BREAKING: The newly released tape below reveals the majority of the attendees at the Trump rally actually left prior to

[riversedge]

I had seen a clip saying people were leaving early but not this video.
At first I thought--this can't be real.

There still are some folks standing still listening but not many.



BREAKING: The newly released tape below reveals the majority of the attendees at the Trump rally actually left prior to or while Donald Trump was speaking. Retweet so all Americans know Trump is weak.

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Hard to determine what words Trump is saying but I see his face up on the big screen when I fast forwarded.


@waltermasterson

Here is 35 unedited minutes showing thousands of MAGA walking out on Trump while he’s still talking.

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Still droning on about Pocahontas! That’s hilarious! Next comes the Snake story, a “Sir” story and then the crowd size at his inauguration!

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/12/trump-rally-speech-hannibal-lecter?CMP=share_btn_url

[Think. Again.]

1. Gee whiz... why are all those parents leaving with their very young children....

....after he went on a curse-filled rant about not being able to curse?

[Layzeebeaver]

2. I blame Putin

Why not?

[Demobrat]

3. Why can't his supporters see

that there’s nothing in it for them. I don’t get it.

[Irish_Dem]

4. But there is something in it for them.

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He hates the same groups they hate.
He spouts hatred, vitriol, violence, revenge.

And he entertains them as well as gives them validation for their bigotry and hatred.

[padah513]

19. Trump made it okay for them to come out of hiding and be who they are.

[Irish_Dem]

25. Yes he gives them permission to be evil.

They love it.

[calimary]

70. I think that's the main bottom line.

You don't have to stifle that shit anymore. You can "be yourself" (even if that's pretty rotten).

[DoBW]

36. a perverted sense of attraction & belonging

you're right-- TSF is their voice, the captain of their sick ship, even as the movement descends into madness

[Irish_Dem]

37. Yes the cult has merged with Trump's insanity.

Terrifying and dangerous situation.

[sop]

13. These are utterly shitty people.

Before Trump came along most of them were afraid to openly display their shittiness. He gave them permission to proudly show it off. I don't think we'll ever be able to put that genie back in the bottle.

[yardwork]

29. It goes in cycles.

Up until the mid-1960s or so it was acceptable to say openly racist things in public. That changed.

Until fairly recently it was fine to say openly homophobic things in public. That changed.

Trump gave permission to say mean things openly again, and the people who resented having to keep their bigoted opinions private embraced that. But I think the ride is turning on them.

Unfortunately, now we have a new problem. It's becoming acceptable to say antisemitic things openly. That's bad.

[LiberalFighter]

55. Yet many of them hide behind masks.

[calimary]

71. I think that may be why the worst of 'em wore hoods.

I think you're making a good point, yardwork. These folks have been liberated, and probably feel exactly that way. They no longer have to stifle some shitty anti-social or racist or sexist opinion, stuff you never would have mentioned in "polite company" back in the day. Just my opinion here. But I can't help suspecting that they feel liberated to go ahead and be offensive if they damn well feel like it, or if they think more people actually agree with them on this, so there's really nothing much wrong with it.

[oasis]

38. #1

[LiberalFighter]

54. His rallies are smaller. So it should indicate he has fewer supporters.

[Traildogbob]

5. Never saw that at Springsteen shows.

People use to, before cell phone lights, burn fingers holding up a lighter for more, after a 2 hour show.
Fuck you Roger Stone and your mountainous Jersey Shore. Idiot. Nor do they look like they can fund trumps expensive lawyers. While Forbes just estimated Trump is worth 8 billion. Yet he will suck them dry. Just like MTG and Noem would do Trump.

[forgotmylogin]

68. I think many of them just wanted to say they attended.

They didn't want to listen to all 60 minutes of old guy rambling when there's an entire amusement park next door.

[mucifer]

6. So they were bored. I bet every one of them will still go out and vote for that monster.

[Aviation Pro]

8. Their shocked faces and hushed tones

Tells a different story.

[LiberalFighter]

42. If they were leaving like that it had to what he was saying.

Maybe before they didn't believe what was reported about him. Hearing him first hand may have been too much.

[PatSeg]

53. I hope so

How on earth could anyone listen to that mindless rambling for very long? He's not really saying much of anything and any charisma that he may have had before is gone now.

