Here is the Biden Campaign letter to the Presidential Debate Commission on why it will not do their debates

[LetMyPeopleVote]

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Debates need to occur before early voting starts and debate rules need to be enforced.

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[BoRaGard]

1. Insist on moderator having KILL switches for both microphones

Or Smelvis will stink the joint out, as usual, with ceaseless bloviation.

[erronis]

17. I'd also recommend a spit guard in case trump has covid (or something else) again.

We know he deliberately tried to infect Biden in 2020.

Guess good ventilation also. A special sucking one around the tfg.

[SergeStorms]

55. The ventilation....

will also prevent the Orange Pig's flatulence and soiled pant's-load from gagging president Biden.

[Traildogbob]

76. His ass

Will be packed tight with Moses Mike and all the Jeebus GQP so no gas can escape. The problem is, he has an anus below his nose, wide open all the time and at face level to everyone. Dangerous to everyone in a room near him. Masks may be needed for the production staff.

[magicarpet]

77. Maybe put an amplified microphone down trDUMP's butt crack,...

.. to prove to the world that if anyone is having a senior moment it is the Orange Turd who shit himself and farted up a storm during the entire presidential debate.

trDUMP is the old codger who has lost all self control,... not Biden.

[Traildogbob]

79. 🤮🤮🤮

“Down trump’s butt crack” four words that should be banned from the world. But there is a long list of GQP that know it well, and love the smell and fight for position while waiting their turn to enter.

[DENVERPOPS]

61. Amen to that............NC

[Mysterian]

2. Outstanding smackdown of the bogus commission debates

Right on, Mr. President!

[Wednesdays]

3. That "tradition" isn't even 50 years old.

The famous Lincoln-Douglas debates of 1860 were the only ones between presidential candidates until Kennedy-Nixon of 1960. And then no more debates until Carter-Ford in 1976. It's been a regular occurrence only since then.

[Ruby Soho]

7. The Lincoln-Douglas debates were not presidential.

They were for the Illinois senate election of 1858 and to the Illinois Assembly (with spectators too) since, prior to the 17th Amendment, voters actually did not choose senate candidates.

Lincoln never debated as a presidential candidate.

1960 was the first real presidential debates between major party candidate. There had been primary debates before but never a presidential one.

[Wednesdays]

16. Ah! So I stand corrected.

There were NO presidential debates until 1960.

[Polybius]

20. Very odd

Were debates even talked about in any other races?

[Ford_Prefect]

24. Nate can go piss up a rope.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

4. I am a former college debater and I am glad that they are changing the rules

The prior debates under the Presidential Debate Commission were not really debates. Despite the rules, the large crowds would play a part in the debates and the rules were never enforced. A good example of the failure of the old rules is this from the 2020 debate

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[jaxexpat]

25. It was not helpful that Chris Wallace, the inventor of both-sider-ism, hosted that fiasco.

But he's not the only one and, besides, they're not debating by even the loosest definition. They've never been debates, just Q & A "lie trading" sessions. The set up has devolved so that, most of the time, the candidates are expected to speak the speech they've practiced, whatever the questions may have been. If a clown like Trump is participating, you know it's baloney.

[Cha]

33. Classic! Epic Smackdown.. didn't the "media"

freak out! lol

TY!

[Think. Again.]

5. Go Joe!!! 🌊 !!!

[Bayard]

6. Trump will try to use this....

"Biden doesn't want to debate me!"

[SWBTATTReg]

9. And of course, this is BS. tRUMP is a coward, and full of it too, would lose in a heartbeat w/ fact checks on

anything and everything he says.

[Ruby Soho]

11. Biden has already agreed to two debates: one in June and the other in September.

[peppertree]

12. Sad - but true

I think it's a mistake to do anything that could be seen as ducking debates - no matter how good his case is.

This plays right into Needy Amin's fat, grubby little hands.

[Wednesdays]

18. Who is ducking debates?

Any news article saying that, that's not part of the RW echo chamber?

[MotownPgh]

28. Mistake why? Do you think Biden is afraid

of Trump and how things will appear to whom? There is no bigger disgrace/coward than Trump and guess what Trump doesn't care how he appears to me. Dems should no longer kow tow to any traditional rules. We have learned we have to make our own demands now. They tried to infect Biden with covid! Anyone that thinks Biden looks bad over this can take a seat.

[ShazzieB]

37. Well stated!

[Cha]

34. I Don't Care.

[peppertree]

40. Same here; I think debates are mostly pretense and theater. Good for a few laughs, and little else.

But our dear swing voters might not see it that way.

And as you know, elections are won or lost with the swing voters.

[JustAnotherGen]

67. I don't care

What a pig from hell that told ~30K lies while in office uses or doesn't.

