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green for victory

(591 posts)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:34 AM Dec 2012

NIH.GOV: Antidepressants and Violence-Problems at the Interface of Medicine & Law

Note: These excerpts are from a US Gov website-National Institutes of Health--
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/

"Recent regulatory warnings about adverse behavioural effects of antidepressants in susceptible individuals have raised the profile of these issues with clinicians, patients, and the public. We review available clinical trial data on paroxetine and sertraline and pharmacovigilance studies of paroxetine and fluoxetine, and outline a series of medico-legal cases involving antidepressants and violence.

Both clinical trial and pharmacovigilance data point to possible links between these drugs and violent behaviours. The legal cases outlined returned a variety of verdicts that may in part have stemmed from different judicial processes. Many jurisdictions appear not to have considered the possibility that a prescription drug may induce violence.

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...Legal systems are likely to continue to be faced with cases of violence associated with the use of psychotropic drugs, and it may fall to the courts to demand access to currently unavailable data. The problem is international and calls for an international response.

...In 1989, Joseph Wesbecker shot dead eight people and injured 12 others before killing himself at his place of work in Kentucky. Wesbecker had been taking the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) antidepressant fluoxetine for four weeks before these homicides, and this led to a legal action against the makers of fluoxetine, Eli Lilly [1]. The case was tried and settled in 1994, and as part of the settlement a number of pharmaceutical company documents about drug-induced activation were released into the public domain. Subsequent legal cases, some of which are outlined below, have further raised the possibility of a link between antidepressant use and violence.

...Some regulators, such as the Canadian regulators, have also referred to risks of treatment-induced activation leading to both self-harm and harm to others [2]. The United States labels for all antidepressants as of August 2004 note that “anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric” [3]. Despite these developments, few data are available on the links between antidepressant usage and violence. We here offer new data, review the implications of these data, and summarise a series of medico-legal cases.

...In these trials, hostile events are found to excess in both adults and children on paroxetine compared with placebo, and are found across indications, and both on therapy and during withdrawal. The rates were highest in children with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), where the odds ratio of a hostile event was 17 times greater (95% confidence interval [CI]

Emotional blunting

Another mechanism that may contribute to hostile events is treatment-induced emotional blunting. Several reports published since 1990 have linked SSRI intake with the production of emotional blunting, detachment, or an amotivational syndrome, described in one report as the equivalent to a

chemical lobotomy


[26–29]. It is quite common in clinical practice to find people who say they simply are not bothered any more. Things that would previously have worried them no longer do so...


Mania and psychosis

Another mechanism that may link SSRIs to violence are the manic or psychotic states reported to be induced by drug treatment. These drug-induced states often resolve once the medication is removed. However, the full dimensions of treatment-induced psychotic or manic reactions have yet to be mapped; some may continue for a long period after treatment has stopped [30]. It has recently been estimated that these drug-induced manic or psychotic states may account for up to eight percent of admissions to psychiatric facilities [31–35].

...The development of a psychotic episode or of command hallucinations has traditionally been linked to both violence and suicide. The labels for most SSRIs now concede a causal relationship to psychosis and to hallucinations...(more)

Conclusion

The new issues highlighted by these cases need urgent examination jointly by jurists and psychiatrists in all countries where antidepressants are widely used. The problem is international, and it would make sense to organise an international effort now.

Annex: The Illustrative Medico-Legal Cases

Case 1

DS was a 60-year-old man with a history of five prior anxiety/depressive episodes. These did not involve suicidality, aggressive behaviour, or other serious disturbance. All prior episodes had resolved within several weeks...

...In 1998, a new family doctor, unaware of this adverse reaction to fluoxetine, prescribed paroxetine 20 mg to DS, for what was diagnosed as an anxiety disorder. Two days later having had, it is believed, two doses of medication, DS using a gun put three bullets each through the heads of his wife, his daughter who was visiting, and his nine-month-old granddaughter before killing himself.

Case 3

DH was a 74-year-old man from New South Wales with a history of mixed anxiety/depressive episodes, many of which resolved without drug treatment. He had no history of violence or suicidality, and had remained gainfully employed throughout...

That night, apparently feeling worse after a first dose of sertraline, DH took four more doses of sertraline. The next morning, after his wife got up he met her in the kitchen and strangled her...(more)

(More cases detailed at link)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/

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warning label from a Paxil bottle:

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Suicidality and Antidepressant Drugs

Antidepressants increased the risk compared to placebo of suicidal thinking and behavior (suicidality) in children, adolescents, and young adults in short-term studies of major depressive disorder (MDD) and other psychiatric disorders. Anyone considering the use of PAXIL or any other antidepressant in a child, adolescent, or young adult must balance this risk with the clinical need. Short-term studies did not show an increase in the risk of suicidality with antidepressants compared to placebo in adults beyond age 24; there was a reduction in risk with antidepressants compared to placebo in adults aged 65 and older. Depression and certain other psychiatric disorders are themselves associated with increases in the risk of suicide. Patients of all ages who are started on antidepressant therapy should be monitored appropriately and observed closely for clinical worsening, suicidality, or unusual changes in behavior. Families and caregivers should be advised of the need for close observation and communication with the prescriber. PAXIL is not approved for use in pediatric patients. (See WARNINGS: Clinical Worsening and Suicide Risk, PRECAUTIONS: Information for Patients, and PRECAUTIONS: Pediatric Use.)

