that her son isn't one who thinks victims deserve to be victims. (What, really, is responsible for the fascination that anti-gun people have with male genitalia?...an envy of sorts?)
femrap
(13,418 posts)short shooting finger.
I have a short nose.
llmart
(15,540 posts)This one has to interject his/her nonsense - even into a lighthearted thread.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)pop topcan
(124 posts)they are child molesters.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)They didn't go out and hire a bunch of high cost, powerful lobbyists to label their missile game as essential for self defense. (And donate heavily to those in Congress friendly to their cause.)
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Then a stupid kid in our neighborhood threw one at his brother and stabbed him in the forehead. And we didn't play ours anymore. I think my dad threw them away.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I assume the lack of lawn-dart lobbyists and the 2A has something to do with it.
pop topcan
(124 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)My parents went to the same K-12 school as I did. During their time in that school, 5 of their classmates (out of ~40) died in various accidents before they graduated high school. 0 of my classmates (out of ~60) died.
So it would appear the safety folks did have a point, and some successes.
pop topcan
(124 posts)friends...
jeff47
(26,549 posts)pop topcan
(124 posts)A good thing.
rakeeb
(201 posts)only outlaws will have lawn darts.
We used to play with defense: you could step in and attempt to swat the jart off-course from the ring in the last couple feet of descent by tapping the fins, (about as difficult as swatting a thrown football, slightly more dangerous).
We also threw overhand for distance, no ring, no defender.
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Circa 1977. I was nine and swinging on our swing set, neighbor girl made really, really bad throw. Straight up in the air and nearly vertices descent. Which hit me right on top o'my brain can.
Kinda scared me, but no blood. Matter of fact we laughed about it for a long time.
I hadn't though about that in years.
My sister had an ex bake oven around then. It's a damn wonder our house didn't burn down. Those things were crazy dangerous.
And we boys used to play army with bb guns and firecrackers. I can't tell you haw many time I was shot with a bb, or had a firecracker 'grenade' go off right beside my head. I do remember we quit this after one of our gang got shot with a bb that missed his eye by about half an inch. We probably quit and had a whiffle ball game, or maybe went and caught crawl dads in the creek. Rubbing snuff and smoking filched cigarettes.
Good times.
Rhiannon12866
(205,467 posts)So they must have been made locally, here in NY. Throwing darts out in the summer sun! Fun for the whole family!