I.just don't. I'm sick and tired of the five deferment coward.

[SheilaAnn]

8. President Biden is a very intelligent man and I am loving this letter. You tell 'em Joe! n/t

[CrispyQ]

10. Will the Con show up if there's not a live audience? -nt

[PatrickforB]

13. Very solid strategy. For years we have had stupid msm questions that focus on generating shareholder

PROFITS for their respective publicly traded media companies. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

What is needed is real debate around real kitchen table issues. Childcare, healthcare, social security, the climate, inflation and Wall Street greed that is driving it, and foreign policy - Ukraine, Gaza, and humanitarian concerns.

Biden's got the moves, and the Democratic party spokesperson who is on camera is really effective.

[ificandream]

14. And don't let Trump not play any games...

… Like letting him bring in all those Bill Clinton accusers like he did during the Hillary Clinton debate.

[ShazzieB]

42. Right?

That was an absolute travesty. Everything TSF did in the so-called "debates" that year was a travesty and a mockery of the system. 2020 was only a tad bit better what with him constantly talking yelling over Joe and trying to give him covid.

The Orange Hellbeast has to idea how to have a civilized conversation, much less anything resembling a debate, and he doesn't want to learn. The way he was allowed to flagrantly ignore all the rules of the debates, not to mention the rules of civilized behavior, both times was a disgrace.

[The Magistrate]

15. Cold, Sir, But More Than Fair

[Hekate]

30. You are such a gentleman, Sir. I was going to say fan-freaking-tastic. What I want back is League of Women Voters...

They were fair, impartial, and well-researched — and they brooked no nonsense.

Joe Biden is my hero.

[Mr. Sparkle]

19. Harsh but fair.

I barely learned anything from the last 2 debates except that Trump is a complete moron

[rubbersole]

21. 🍿🍿🍿!

Oh, this will be epic!

[Liberal In Texas]

22. Strongly agree! No audience.

It's not a bloody game show.

[Squaredeal]

29. Or a filibuster so the other candidate can't get his point across.

Without the ability to mute the mike while the other person has the floor would just be a waste of the viewer’s time. There’s no need of having any audience either to disrupt the debate. I hope that Joe holds his grounds on this.

[agingdem]

45. Because Trump regards every event as a rally

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I suspect without Trump's brain-dead scum booing/chanting/cheering his toxic vomit, he'll back out...Trump craves crowd validation...no audience..no validation...

[Liberal In Texas]

49. I suspect you're right. Probably a deal breaker for Trump.

But Biden needs to stick by his guns and insist on no audience.

[sheshe2]

23. Don't forget what tfg did in 2016

2016 Presidential Debate: Trump Accused of 'Stalking' Clinton on Stage

Donald Trump was accused of “menacingly stalking” Hillary Clinton at Sunday night’s debate, with even a supporter likening the tycoon to a gorilla.


The Republican nominee took full advantage of the town hall debate format by moving around in front of the cameras rather than sitting on his chair.

However, his tactic drew widespread criticism in post-debate commentary and on social media.

“Take a seat, loser!” was the front page headline in the New York Daily News, next to a picture of Trump clutching the back of his seat.

Camera angles gave Trump a looming presence as he moved around in the background behind Clinton.

"If a man did that to me on the street ... I'd call 911,” political commentator and former Republican strategist Nicolle Wallace said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-presidential-debates/presidential-debate-trump-accused-stalking-clinton-stage-n663516

[Cha]

38. Excellent Points.. TY, she!

Fucking Misogynist, Rapist Bully.

[sheshe2]

50. I remember watching that debate.

I was furious as I watched him stalk her around the stage.

“ I moved on her like a bitch”
“ I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."”

[Cha]

53. Yeah, that's TSF's Dirty Perverted MO.

It got in once thanks to the Gaslit Hillary Hate.. It Cannot happen Again.

[Leith]

48. A LOOMING presence?!

I've never seen anyone state it quite as plainly as I do: He was humping the chair behind HRC. It was a blatant show of rancid testosterone and disrespect.

Since Mrs. Clinton has much more decorum and is more civilized than I am, but I would have stopped and shouted "just what are you doing to that chair?!"

tsf acts like a rutting orangutan. It's time to treat him like one.

[sheshe2]

51. Yes, I remember him humping the chair.

He is a disgusting pig, no offense to pigs.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

70. TFG was trying to physically intimidate Sec. Clinton

[sheshe2]

75. He was.

It is exactly like he treats all women.

[JustAnotherGen]

26. I love this

He's right, the campaign is right . . . The Commission did NOT enforce their own rules. Those weren't meaningful debates - it was a spectacle of stupidity - and that other guy not respecting his opponent.

