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malaise

(269,157 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 10:07 PM Apr 12

One dead and dozens injured after Israeli settlers storm West Bank village

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/12/one-dead-after-israeli-settlers-storm-palestinian-village-in-west-bank


Dozens of angry Israeli settlers have stormed into a Palestinian village in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, shooting and setting houses and cars on fire. Palestinian health officials said one Palestinian man was killed and 25 others were wounded in the attack.

The violence was the latest in an escalation in the West Bank that has accompanied the war in the Gaza Strip. An Israeli rights group said the settlers were searching for a missing 14-year-old boy from their settlement. After the rampage, Israeli troops said they were still searching for the teen.

The killing came after an Israeli raid overnight killed two Palestinians, including a Hamas militant, in confrontation with Israeli forces.

Palestinian health officials say more than 460 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank by Israeli forces since the war erupted in October.
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Sickening.
Do unto others as you’d have them do unto you.
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One dead and dozens injured after Israeli settlers storm West Bank village (Original Post) malaise Apr 12 OP
That quote is from the New Testament. Phoenix61 Apr 12 #1
The principle of the statement is cross cultural and predates the Old Testament RockRaven Apr 12 #12
The Mosaic command is parallel to the Golden Rule: "Whatever is hurtful to you, do not do to any other person." summer_in_TX Apr 12 #14
THIS malaise Apr 13 #38
I'm an atheist - but the origin of that quote has long been disputed malaise Apr 13 #17
Does your moral code permit shielding groups or nations for partisan reasons? Beastly Boy Apr 13 #23
Your position on these matters is malaise Apr 13 #24
So is yours. Beastly Boy Apr 13 #25
The best response you can make obamanut2012 Apr 13 #27
In the absence of a better response. Indeed. Beastly Boy Apr 13 #35
Haven't they been doing this kind of thing for a while now... Think. Again. Apr 12 #2
Gonna say about 3000 years gay texan Apr 12 #3
It's a never ending game of "I got you last." nt dflprincess Apr 12 #4
The settlers have support from Netanyahu. yorkster Apr 12 #9
Someone will be along shortly Bettie Apr 12 #5
You think it's really that simple? Patton French Apr 12 #8
Well, I'm coming along Mossfern Apr 12 #10
Who will step up? WarGamer Apr 12 #6
I thought I did. Mossfern Apr 13 #19
pics from now and also 3 days before October 7 Celerity Apr 12 #7
Shhhhhhhhh! malaise Apr 13 #18
I remember when the invasion of the mosque happened obamanut2012 Apr 13 #28
Just a clarification: The claim of Israeli extremists storming the Al Aqsa mosque is false. Beastly Boy Apr 13 #34
"Israeli extremists have stormed the Al-Aqsa compound" EX500rider Apr 13 #36
unfuckingbelievable n/t leftstreet Apr 12 #11
Fuck Israel dsp3000 Apr 12 #13
This was happening like mad BEFORE 10/6... LowerManhattanite Apr 13 #15
Correct malaise Apr 13 #22
The IDF shows up to prevent retaliation by Voltaire2 Apr 13 #32
The consequences for the US of current events will be long lived. David__77 Apr 13 #16
Post removed Post removed Apr 13 #20
Wtf obamanut2012 Apr 13 #29
Indeed malaise Apr 13 #30
The bigotry was strong in that one! marble falls Apr 13 #31
Netanyahu is keeping those "settlers" angry for a reason: no_hypocrisy Apr 13 #21
Thank you for posting, Malaise obamanut2012 Apr 13 #26
Israel needs to withdraw from all occupied territories. Voltaire2 Apr 13 #33
A naked land grab. A throwback to history. Basic LA Apr 13 #37
So did the Europeans in Central and South America malaise Apr 13 #39
Exactly so. Basic LA Apr 13 #42
Israel finds the body of a teen whose disappearance sparked a deadly settler attack in the West Bank Eugene Apr 13 #40
So the Israelis attacked in response to the Palestinians murdering a child? NickB79 Apr 13 #41
The teen was still "missing" at the time... LowerManhattanite Apr 13 #43

Phoenix61

(17,017 posts)
1. That quote is from the New Testament.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 10:14 PM
Apr 12

I think they are a lot more about an eye for an eye. I’m so over people fighting and killing over who’s sky daddy is the biggest bad ass.