They probably had to listen to drunk Uncle Bernie go on and on last Thanksgiving, they don't need to go out of their way to listen to it again from Trump on a chilly windy day.

[johnnyfins]

51. I dont know

The lack of red hat gear tells me it was a lot of locals just there for the spectacle/trainwreck. It was also chilly along the beach.

Also his constant horseshit firehose of America bashing is nauseating. Its just not true and people know it.

[Aviation Pro]

7. Un-fucking-believable

Stream of consciousness has met its match.

[ananda]

9. Paid

so showed up and then left.

[LiberalFighter]

43. I believe tickets were free

[videohead5]

10. I bet a bunch of them

Were paid to come.

[nilram]

65. And even the paid ones can't stay

[shelshaw]

11. I love that he's barking at a carnival

Definitely his element

[MiHale]

12. What were they expecting?...

He’s been “same old” stuff for years.

[kwijybo]

14. Count the toilets

The porta-potty people say you need one toilet for every 50-75 people that will be there. If you are kind, they have enough to cover 8K, not 80K.

Drone shots I've seen of the crowd support that number.

[LiberalFighter]

45. The venue has a capacity of 20,000 at Lincoln Avenue beach.

[Diraven]

61. But, but the media said

100,000 people were there. Every single news source wrote this in their articles because the Trump campaign said so. Also this proves that Trump will win NJ bigly. 🙄

[LiberalFighter]

64. Yes the source used was Trump campaign.

[kwijybo]

83. Then he had quite a bit less than 20,000, based on the drone shot

(And there are more toilets available, than are shown)

[I am Neo]

15. Same old message

Thats why some leave.

[cstanleytech]

16. This is why he's pushing the one judge to toss him in jail as he lacks anything to get people to rally around.

Back in 2016 Trump had both racists and right leaning independent voters that didn't want to vote for a liberal woman as President and that's why he won then. He didn't have that in 2020 going for him and he doesn't have it again now so he's going to lose unless he gets something to rally and trick enough right leaning independents to vote for him in 2024.

[KS Toronado]

17. Huge lack of red maga hats

Used to be at his gatherings almost everyone wore one, not anymore.

[LiberalFighter]

46. Good points.

It could be they wanted to know more. With them leaving in droves they heard enough.

[pagarr1957]

18. It reminds me...

...of being at a football game and your home team is losing 49-3 at halftime, and people--who paid for tickets to be there--start leaving early. "We're hopelessly losing, so let's get out of here before the traffic jam!"

[KS Toronado]

49. Could be, welcome to DU!

[Johnny2X2X]

20. When Trump started holding rallies in 2016

He came to West Michigan several times. A good friend of mine, who is a people watcher type person went to each one just to gawk really. We've talked extensively about what he saw and heard and what he describes is worse than anything I've seen on tape or in documentaries.

He went to 5 or 6 of them and says he didn't attend one that didn't have multiple fights in the crowd. When there's a line, people line cut, and that starts fights. People push and shove to get to the front and that causes fights. He once saw a person in a wheelchair thrown into the mud on a rainy day and people literally stepped over him, no one stopped to help until my friend did. The people are agrieved, they are miserable, they are angry, and they are entitled. And they don't have any patience for each other.

On people leaving early, that is no surprise. These people show up sometimes several hours early for these events to get in line, it's like a tailgate for a football game with alcohol and food. By the time Trump shows up, a lot of people have been waiting all day long. An it's not like a tailgate of music festival where things are well organized and there are accommodations, it's not organized, and a few porta potties is not nearly enough. Some food vendors are let in, but not nearly enough to keep people fed. From what he described, it seems like a poorly organizd music festival where the concessions and toilets aren't nearly enough and people get angry as time goes on because they haven't eaten well and haven't been able to go to the bathroom in clean conditions. By the time Trump speaks usually, people are just sick of waiting, and many have health issues.

[BumRushDaShow]

26. All you have to then do when it comes to Wildwood

is add the "no alcohol on the boardwalk or beach" ban that they put into place last year and... CHAOS!

[yardwork]

32. That's interesting and not surprising.

Trump's followers are mean people who don't have any empathy for others and are fixated on their own grievances and resentments. Just like Trump.

