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lees1975

(4,010 posts)
Mon May 6, 2024, 07:12 AM May 6

What happens with all of the work Jack Smith has done, the evidence gathered, the cases he has made?

It must be frustrating to realize that all your work has been for nothing, as it becomes apparent that Trump is not going to face justice for January 6th or in the documents scandal.

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MiHale

(9,917 posts)
2. Right!...all we heard for months...bombshell evidence...bombshell evidence
Mon May 6, 2024, 07:27 AM
May 6

Day after day…waiting…now what?

MiHale

(9,917 posts)
5. I know...if ponies are justice and rainbows signify closure...
Mon May 6, 2024, 07:33 AM
May 6

I’ll ride that pony hard into the waiting bow and take all the lumps of derision.

FBaggins

(26,933 posts)
3. Special counsels deliver reports to Congress
Mon May 6, 2024, 07:27 AM
May 6

Even if your assumptions are true - there is no way to block him from filing a report.

Even if Trump wins - there are several weeks between that news and any ability for the new administration to fire him or block the report

getagrip_already

(15,265 posts)
13. Uhhm, no. Did you read the muehler report?
Mon May 6, 2024, 08:55 AM
May 6

Yeah, neither did I.

And we will never see grand jury reports, or witness testimony, or any of the detail that would come out in trial.

At best, we will see a master of fact summary. At worst, we will see a bill barr rewrite of history.

FBaggins

(26,933 posts)
14. Yes. Didn't you?
Mon May 6, 2024, 09:05 AM
May 6

Was it the unredacted report? No… but that’s because the AG kept that from happening.

The current AG is not in Trump’s pocket and cannot be replaced prior to January

getagrip_already

(15,265 posts)
15. Thats the point...
Mon May 6, 2024, 09:13 AM
May 6

It appears the federal trials will not happen in 2024, and may not happen at all even in 2025.

So if tsf ends up back in power it's all moot. Nothing will come out.

Even if biden stays in office, no report will be written until 2026 at the earliest.

Canon will drag that case out for years. Scotus has already set the stage for the j6 trial to drag out past 2025. It just isn't going to move.

lees1975

(4,010 posts)
17. It seems to be stalled out and the AG's office, which could exert pressure to move it forward faster
Mon May 6, 2024, 03:02 PM
May 6

isn't helping much if at all.

I don't understand why we can't get this done before the election.

Lonestarblue

(10,406 posts)
7. If Trump wins in November, his AG will cancel the cases.
Mon May 6, 2024, 07:46 AM
May 6

If Trump loses, the Supreme Court may well grant him some kind of qualified immunity that gives no immunity to future presidents and Trump’s federal cases go away. Whether Georgia would then continue the RICO case is questionable. I wish I had some faith in this Supreme Court doing the right thing, but I do not.

Midnight Writer

(22,013 posts)
9. SP Lawrence Walsh had the goods on Reagan/Bush and the Iran-Contra scandal.
Mon May 6, 2024, 07:48 AM
May 6

He could not bring it to trial, but he did get to file his final report with Congress.

It sank with nary a ripple.

Despite overwhelming and compelling evidence that these Republican Administrations had committed multiple crimes, once they were out of office the whole affair was dropped.

Even the media were no longer interested. They had already moved on to "the Clinton Scandals" such as Whitewater that turned out to be frivolous.

Hugin

(33,357 posts)
12. All of the Iran-Contra documents were literally found twenty years later...
Mon May 6, 2024, 08:41 AM
May 6

Stacked in a parking garage storage room. If I recall, nobody knew how they ended up there.

republianmushroom

(14,436 posts)
16. Could be the same as the Mueller report.
Mon May 6, 2024, 02:51 PM
May 6

The status of limitation is aloud to runs out. Wouldn't want to embarrass anybody.

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