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I googled .223 rifle and got a picture of what (Original Post) upaloopa Dec 2012 OP
The AR-15 or clone is pretty much the standard rifle chambered in .223 Remington Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #1
I know I was in Vietnam upaloopa Dec 2012 #3
Not sure if this was supposed to be a comment rather than a post, but... Recursion Dec 2012 #2
The news said it was a .223 rifle the killer used. upaloopa Dec 2012 #4
It's a popular model Hayabusa Dec 2012 #7
The news is now saying the rifle was left in his car NickB79 Dec 2012 #16
I used to own a .223. This is what it looked like. bunnies Dec 2012 #5
What compels people to own such rifles? Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #6
they're not good for killing zombies datasuspect Dec 2012 #8
Low recoil, very accurate, cheap to shoot NickB79 Dec 2012 #17
Cue the resident gun enthusiasts crying about how we are demonizing AR-15s. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #9
I don't know that it's the specific type of gun used that's the root of the problem... Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #12
Why don't you try to learn enough about them so you do not look like an idiot. ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #15
It's a gun. It can shoot people. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #18
More Reefer Madness ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #19
The ammunition does not determine what the weapon looks like. FarCenter Dec 2012 #10
Don't those bullets also tumble creating more damage? n/t Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #11
It would depend on the bullet and the twist of the rifling FarCenter Dec 2012 #13
Bad lie ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #14
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
1. The AR-15 or clone is pretty much the standard rifle chambered in .223 Remington
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:42 PM
Dec 2012

the .223 cartridge was designed to fit the action length of the M-16 and is pretty much the "civilian" version of 5.56mm NATO (same as .308 Winchester and 7.62mm, very similar but not identical).

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. Not sure if this was supposed to be a comment rather than a post, but...
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:42 PM
Dec 2012

... the AR-15 is probably the most popular .223 being sold today, so that makes sense.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. The news said it was a .223 rifle the killer used.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:46 PM
Dec 2012

That makes two shooting this week with AR-15s. The mall now this. You think that won't mean anything?

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
16. The news is now saying the rifle was left in his car
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:23 PM
Dec 2012

Fucking easily pocketed pistols for shooting, again.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
17. Low recoil, very accurate, cheap to shoot
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:24 PM
Dec 2012

A bolt-action .30-06 kicks like a mule, and ammo is expensive.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
9. Cue the resident gun enthusiasts crying about how we are demonizing AR-15s.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:55 PM
Dec 2012

And throwing in a bunch of technical speak about guns to make us look like idiots.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
12. I don't know that it's the specific type of gun used that's the root of the problem...
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:01 PM
Dec 2012

so much as the ready legal availability of guns generally (with the exception of fully automatic weapons and other firearms restricted by Title III of the 1934 National Firearms Act).

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
15. Why don't you try to learn enough about them so you do not look like an idiot.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:11 PM
Dec 2012

The anti gunners often sound like the anti drug zealots...reefer madness and all that.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
18. It's a gun. It can shoot people.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:42 PM
Dec 2012

It has the capability to shoot a lot of people. And it did in fact allow the shooter to shoot a lot of people.

What else is there to learn?

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
19. More Reefer Madness
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:45 AM
Dec 2012

Guns are a very technical field and details matter. When you soundbite things you end up with the failed Federal AWB and get shown to be foolish.

You don't have to be pro gun to learn the details and be effective and accurate in debate. Its not like Reefer which will infect and destroy you!

One of my colleagues is passionately anti gun. I have taken him shooting and taken the time to explain & demonstrate how things works, and what the relevant points are. He is still just as passionate, but now he knows what he is talking about and does not look the fool. I highly recommend that approach.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
13. It would depend on the bullet and the twist of the rifling
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:47 PM
Dec 2012

Yes, military ammunition is designed to be stable in flight and tumble once it strike a target.

However, commercial ammunition is usually designed with an expanding, jacketed design which mushrooms on impact.

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