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http://ssristories.com/index.php

This website is a collection of 4,800+ news stories with the full media article available, mainly criminal in nature, that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) or that were part of FDA testimony in either 1991, 2004 or 2006, in which antidepressants are mentioned.

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ssri antidepressants destroy your brain -
seroxat paxil prozac lexapro celexa zoloft luvox
(the content is worth tolerating the annoying on screen captions)

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Can anyone find a school shooting in the last 20 years where the shooters were not on, or withdrawing from drugs? Real drugs, not the soil based kind the Government outlaws...
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NIH.GOV: Antidepressants and Violence-Problems at the Interface of Medicine & Law (Original Post) green for victory Dec 2012 OP
Misdiagnosis get the red out Dec 2012 #1
They are also prescribed for other illnesses BainsBane Dec 2012 #2
Sometimes the wrong reaction to a drug _is_ part of a diagnosis. My depression wasn't GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #3
I agree get the red out Dec 2012 #4
Exactly. More awareness is the key. GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #5
^^^ green for victory Dec 2012 #6
Breaking News: Eli Lilly to settle US SEC bribery case green for victory Dec 2012 #7

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
1. Misdiagnosis
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:41 AM
Dec 2012

Is it possible that antidepressants are being prescribed when another diagnosis would be more accurate? Depression is an easy out when a more difficult and socially unacceptable diagnosis would be more appropriate. I have been greatly helped by antidepressants and have never experienced any dangerous side effects, probably because I am on appropriate medication for my problem.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
2. They are also prescribed for other illnesses
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:58 AM
Dec 2012

Besides depression, personality disorders and even thought disorders. Psychiatrists don't even now exactly how the SSRIs and similar classes of anti-depressants work. They are supposed to act on neurotransmitters, but recent studies on Ketamine treatment suggest that it may in fact be glutamate receptors that control Depression. http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v16/n12/fig_tab/nm1210-1384_F1.html
Ketamine appears to be the most effective treatment for Depression yet discovered, but it remains in an experimental phase.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
3. Sometimes the wrong reaction to a drug _is_ part of a diagnosis. My depression wasn't
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:34 AM
Dec 2012

correctly diagnosed as bipolar until I went on Cymbalta and was completely destabilized by it. I didn't hurt anyone, but I wasn't acting like myself either and I was in anguish. (Most days anyway, unless I was on the ridiculously happy day. It sent me into an 8 day cycle you could have set your watch by.)

If I had been hospitalized prior to taking that drug and monitored while I started it, someone would have seen what was going on. But with our healthcare system, it's not like there are enough beds for people to take when starting these drugs or insurance coverage to pay for them. And there are few jobs that would have the patience with a worker going into the hospital for a week or more for med monitoring and tweaking. And finally, if a drug doesn't show up as detrimental right away, the changes still might get missed.

I don't pretend to have any answers, but I would hate to see meds demonized when they can be extremely helpful for some people. Treating brain illnesses is a guessing game and will remain one until medical science leaps ahead and finally understands how it works and what to do when it doesn't.




get the red out

(13,466 posts)
4. I agree
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:28 AM
Dec 2012

When I was a kid I was put on a medication that was supposed to work for my depression, it didn't, but I was told it was supposed to and sent on my way. I now have medication that WORKS.

The last thing we need is to demonize medication, I hate it when that line of thinking starts, it even makes me wonder if I am going to end up being considered a threat since I am being properly treated for depression. My father had heart disease, he got a valve replacement and it did not save his life, does that mean that valve replacements should be demonized? It saved his sister's life. Mental illness is a brain disease, until we face that fact we won't get anywhere. I lived a long time trying to go along with "it's all made up", a long miserable time. That's not helpful. The discussion should be more resources for mental illness not hatred toward medications that help huge numbers of people.

 

green for victory

(591 posts)
7. Breaking News: Eli Lilly to settle US SEC bribery case
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:40 PM
Dec 2012

Posted by Judi Lynn in Breaking News
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014344273
Source: Reuters

Eli Lilly to settle US SEC bribery case
December 21 2012 at 10:12am
By Reuters

US drugmaker Eli Lilly and Co agreed on Thursday to pay $29 million to settle civil charges that its subsidiaries made improper payments to foreign government officials to win business in Russia, Brazil, China and Poland.

Lilly's settlement with the US Securities and Exchange Commission represents part of a broader bribery crackdown on the pharmaceutical industry by US criminal and civil authorities as they continue to probe corruption.

The settlement stems from an investigation by the SEC of Lilly's activities from 1994 to 2009, Lilly said, adding the company was first notified of the probe in 2003.

In this case, the SEC alleged that a Russian unit of Indianapolis-based Eli Lilly used “marketing agreements” to funnel millions of dollars to government officials through offshore companies.

http://www.iol.co.za/business/international/eli-lilly-to-settle-us-sec-bribery-case-1.1444006

Where is the Outrage?

People in wheelchairs get busted for growing plants while these criminals walk the streets?

Seriously?

One more time-The US Gov says an examination is important!

Shouldn't we heed their warning

these cases need urgent examination jointly by jurists and psychiatrists in all countries where antidepressants are widely used.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/

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