[Cha]

36. Yeah so screw the "Debate Commission".. they're

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being held accountable now by President Joe Biden.

[erronis]

56. Hey, Cha. Just want to make sure this is your message.

Sometimes asides get taken wrongly, but sorta understanding your positions on some things, I think you're right.

Of course any of these "traditional" formats (including League of Women Voters) have certain built-in "procedures" and it is very hard to change them. In this case (and going forward), I think the debate formats need to be re-evaluated based on the situations. Nobody like a trump has ever shown up before but now we are entertained by somebody who has a fetish on hot-dogs(!) and Hannibal Lecture.

[Cha]

60. This is my message.. I agree with Pres Joe Biden and his Team!..

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[Martin68]

27. Biden's reasons are clear and logical.

[GoodRaisin]

31. Orange Turd won't agree to any format he can't corrupt and control.

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This is smart of Biden but probably means no debates will take place. Orange Turd will back out when he doesn’t get his way with the rules.

Biden should insist on microphones shut off when the other is responding to a question; also, microphone shut off when time expires.

[DENVERPOPS]

63. Agreed..............

The reality is, in today's political world, Trump, and the entire Republican Party can't play unless they cheat in tons of different ways.

Take for example the classic "October Surprise"..........they do it every single election since Reagan in 1980......
With Hillary, it was the phony Comer?? emails bullshit...........

[Raven123]

32. Thank you Mr. President. Live audiences distract and detract from debates!!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

35. Insist on no audience and a microphone kill switch for every debate.

[Marcuse]

74. And a dunk tank for repeat offenses.

[ShazzieB]

39. Is this the whole letter?

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This just looks like the first page. It ends very abruptly. There's no conclusion and no signature. Where's the rest of it?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

47. Here is the rest of the letter

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[ShazzieB]

62. Thanks!

Now that I've read it all, I can say that I agree with every word 100%.

Especially the part about turning the mic off when it's the other person's turn to speak. (The fact that TSF will hate that gives me great joy, in addition to the fact that it's just plain sensible. )

[LetMyPeopleVote]

71. There has to be more control and cutting the mics off is a good way

[senseandsensibility]

41. Nate Silver who has really become a tool

posted this on twitter trying to accuse Biden of breaking norms. He's being dragged, deservedly so.

[oldsoftie]

43. NO audience. I've always HATED that

Cut the mics when its not your turn

[wnylib]

44. Good call by Biden. No circus atmosphere.

But, I'd also be concerned about which television studio should be the location for the debates? And who would the moderator be? Where would the questions come from? There should be no loaded, biased questions designed to score points for either party. No biased studio or moderator intent on highlighting talking points for either side.

I don't trust corporate TV studios to be unbiased on some economic issues and questions. No editorial comments from the moderator on the questions and responses.

So far, so good regarding the letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates. But there are still rules to be established and agreed on, like a mic shut off and when to use it. Occasionally a response goes over the time by 15 to 30 seconds while finishing a sentence. I'd let that pass. But rambling on and on after time is up - no. And no talking over the moderator or opponent when they are speaking.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

46. Dark Brandon told him to shut up in front of the world before taking his job.

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[Cha]

59. TY again... I love all this coming up Again!

[thucythucy]

52. I know it can't and won't happen

but I would love for the "debate" to be scheduled early in the day, when Trump is bound to be exhausted from another sleepless night of shit posting.

The man doesn't seem to be conscioius much before noon, if then.

But of course the debates will be in the evening.

Ah well.

[blogslug]

54. Good

I would prefer we give the honor of hosting presidential debates back to the League of Women Voters though.

Nate Silver needs to stfu.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

57. I am not the only one who likes this shirt

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[Cha]

58. TY.. So Agree with Team Biden!!

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[marble falls]

64. Though I got to admit the twelve year old in me would love to hear Joe say in the middle of a ...

... TFG rambling, "Gee whiz, man, who farted?"

[Fla Dem]

65. Great letter pulled no punches.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

66. I keep wondering if TFG will show up for a debate

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[Celerity]

78. lol at 'slock rocket'

[bucolic_frolic]

68. Trump can debate from his cell

No audience needed.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

69. I am looking forward to that debate

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[bucolic_frolic]

72. Thread winner!! DING DING DING! /nt

[republianmushroom]

73. I like it.

[-misanthroptimist]

80. Debates are a friggin' joke

Ever since Reagan's "There you go again", the media waits breathlessly for some verbal (and usually trivial) KO. When there isn't one, and there usually isn't, they sit and score it for other trivial reasons that have nothing to do with either the office or the country. It's just another sporting event. It should be hosted on ESPN. Or maybe not. I don't think ESPN covers pseudo-sports like wrestling, so why cover pseudo-debates?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

81. The location of the next Presidential debate

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