RockRaven

(14,990 posts)
12. The principle of the statement is cross cultural and predates the Old Testament
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 11:09 PM
Apr 12

by a millennium, according to extant written records... so if they want to go "eye for eye" based on an appeal to antiquity (instead of, I dunno, for example, using modern moral reasoning) they are still fucking up.

summer_in_TX

(2,746 posts)
14. The Mosaic command is parallel to the Golden Rule: "Whatever is hurtful to you, do not do to any other person."
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 11:55 PM
Apr 12

malaise

(269,157 posts)
17. I'm an atheist - but the origin of that quote has long been disputed
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 07:14 AM
Apr 13

Last edited Sat Apr 13, 2024, 08:57 AM - Edit history (1)

The origin of the Golden Rule, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” has been attributed to the Christian Bible, Buddhism, Confucianism, and ancient Egyptian tales. The diversity and age of these sources confirm the Golden Rule's enduing value and applicability today—and in particular, to presentations.


I try hard to live by my moral code and never defend groups or nations for partisan reasons.
Genocide and war crimes continue in Gaza with a lot of Western countries, including US complicity

Beastly Boy

(9,406 posts)
23. Does your moral code permit shielding groups or nations for partisan reasons?
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 08:24 AM
Apr 13
Body of missing teenage shepherd found in the West Bank

After a 24-hour search for the missing 14-year-old shepherd, Binyamin Achimair, his body was discovered in the same region where he went missing, Israeli media reported on Saturday.

The IDF confirmed the cause of death as being a terrorist murder, with security services currently in pursuit of those believed responsible.

Due to the nationalist motive of the murder, the investigation was handed over to the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency).

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-796779

Beastly Boy

(9,406 posts)
25. So is yours.
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 09:30 AM
Apr 13

Which makes the deflection to my position in response to the question about your moral code as you described it a rather predictable response.

Think. Again.

(8,361 posts)
2. Haven't they been doing this kind of thing for a while now...
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 10:14 PM
Apr 12

...with no reaction from rightwinger netanyahu?

Bettie

(16,121 posts)
5. Someone will be along shortly
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 10:23 PM
Apr 12

to tell us that this is just fine because they are all "Hamas", thus they deserve anything the settlers want to do to them.

Mossfern

(2,547 posts)
10. Well, I'm coming along
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 10:50 PM
Apr 12

to say that I have never supported the settlers in the West Bank and that they are a detriment to any peace plans in the area. I don't recall any posters here who support Israel saying "they are all Hamas", have you? If so, can you provide a link please?

Celerity

(43,485 posts)
7. pics from now and also 3 days before October 7
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 10:38 PM
Apr 12
now



and

Jewish settlers storm Al-Aqsa Mosque on 5th day of Sukkot holiday through Bab al-Qattanin (Gate of the Cotton Merchants), in Old City of eastern Jerusalem, on 04 October 2023 [Mustafa Alkharouf - AA]



Thousands of Israeli extremists have stormed the Al-Aqsa compound during the Jewish holiday of Sukkot, October 4th, 2023 [Getty Images]


Beastly Boy

(9,406 posts)
34. Just a clarification: The claim of Israeli extremists storming the Al Aqsa mosque is false.
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 10:18 AM
Apr 13

Last edited Sat Apr 13, 2024, 11:24 AM - Edit history (1)

Not because the Israelis pictured in the photos are not extremists, but because they didn't storm the Al Aqsa mosque.

Al Aqsa mosque is just one structure in the Al Aqsa compound, aka the Temple Mound, the holiest site in Judaism where the Jewish Temple and the Holy of Holies and the Arc of the Covenant once stood.

