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Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:51 AM

Right Wing Whackjob: Obamacare will be used to take your guns


from Right Wing Watch:


Larry Pratt: Obamacare Will 'Take Away Your Guns'
Submitted by Brian Tashman on Tuesday, 11/20/2012 1:55 pm


The leader of the Religious Right gun group Gun Owners of America is warning that the government, through the health care reform law and a new service program, is going after everyday Americans. Pratt, the organization’s executive director who has ties to white supremacists, appeared on VCY America’s Crosstalk to float a number of conspiracies. Pratt alleged that the left is to blame for the Benghazi attack because of its “profound dislike of self-defense” and refusal to “believe in self-defense either personally or as a matter of national self-defense.”

Later, he also spoke to a caller about the latest right-wing conspiracy that FEMA Corps, a program dedicated to training “young volunteers to physically and psychologically handle the demands of working in hazardous areas,” is actually an armed brigade that may be used to persecute political opponents.

Caller: They have this website, “FEMA Corps First Graduating Class,” somebody found it on ItMakesSenseBlog.com and it was like 231 kids and they’ve got 2,500 armored fighting vehicles ready to go, I was just wondering if you have spotted any of that information yet.

Pratt: Now that is very interesting that FEMA would have armored personnel carriers, that is what it sounds like you are describing, is that helpful in fighting the aftermath of a Hurricane? That’s really amazing. It shows the total disconnect of the federal government from the Constitution.


But Pratt wasn’t done yet, as he went on to say that Obamacare will help the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to “take away your guns.”

There’s a big one that doesn’t get much attention as a gun measure but it is, and that’s Obamacare. Obamacare among its many unconstitutional aspects, I’m sorry Supreme Court, has made privacy something that only applies between consenting adults but not certainly our relationship with the government. It says that all of our medical records are available to be pawed through by bureaucrats somewhere in Washington, looking for a reason to disenfranchise gun owners, to say ‘oh you have a medical diagnosis that means you might be a danger to yourself or others so we’re going to come and knock on the door for the BATF to take away your guns.’


Of course, the law that screens out people such as mentally ill individuals through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System to prevent them from purchasing guns was signed by President Bush, and the health care reform law explicitly does not allow for a gigantic gun owner database or discrimination against people who own guns: ........................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pratt-obamacare-take-away-your-guns



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marmar Nov 2012 OP
Turbineguy Nov 2012 #1
GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #2
dawg Nov 2012 #3
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #5
Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #4
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #6
safeinOhio Nov 2012 #7
aikoaiko Nov 2012 #10
Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #8
pinto Nov 2012 #9
Yavin4 Nov 2012 #11
aikoaiko Nov 2012 #12

Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:21 AM

1. Anything

to keep from having to go out and find a real job.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:46 AM

2. I kinda hope he's right.

Whack jobs shouldn't be armed.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:47 AM

3. How stupid!

Why would we use Obamacare for that when we could just as easily use Agenda 21?

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Response to dawg (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:26 PM

5. Agenda 21?

Why use Agenda 21 when EVERYONE KNOWS that President Obama is going to suspend the U.S. Constitution so that he can oersonally go house to house anf get our guns?

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:01 PM

4. Ahhh I had this argument with a friend a few months back

because when they went to the Doctor, they were asked if there were guns in the house (they also asked if they smoked, drank alcohol and had fire detectors, but I digress).

I explained that these were safety questions and if they answered in the affirmative, then safety literature would have been given. End of story.

Oh no, the gubmint is using Obamacare to find out where the guns are so they can snatch them away.

Oh the stupid, i burns.

But according to the Affordable Care Act page 2,037, line 23

Provision 1: Wellness and prevention programs may not require the disclosure or collection of information relating to the presence or storage of a lawfully possessed firearm or the use of a firearm.

Provision 2: You can’t collect data related to owning or using firearms.

Provision 3: You can’t use or maintain records of individual ownership or possession of firearms or ammunition.

Provision 4: You can't determine rates or eligibility for health insurance based on gun ownership.

Provision 5: Individuals do not have to disclose they own a gun

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:30 PM

6. But ... But ...

Since the word firearms is in the Act and EVERYONE KNOWS President Obama is a liar; everywhere that says "you can't" means "you must."

EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:01 PM

7. Bet them.

$1,000.00, you get it if the government comes to take away any gun you legally own now while Obama is in office. I get it if the don't.

Tried this on people that swear he's coming for your guns and not one of them will take my bet.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 02:13 PM

10. Thanks for posting the provisions related to firearms.


I wonder if provision 1 will hold up. A Florida doctor won a case to ask about guns on intake forms based on 1st amendment grounds.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:05 PM

8. If doctors performed surgery with firearms

why then, yes, I suppose Obamacare would.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:49 PM

9. LOL. Hey Mr. Pratt, fwiw ->

An Innovative Cost-Saving Partnership to Strengthen Disaster Response and Expand Opportunities for Young People

Benefits to Disaster Survivors, Communities and the Taxpayer

This innovative partnership is a win all around - benefiting communities and individuals affected by disasters; disaster response organizations; those who serve, and the taxpayer.

•Strengthening the Nation’s Disaster Response Capacity: The partnership will provide a trained and reliable resource dedicated to support disaster operations, while enhancing the entire emergency management workforce.

•Achieving Significant Cost Savings to the Taxpayer: This partnership is projected to achieve significant cost savings by using a cost-effective approach to providing disaster services.

•Creating Pathways to Work for Young People: By providing training, experience, and educational opportunity, the partnership will prepare thousands of young people for careers in emergency management and related fields.

•Promoting an Ethic of National Service: The partnership will strengthen our nation’s culture of service and civic engagement by mobilizing corps members and community volunteers to provide critical disaster services.

•Modernizing Government Operations to Improve Performance: By coordinating between agencies, CNCS and FEMA will advance the President’s management goals of working across government, managing across sectors, and promoting efficiency.

http://www.fema.gov/fema-corps

I'd wager you thought the Peace Corps was a secret government plot as well. ~ pinto

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 02:17 PM

11. We Really Need To Develop a Safe Penis Enlargement Pill

Once we do, the gun nuts will cease to exist.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 02:22 PM

12. Larry Pratt is an idiot. nt


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