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The GOP assholes will not accept the results of the 2024 election unless TFG is the winner
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Fullduplexxx
(7,900 posts)North Shore Chicago
(3,401 posts)should care?
Will they accept THEIR win? If it happens, by hook or crook.
These people need to be evaporated, STAT!
thucythucy
(8,168 posts)does that mean they'll refuse to take office, believing as they would that the election was "rigged?"
This is, obviously, a rhetorical question.
FarPoint
(12,523 posts)If you must, seek a leap of faith....do not let fear rule you...
thucythucy
(8,168 posts)But I appreciate your optimism.
Best wishes...
soldierant
(7,036 posts)But can we expel them?
captain queeg
(10,434 posts)ballot. Period.
FarPoint
(12,523 posts)President Biden will win the election in a near landslide....I just have no fear that this is to be the outcome... So, I just say we can prepare for the potential violence...do everything to protect the vote integrity as well...
There is money and power to gain by creating fear in this Realm..the media uses it to garner viewership etc... I do not fear that tRump would be president again....It just not in the picture anymore...
tRump's ongoing abuse of power and privilege has been our lesson to teach us where to fix the potholes and build a stronger foundation in our democracy....That is his only purpose and he has come to the end of his run so to speak...We will have the want a be type to follow but they will fail quickly....
President Biden will have a trifecta win in November, House and Senate as well as his second term Presidency...we will stand strong and recover, fix these potholes for a stronger future.
grumpyduck
(6,321 posts)Just more bullshit being fed to the ignorant masses to keep them pissed off and have something to talk about.
Gawd, this has all become so fucking predictable.
bullimiami
(13,141 posts)And that trump cares about them.
Pretty fucking stoopid.
Johonny
(21,049 posts)For themselves. It's somehow only Trump that suffers from election fraud.
Uncle Joe
(58,705 posts)is "morally underdeveloped," insofar as a moral compass is concerned.
With them it's all about punishment, reward and social approval, they haven't grown past that point.
If your social group as is the current incarnation of the Republican Party; doesn't value law, ethics or morals that's most comfortable for them because it's the bubble they live in.
It's an organized crime mentality and they don't value critical thinking, independent thought or even well deserved criticism of their boss.
You can't obtain courage from just thinking about yourself, so unless these people have major moral epiphanies within the next few months, they won't change their stance because cowardice simply won't allow it.
Thanks for the thread LetMyPeopleVote
LetMyPeopleVote
(146,450 posts)Maga Mike will not accept the results of the 2024 election unless TFG wins. We need to take control of the House before the next electoral college vote count.
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https://www.rawstory.com/johnson-would-contest-2024-election-results-under-the-same-circumstances-2668247403/
Johnson joined an increasing number of top GOP lawmakers this past week who were asked if they will accept the results of the 2024 election, especially if the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald Trump, loses. Up until the 2020 election amid Donald Trump's interference, the United States had enjoyed the regular, peaceful transfer of power for more than 200 years.
Before being elevated to Speaker, Johnson was a little known Louisiana Republican back-bencher who happened to be the "congressional architect of the effort to overturn the 2020 election, advocating an interpretation of the Constitution so outlandish that not even the Supreme Courts conservative supermajority could swallow it," according to Michael Waldman, a constitutional attorney and president of the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law.....
"Johnson was the legal mastermind behind the doomed push to decertify the election results in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin," Waldman wrote in October of 2023 after Johnson became Speaker of the House. "He pressured colleagues to sign on to his effort, warning them ominously that Trump would be 'anxiously awaiting the final list to review.'"
In a lengthy interview with Politico published Friday, Johnson was asked if he had any "regrets" about his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election that Joe Biden won.
"No, I dont," Johnson told Politico. "My point in the amicus brief people often ask me about this and they never read the brief was a very simple and very profoundly important legal question. And that is, was the plain language of the Constitution violated in the days that led up to the 2020 election? And it very clearly was, because the language of the Constitution says plainly the state legislatures are the bodies in each of the states that determine the process by which electors are chosen. In a presidential election year, its a critically important thing."......
"And so you asked me if I regret that? I dont. I would do the exact same thing today if the circumstances were presented, because I feel like I have a duty. Im an officer of the Congress and I have a responsibility. We take an oath to uphold the Constitution, and if its plainly on its face not being followed, I have an obligation as an officer of this body to present that to the judicial branch."
Tribetime
(4,775 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(146,450 posts)The problem is not just that Donald Trump is refusing to commit to honoring the election results. It's that his would-be running mates are hedging, too.
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Seven days later, it was Sen. J.D. Vances turn. NBC News reported:
Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, a potential vice presidential contender, said Sunday that he would totally plan to accept the presidential election results if the election is free and fair. ... I totally plan to accept the results of 2024, Vance told CNN anchor Dana Bash, adding that he believes Trump will be victorious.
This is, to be sure, a rather clumsy shell game.
Republicans plan to accept 2024 results, so long as the elections are free and fair.
Republicans will decide for themselves whether the elections were free and fair, based on amorphous and undefined standards they will not share.
If Democrats win elections, the results necessarily trigger questions about the free and fair nature of the elections because Republicans say so at which point the GOPs plan to accept the results is thrown out the window.
Obviously, Vances position is difficult to take seriously. But what makes this partisan dynamic far more alarming is the fact he and Tim Scott arent the only ones hedging and adding caveats to their answers about this foundational question......
But to see the developments this way is to overlook the broader dangers. When a major political party tells its most ambitious members that theyre expected to be skeptical of election results, it reflects a dangerous degree of radicalism.
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Rachels A block from last week rings true. The way you lose your democracy is by losing the expectation that we are participating in an election because all sides in that election plan to accept the result to go home if they lose and to go into office if they win, she said. Once we no longer expect that, we are no longer in a democratic system of government in many important respects.
Once one of the two major governing parties no longer believes elections are binding, then in many important ways, the democracy ship has sailed, because they are no longer competing on democratic grounds. Once one of the two major parties is no longer pledging that they will abide by the election results whether they win or lose, the democratic system of government is not threatened with harm, it is wounded already.