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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(8,031 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 04:01 AM Apr 12

Indiana State U Issues Statement After Student Made "if you're Black, you're not country" remarks

I'm sorry, but if you're Black, you're not country," the woman says in the video. "I don't care. And I meant that in the nicest way. I know you were raised in the country or your grandparents were, I guess -- your great granny and grandpas -- but they was picking. OK? They wasn't planting. Just keep that in mind. They wasn't making money. They was getting sold for money. You ain't country."



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/indiana-state-university-issues-statement-after-student-made-racist-remarks-in-video/ar-BB1luk2p

Indiana State University is speaking out after a student's critique against Beyoncé becoming a Black female country artist went viral.

According to ABC 33/40, WISH-TV, and WFIU, the video in which the student said remarks such as "I'm sorry, but if you're Black, you're not country" was posted after the singer released her Cowboy Carter album in late March.

University president Deborah J. Curtis said in a statement issued on Wednesday, April 10, that upon learning of the video's existence, her staff "immediately worked with the Vice President of Student Affairs to identify the student, communicate directly with student leaders, and strategize how to prioritize student well-being and safety."

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But that wasn't enough for some people who commented on the post. They expressed concern and frustration.

"I, as an Indiana taxpayer am demanding responsible action from ISU in the form the of expulsion of Asa Blanton from the nursing program. Your statement is nothing but lip service. ISU is a public university funded partially by tax dollars and action must be taken now," someone wrote.

"If your school can’t recognize how dangerous it is to let people like her into our medical system, you shouldn’t have a nursing program," another noted.

"Is she still a student there? I'm not comfortable with a racist person like her becoming a nurse and being put into a position to care for those she sees as 'less than.' She could cause serious harm to vulnerable people," another wrote.



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Indiana State U Issues Statement After Student Made "if you're Black, you're not country" remarks (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 12 OP
Just OMG, and she's becoming a nurse with responsibility helping others... wcmagumba Apr 12 #1
by the end of her rant, you can see she's enraged. BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 12 #2
The contempt she has in her voice is chilling Johnny2X2X Apr 12 #27
Good grief, the ignorance is appalling NanaCat Apr 12 #3
Where I Was Heading ProfessorGAC Apr 12 #14
My sister-in-law a long time ago taught nursing at Indiana State. Emile Apr 12 #4
KKK had a strong hold in Indiana. I think there was a governor that was KKK. LiberalFighter Apr 12 #38
I remember a coworker back in the 70's Emile Apr 12 #40
Public universities are very limited by the First Amendment in spooky3 Apr 12 #5
That is my thought exboyfil Apr 12 #20
I suspect she will not be given interviews because of this video. spooky3 Apr 12 #21
Is she part of John Robert's "This isn't a racist country anymore"? Ray Bruns Apr 12 #6
What the hell? Demanding that ISU expel her? No freaking way. Goodheart Apr 12 #7
Let me try to convince you otherwise. yardwork Apr 12 #15
If that was all she said, maybe Johnny2X2X Apr 12 #24
Terrible Interpretation UncleTomsEvilBrother Apr 12 #30
I agree. meadowlander Apr 12 #41
I hate country music but I'm so happy Beyonce "invaded" the genre. live love laugh Apr 12 #8
She can't be expelled over that. Goodheart Apr 12 #9
Right, because only progressives that say stupid stuff will be punished maxrandb Apr 12 #12
That's not why. Goodheart Apr 12 #13
It depends on the program she's in. yardwork Apr 12 #17
It's Indiana State U, not IU. Nt spooky3 Apr 12 #22
Sorry, my mistake. My point stands. yardwork Apr 12 #34
Jesus, the statement could have at least addressed intheflow Apr 12 #10
Yes, and also the other bigoted and historically inaccurate things she said. yardwork Apr 12 #16
Charlie Pride malaise Apr 12 #11
Yup. Dr. Strange Apr 12 #26
Charlie was on the playlist for every rural ar in the malaise Apr 12 #32
While I find Beyonces song tone deaf and boring edisdead Apr 12 #18
A lot of stuff people call racism is just run of the mill bigotry. Iggo Apr 12 #19
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong... Hugin Apr 12 #23
If she's too stupid to understand "locker talk"doesn't belong on social media haele Apr 12 #25
It's been white supremacist genre for decades. RandySF Apr 12 #29
Can I say "If you're country, you're probably an insurrectionist"? RandySF Apr 12 #28
Oh no! How DARE black people have cross-over hits and make music in certain genres! sakabatou Apr 12 #31
Charley Pride Deep State Witch Apr 12 #33
Since when does a college have any obligation whatsoever to respond to stupid shit one of its students says? Silent3 Apr 12 #35
We were all admonished in another thread to reach out to college students, MorbidButterflyTat Apr 12 #36
The last paragraph is how I feel. LiberalFighter Apr 12 #37
I wonder if she has any instructors or fellow students that are minority? LiberalFighter Apr 12 #39
She's probably too isolated in all-White rural culture to know maxsolomon Apr 12 #42

wcmagumba

(2,889 posts)
1. Just OMG, and she's becoming a nurse with responsibility helping others...
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 04:31 AM
Apr 12

Guess she'll be looking for a job in a clinic with a "whites only" sign on the door...jeez, what a loser...