[Johnny2X2X]

40. Entitled is exactly how he described it

He's been to hundreds of crowded events in his life, the way he describes the line cutting is something. Just a, "we don't wait in lines" mentality. "I'm a rugged individual, your ideas of lines so that there some fairness means nothing to me and is probably a Communist idea." People just show up right before and walk to the front of the line and push there way into it. The security is non existent. And of course people throw their garbage on the ground, waste recepticles are also Socialism.

[onetexan]

21. Why they bother to show up for a corrupt & utterly unscrupulous crook

Who hates them is beyond me.

[Cyberologist]

22. There Were Other Events On Wildwoods Boardwalk

It was a big Mother's Day weekend on the Jersey shore: Spring Fling Festival, Kustom Hot Rod & Muscle Car Show, National Cheerleader's competition. I'm not saying he didn't have a crowd, I'm saying it wasn't all about him. Fox, magas running around branding it the 'Red Wave.' They usually lie about crowd size, posting bogus pictures.

Then he dissed Bruce Springsteen on his turf, lied on him twice, that the crowd size is bigger than his concerts and that Springsteen supports him didn't go over well. His fans fact checked him QuickerThanThis, roasted him all over twitterX calling him a moron.


[link:https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/mothers-day-weekend-wildwood-new-jersey-parking/3853399/|

[BumRushDaShow]

23. I know much of the month has had a sea breeze along the NJ coast

meaning that the onshore flow had to have made it really chilly on the beach with the ocean down there still in the 50s (Wildwood is on the Cape May peninsula not far from Cape May Point).



Back when they first approved gambling in Atlantic City and over the next couple decades, many of the amusement piers shut down to become either malls or condos as the casinos expanded, more and more people started going to Wildwood (or Ocean City) to get the amusement park/beach feel. Wildwood does have a very wide beach when compared to places like Atlantic City.

[GoCubsGo]

24. This is not a new thing.

Hal Sparks covers all of Trump's rallies on his Internet show. It's the same damn thing each time. He comes out to Lee Greenwood, and stands there until the song is over. Then he airs the same, old litany of lies and grievances "like nobody has ever seen before." He spends an eternity complaining that "nobody has ever been treated as badly as me." It ends with him doing his stupid "hand job, hand job, point, point, fist pump, double hand job, point, fist pump, fist pump, double handy" dance, and then waddling back to his airplane.

You can see the audience's faces growing bored, and you can see them starting to file out midway through the shitshow. The ones who stay are the ones right behind him, and if you watch multiples of these rallies, you'll notice that many of them are the same damn people each time. This kind of thing has been going on ever since he started his post-presidency rallies. His previous campaign rallies were also this fucking boring. Same shit every time.

A good description of them is here: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/23/1240154160/trump-rally-2024-election

As is this one: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/01/24/trump-rally-speeches-maga-vibes-00137364

[yardwork]

27. I wonder if they were paid to show up and left when they could.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

28. Same shit, different day.

Like a broken record that hits the same spot where there is a scratch.

OOPSIE!

[TSExile]

57. Or as I said in another thread recently...

...different stops, same slop.

[ecstatic]

30. I wouldn't be surprised if the rallies actually cost him votes

It's one thing to hear bits and pieces and occasional tweets... but to hear his entire message during a speech, it's probably a wake up call to people who support him based on limited information.

[Diamond_Dog]

31. How this demented sack of hot air is so close to Biden in the polls absolutely escapes me.

[dameatball]

33. Wow. Two observations:

1. That sumbitch is nuts!

2. These people attending this crapfest have no interest in policy. They only want to be a part of the reality show and be able to tell their bros, sisters, co-workers, neighbors, etc that they were there. Show up, take selfies and leave.

[calimary]

69. I think your second post nails it.

It may be just a "see and be seen" type of thing. But will they VOTE for him? That's what I worry about. Some of the younger voters haven't yet taken the time to delve deeply into the issues they'd eventually vote for. But I'd be lying if I'm not getting worried about the polls. HOW ON EARTH could those numbers still be so strong for the donald??? HOW ON EARTH???

I realize polls can get it wrong. Some of the talking heads have already mentioned that. But SHEESH!?!?!?!

[dameatball]

75. How on earth indeed? Wish I could answer that one.

[SomedayKindaLove]

73. When you're in a cult

You just want to see the cult leader, not be bored to tears by him.