The Jewish extremists, in violation of the Jewish law but not the agreement between Israel and Jordan, the legal custodian of the compound, entered the site, not the mosque. Bab al-Qattanin (Gate of the Cotton Merchants) is the gate to the compound, not to the mosque. The rumors of the mosque being stormed were just that: viral rumors. This didn't preclude various Arab sources (including yours) who claim to be serious journalists from spreading these rumors as legitimate news items.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
36. "Israeli extremists have stormed the Al-Aqsa compound"
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 10:26 AM
Apr 13

"Stormed" or entered peacefully while praying as those photos suggest?

dsp3000

(488 posts)
13. Fuck Israel
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 11:30 PM
Apr 12

I hate that our foreign policy is handicapped to undyingly support their bull shit religious objectives, destroying lives in the process. We provide them full backing yet they spit in our faces time and again. Bombing a hospital when our president was EN ROUTE, posting pictures of killing families and their remains, bombing Iranian embassies and now this. And we have to tip toe

LowerManhattanite

(2,390 posts)
15. This was happening like mad BEFORE 10/6...
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 12:20 AM
Apr 13

…swooping in, running people out of their homes, torching the houses and cars to drive them out, then hiding behind the IDF’s skirts once they came in to chill sh*t out.

But the world didn’t give a f*ck.

Response to malaise (Original post)

no_hypocrisy

(46,160 posts)
21. Netanyahu is keeping those "settlers" angry for a reason:
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 08:00 AM
Apr 13

to "re-claim" their land under a variety of ruses, e.g., extra-judicial justice, eminent domain, or whatever. They view Palestinians living on their own land to be "squatters" and they must be removed. And as a result, the land is transferred to Israeli Jews without having to compensate for the acquisition of land.

Furthermore, this MO might mean if Israel goes after Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Israel "captures" territory of southern Lebanon, that too, will be a means to expand Israeli territory as they won't relinquish it after the conflict.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
37. A naked land grab. A throwback to history.
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 10:29 AM
Apr 13

It's a hijacking of someone else's land, like our settlers did to the Indians here back in less enlightened times.

When indigenous people, the Indians, resisted our settler invasion and occupation, they were called Savages and slaughtered because we wanted their land.

Nowadays, in more modern times, when indigenous Palestinians resist settler invasion & occupation (and even when they don't) they are called Terrorists and slaughtered, because Israel wants their land.

In the old days, the US sent the Cavalry to back up and spearhead the settlers' land grab and displacement of the indigenous people.

General Sheridan said "The only good Indian is a dead Indian."

Nowadays, similarly, the US arms and facilitates Israel's 'cavalry,' the IDF, in the settler invasion, occupation, and land grab of Palestinian land.

Some things never change--like settler land grabs with US support.





malaise

(269,157 posts)
39. So did the Europeans in Central and South America
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 11:05 AM
Apr 13

And they all used and use race and religion to defend evil.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
42. Exactly so.
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 12:16 PM
Apr 13

And we look back and say what a cruel and horrible period in history that was. Thank goodness no civilized country today would charge in and steal someone's land that way, burning indigenous families out of their homes & farms & stealing everything from them. Surely not.
And surely Uncle Sam would never be a part of it. Never!

Oh wait. We're not only part of it, we finance it and provide diplomatic cover for this atrocious throwback to continue.

Eugene

(61,939 posts)
40. Israel finds the body of a teen whose disappearance sparked a deadly settler attack in the West Bank
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 11:58 AM
Apr 13
Israel finds the body of a teen whose disappearance sparked a deadly settler attack in the West Bank (Associated Press)

Al-MUGHAYYIR, West Bank (AP) — Israel’s army said Saturday the body of a missing Israeli teen was found in the West Bank after he was killed in a “terrorist attack,” as violence escalated across the Israeli-occupied territory where tensions have simmered for months.

The disappearance of 14-year-old Binyamin Achimair sparked attacks by Israeli settlers on Palestinian villages on Friday and Saturday. Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant in a statement on social media urged people not to take the law into their own hands.

On Friday, Palestinian Jehad Abu Alia was killed and 25 others were wounded in the attack on al-Mughayyir village, Palestinian health officials said. On Saturday, Israeli troops delayed for several hours the ambulance carrying the 26-year-old man’s body for burial, witnesses said.


https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-west-bank-7e75e1ef8f5307946d24f8b9a190fd66

NickB79

(19,258 posts)
41. So the Israelis attacked in response to the Palestinians murdering a child?
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 12:12 PM
Apr 13

Funny how the OP and a few other posters in this thread failed to mention that.

Not saying I agree with vigilante justice, but it certainly alters the initial narrative a bit.

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