Johnny2X2X

(19,107 posts)
27. The contempt she has in her voice is chilling
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 01:03 PM
Apr 12

Just appaling. Girl is reaping what she has sown right now. What a racist POS.

NanaCat

(1,230 posts)
3. Good grief, the ignorance is appalling
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 06:05 AM
Apr 12

Does this utter moron really think the white trash plantation owners were planting seeds? No, you ignorant traitor trash, the slaves were doing the planting and the picking while the slave owners sat on their bums reaping the rewards of that work.

I hope she's expelled for being as stupid as she is bigoted.

ProfessorGAC

(65,138 posts)
14. Where I Was Heading
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 07:40 AM
Apr 12

Beyonce is in her early 40s. That would mean her grandparents were likely born in the 1930s.
This moron mentions her grandparents were owned as slaves. 70 years after the Civil War.
She's a racist nut, but she's obviously incapable of simple arithmetic.
Too stupid to be a BSRN.

LiberalFighter

(51,027 posts)
38. KKK had a strong hold in Indiana. I think there was a governor that was KKK.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 03:37 PM
Apr 12

Indiana still has a long ways before racism doesn't have an imprint.

Emile

(22,876 posts)
40. I remember a coworker back in the 70's
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 04:10 PM
Apr 12

who got in trouble at the factory I worked at for handing out KKK literature at work. I think he got three days off work for punishment. Another time a white girl got into a screaming match with a black girl and both were sent home. That night someone lit three wooden crosses in the front lawn of the factory that faced a US highway. Racism in Indiana is not near what it use to be, but from this article it's apparently still showing it's ugly head every now and then.

spooky3

(34,466 posts)
5. Public universities are very limited by the First Amendment in
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 06:22 AM
Apr 12

Responding to incidents like this, especially when the student doesn’t take or threaten any particular action against someone. People should read up on these cases.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
20. That is my thought
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 12:22 PM
Apr 12

Now the nursing license is a different matter. How can society be sure she will render professional care to black patients. From an employer's perspective, this video could fuel future potential liability and loss of confidence in the provider.

spooky3

(34,466 posts)
21. I suspect she will not be given interviews because of this video.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 12:25 PM
Apr 12

Potential employers won’t tell her why (they don’t have to) and will avoid the liability problem.

Goodheart

(5,335 posts)
7. What the hell? Demanding that ISU expel her? No freaking way.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 06:56 AM
Apr 12

I certainly don't agree with what she said, but as a public university ISU should uphold her right to free speech. And I don't buy that just because she thinks Beyonce is not a country singer she couldn't be trusted to provide good health care to patients.

I seem to recall many African Americans complaining about "cultural appropriation" when whites took up rap, or when Paul Simon sold an album of African music. Same difference, until you convince me otherwise.

yardwork

(61,698 posts)
15. Let me try to convince you otherwise.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 09:19 AM
Apr 12

What we know as "country" music has deep roots in African American and Spanish culture. American country music is a melding of British Isles folk music, African instruments and rhythms, and Spanish instruments and rhythms. The banjo is descended from an African instrument. The guitar was brought by Spaniards.

This misconception that country music is all-white has its roots in segregation. Black musicians in the U.S. helped create every uniquely American type of music, from jazz to gospel to rock to pop to blue grass to country.

Simply put, none of those uniquely American types of music would exist without Black Americans.

Johnny2X2X

(19,107 posts)
24. If that was all she said, maybe
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 12:45 PM
Apr 12

That was way beynd just saying, "If you're black, you aint country." She went to other places about picking cotton and your grandparents being bought and sold.

While I don't know about expulsion, I could see that this violated the code of conduct she agreed to adhere to as a student. This was way more than one sentence.

30. Terrible Interpretation
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 01:18 PM
Apr 12

If you'd watched the video, the complaints don't come from anything about Beyonce' but the other hateful racist comments she made.

For you to minimize the actual racism and spin it about cultural appropriation is part of the problem cited in conversations regarding the evil nature of racism.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
41. I agree.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 04:18 PM
Apr 12

College is where you go to learn, often independently of the context you grew up in for the first time, and part of learning is fucking up and getting smacked down and not making those mistakes again. If you expel people from college for saying stupid things, you create a chilling effect on speech which means festering bullshit like this is never aired and confronted.