I wouldn’t take people leaving his rallies early to mean his support is dwindling.

[dameatball]

76. Oh they will still vote for him and maybe donate to him. No doubt.

Leaving early probably helps to preserve the image of him they want to believe in. Just showing up and being able to participate for a little while is enough.

[Uncle Joe]

34. It looks like the melting has started.

Thanks for the thread riversedge.

[EYESORE 9001]

35. How boring

His ’greatest hits’ have grown stale. Unlike Bruce Springsteen’s

[Wednesdays]

39. Like I said in another thread,

that crowd wouldn't fill a high school gym.

[ffr]

41. From what I can see when zoomed in, these are the people standing outside. The grandstands in the inner area

appear to be full of the TSF's fans. I'm labeling the video by whomever as deceptive. Of course there wouldn't be many people standing outside where they couldn't see. Keep the camera rolling while walking forward into the arena and I'll bet there were plenty of idiot drones facing inward towards the stage from the tiny grandstands.

There are always going to be people milling in and out, just check out any sporting event crowd.

[NJCher]

62. no, because trump himself remarks on the people leaving right in front of his

own stupid face. He says this in a stream of consciousness kind of way "why are all thee people leaving" an then he meanders into another topic.
I saw this clip early this morning or maybe late last night. It's right here on this board. Off the top of my head, I can't remember where but someone else will no doubt have seen it.

[Martin68]

44. He sounds like a lousy stand up comic whose career is at an end.

[IowaGuy]

47. I thought the carrion bird circling was appropriate

[Doc_Technical]

48. Listening to Trump's word-salad speech ..

it reminds me of the end of the movie "Airplane" when
Robert Stack is rambling on about whatever pops into his head.
I can't find a video of it.

[NanaCat]

59. Is this the scene you meant?

It's been a long time since I've seen the film, so I may have gotten it wrong...

[Chakaconcarne]

50. They got their selfies...now get out before it's a traffic nightmare...

and you don't want to be around these idiots in a traffic nightmare.

[malaise]

52. Bwaaaaah

It’s over

[Blue Owl]

81. Wish that feeble fuck would shuffle off already

[malaise]

82. 😀

LOL

[brooklynite]

56. I don't find this particularly compelling.

The point is that they bothered to show up in the first place.

[beaglelover]

58. Exactly. We underestimate the effects of his crowd sizes at these rallies at our own peril.

Just like we did in 2016. History repeating.

[NanaCat]

60. Elections aren't won with rallies

They're won at the voting booth.

That's why rallies didn't help bernie win the D nomination.

Just like rallies didn't help TSF win in 2020.

[TexasBushwhacker]

63. Makes me wonder how many were paid

Seriously, if I was a Trump fan I would at least stay until he was finished.

[wolfie001]

66. I detect a lot of cases of gout in those walking boomers.

Just an observation.

[Hassler]

67. Dementia J Chump has Alzheimer's just like his Dad. Soon

He'll be holding rallies in the dining room of his assisted living residence.

[senseandsensibility]

72. It's damning that the "journalist" on CNN who covered this cult rally

did not mention this. It was all smiles and giggles and earnest explaining about how cheato feels as if anyone cares.

[Attilatheblond]

74. ROFL Well, that explains why Roger Stone posted that ridiculously easy to disprove picture of a concert on beach

in South America, complete with mountains. Trump must've been pitching a monumental fit after that paltry 'crowd' and Stone figured he could temper the tantrum by showing Trump how they could fool voters into thinking there was a massive crowd.

[Ford_Prefect]

77. IMO they left because he stiffed them on the per diem to attend...

[dchill]

78. "Ain't nothing like the real thing."

Too bad they don't know that.

[BigmanPigman]

79. I think his sanity will be his downfall

This trial is taking a toll on him and it is clear that he can not speak or think for longer than 15 seconds at a time.

I want to know when the next trials will be held since it will be visible when he rants and raves that he is not mentally fit to serve.

Now I'm trying to figure out what he will do when found guilty. Will he use his mental decline as a reason for his failure? We know his ego is enormous so what would he do to make himself look less like a loser?

[Blue Owl]

80. tRump is weak

Mentally and physically feeble….