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Nevilledog

(51,496 posts)
Wed May 15, 2024, 03:58 AM May 15

The Insidious Legal Movement to Make Pregnant Women Second-Class Citizens Is Growing

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/05/abortion-pregnancy-law-emtala-scotus-medical-care.html

Should the very state of being pregnant place women in a subclass of citizen, vulnerable to criminal prosecution or civil penalties for behavior that would be perfectly legal from a nonpregnant person? Judging by their proposed legislation and various legal antics, the anti-abortion movement says: Yes. Pregnant women simply should not have the same rights as any other U.S. citizen.

Take, for example, efforts to criminalize the crossing of state lines for abortion. There is a very, very long tradition in the U.S. of allowing people to travel out of state to access medical care, and it’s so deeply ingrained we barely think about it. Consider, for example, the businesswoman who lives in New Jersey but works in New York City and so goes to the dentist in midtown Manhattan, or the dad who lives on the Kansas side of Kansas City but takes his sick kid to a specialist at a hospital on the Missouri side. A great many Americans don’t think twice about crossing state lines for health care.

Abortion opponents are trying to change that for one group of people: pregnant women.

Conservative legal groups are already drafting model legislation to prevent pregnant women from traveling for abortions by legally penalizing anyone who helps them, a strategy used by the state of Texas in one of its abortion bans, which allows anyone in the U.S. to sue those who assist women with abortions—and be rewarded with a bounty paid by the state.

The architect of that Texas abortion bounty law was Jonathan Mitchell, an anti-abortion activist (and Donald Trump lawyer) who is currently representing a Texas man in his quest to probe into his ex-girlfriend’s abortion, which she allegedly sought outside of their home state. Mitchell filed a petition to learn the details of this woman’s abortion for, he says, a potential future lawsuit. But to be clear, the woman in question did absolutely nothing illegal: Traveling out of state for health care, including abortion, is not against the law in Texas or anywhere else. It’s just that Mitchell and other abortion opponents would like to change that—and are apparently happy to represent controlling (and, in another case Mitchell took on, allegedly abusive) men to do it.

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The Insidious Legal Movement to Make Pregnant Women Second-Class Citizens Is Growing (Original Post) Nevilledog May 15 OP
I hope American women will say no to getting pregnant. Let the sinkingfeeling May 15 #1
Birth strike!! TSExile May 15 #4
Pregnancy checkpoints at every boarder crossing Old Crank May 15 #2
I am so glad to be nearly 45. TSExile May 15 #3
Isn't the current terminology 'birthing person'? Bonx May 15 #5
On this issue Johnny2X2X May 15 #6
Forced Birthers are pushing the big lie that any pro-choice law allows abortion up to nine months Timeflyer May 15 #7

sinkingfeeling

(51,553 posts)
1. I hope American women will say no to getting pregnant. Let the
Wed May 15, 2024, 04:49 AM
May 15

birthrate of the worshipped white race decline significantly in states that pass this crap.

Old Crank

(3,748 posts)
2. Pregnancy checkpoints at every boarder crossing
Wed May 15, 2024, 09:33 AM
May 15

Every airport. GOP will need to set up roadblocks and testing stations everywhere. Have to hire thousands to watch women pee on a stick. Pparty of small government and full employment for pervs.

TSExile

(2,685 posts)
3. I am so glad to be nearly 45.
Wed May 15, 2024, 09:41 AM
May 15

Never married, never been pregnant and proud of it. I will never be subservient to any man!! ♀️♀️♀️♀️♀️

Johnny2X2X

(19,420 posts)
6. On this issue
Wed May 15, 2024, 10:00 AM
May 15

The GOP is way way more extreme than they usually let out. You'll see glimpses occasionally, and it is horrific. Imagine the most extreme position and that probably falls short of what they're goal is if they get the power. I'm talking a 100% ban on all abortions, no exceptions for rape, incest, or the health and life of the woman. And that's just the start. Travel bans for pregnant women aren't enough for Trump and his band of extremists, they'll want way more control than that. In home monitoring, and eventually imprisonment for women the GOP determines are at a higher risk to end their pregnancy. Criminal trials for women who miscarry. This is all on the ballot in November.

Timeflyer

(2,115 posts)
7. Forced Birthers are pushing the big lie that any pro-choice law allows abortion up to nine months
Wed May 15, 2024, 10:14 AM
May 15

It's a ridiculous scare tactic, but a lot of poorly informed voters hear that and stop thinking.

The never ending War on Women's Bodily Autonomy may never be won, but we must never stop fighting.

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