And it's the job of employers to vet her to ensure she doesn't become a nurse with racist attitudes not the job of universities to deny her access to education to gate-keep the industry.

live love laugh

(13,124 posts)
8. I hate country music but I'm so happy Beyonce "invaded" the genre.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 06:57 AM
Apr 12

They’ve gone from uproar to uproar. They hated that the little mermaid was cast as black now this.

Fuck them.

PS: Expulsion will do no more to fix this problem than training police does. Disgusting people pretty much stay that way.

maxrandb

(15,347 posts)
12. Right, because only progressives that say stupid stuff will be punished
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 07:23 AM
Apr 12

Can't wait to see this young lady dragged in front of Alyss Stefanik's congressional committee to get grilled about "bias" on college campuses.

I won't hold my breath.

Goodheart

(5,335 posts)
13. That's not why.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 07:26 AM
Apr 12

She can't be expelled over that because it's her free speech right to assert that Beyonce isn't a country singer. Such a statement doesn't threaten or promote violence nor does it impinge on any other person's rights.



yardwork

(61,698 posts)
17. It depends on the program she's in.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 09:28 AM
Apr 12

I don't know if the IU school of nursing has requirements that their students maintain a high level of professionalism and ethics.

Her grossly bigoted and ignorant statements (and I'm talking about the latter part of her comments, not the earlier part that the media are mentioning but the part where she says Beyoncé's grandparents were slaves who didn't contribute anything) might have crossed the line for IU's nursing program.

In any case, her stupidity in putting her bigoted comments out on the internet will follow her and definitely affect her career.

intheflow

(28,497 posts)
10. Jesus, the statement could have at least addressed
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 07:03 AM
Apr 12

the historical inaccuracy by noting how contemporary country music has stolen instruments and rhythms from enslaved Africans. It’s not enough to denounce racism, you need to educate people about why it’s ignorant as well as racist.

yardwork

(61,698 posts)
16. Yes, and also the other bigoted and historically inaccurate things she said.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 09:23 AM
Apr 12

The statement that Beyoncé's grandparents were slaves and that slaves didn't plant crops or contribute beyond "picking" is breathtakingly offensive and inaccurate. It's far worse than her uninformed comment about country not being Black.

edisdead

(1,956 posts)
18. While I find Beyonces song tone deaf and boring
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 09:28 AM
Apr 12

While I find Beyonces song tone deaf and boring this lady’s take is ridiculously racist and stupid.

Iggo

(47,563 posts)
19. A lot of stuff people call racism is just run of the mill bigotry.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 09:32 AM
Apr 12

But right here we have some bona fide A-1 American-style racism, kids.

You ‘bout to get kicked outa school, hon.

Hugin

(33,189 posts)
23. Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong...
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 12:43 PM
Apr 12

Wasn’t there a point where all of these gidgets thought Beyoncé was “white”?

haele

(12,673 posts)
25. If she's too stupid to understand "locker talk"doesn't belong on social media
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 12:54 PM
Apr 12

Where everyone can see it and be able to judge your character based on it - forever - she's too stupid to realize she's set herself up to be a walking medical lawsuit waiting to happen if any of her future employers look. And Medical employers do tend to look at Social Media if their hire is going to be working with the public in a critical capacity like Nurse or Doctor

Racist idiots like her are why medical outcomes for patients of color to be more complicated and worse - because of the racist plantation owner attitude that most people with Black or Native ancestors are at best only a few generations from the unskilled, uneducated workers who bred like animals to become hardier or stronger; so even if they're well off or educated now, they must be exaggerating if they come in with a complaint.

Where does she think Country Music - especially Cowboy Swing or Country Blues - comes from?

Haele

Silent3

(15,257 posts)
35. Since when does a college have any obligation whatsoever to respond to stupid shit one of its students says?
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 01:39 PM
Apr 12

If we were talking about something said in a speech given at ISU, or some other activity sponsored or promoted by ISU, that would be one thing.

But this is, as far as I can tell, a personal social media post made by someone who happens to be a student at ISU. Why does anyone expect the university to apologize for it, or go further and assume the job of disciplining the student for it?

MorbidButterflyTat

(1,846 posts)
36. We were all admonished in another thread to reach out to college students,
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 03:18 PM
Apr 12

try to understand and educate them.

So difficult to keep up.

maxsolomon

(33,378 posts)
42. She's probably too isolated in all-White rural culture to know
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 05:50 PM
Apr 12

that "Country" is an insult in African American culture.

But she's white and rural, so let's all respect her resentments. She is, after all, a "Real American."

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