Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 08:09 PM Dec 2011

Thousands of birds make crash landing in US

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/international/2011/December/international_December544.xml&section=international

(AP)

15 December 2011, 10:57 PM

ST. GEORGE, Utah — Thousands of migratory birds died on impact after apparently mistaking a Wal-Mart parking lot and other areas of southern Utah for bodies of water and plummeting to the ground in what one wildlife expert called the worst downing she’s ever seen.

Crews went to work cleaning up the dead birds and rescuing the survivors after the creatures crash-landed in the St. George area Monday night.

By Tuesday evening, volunteers had rescued more than 2,000 birds, releasing them into nearby bodies of water.

“They’re just everywhere,” said Teresa Griffin, wildlife program manager for the Utah Department of Wildlife Resource’s southern region. “It’s been nonstop. All our employees are driving around picking them up, and we’ve got so many people coming to our office and dropping them off.”

19 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Thousands of birds make crash landing in US (Original Post) NNN0LHI Dec 2011 OP
This is really, really strange. When do huge flocks of birds mistake parking lots for water? Weird. valerief Dec 2011 #1
Have you ever flown in a small aircraft? arbusto_baboso Dec 2011 #2
Birds are smarter than pilots. And with all our parking lots, then it s/b valerief Dec 2011 #5
Birds don't see things the way we do. GoCubsGo Dec 2011 #16
So because we have so many parking lots it's happening all the time? nt valerief Dec 2011 #17
We don't have large flocks of migragting grebes flying over large parking lots... GoCubsGo Dec 2011 #18
Thanks valerief Dec 2011 #19
From high up, with right light conditions nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #3
Birds are smarter than people and have way better eyesight. They fly for real. nt valerief Dec 2011 #7
Yes, but that is the issue nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #10
Once a few birds smack down on the asphalt kenny blankenship Dec 2011 #9
Sounds right to me. nt Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #12
This is nature's commentary on Wal-Mart. AtomicKitten Dec 2011 #4
Watch out for falling...birds. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #6
As God is my witness I thought.... underpants Dec 2011 #8
Was Les Nessman and the WKRP news chopper anywhere in the vicinity? Joe Shlabotnik Dec 2011 #11
Mirage? Cleita Dec 2011 #13
How do we know the birds weren't trying to attack Walmart for stealing their eggs Tyrs WolfDaemon Dec 2011 #14
I think they were protesting how the stock market works Dragonbreathp9d Dec 2011 #15

arbusto_baboso

(7,162 posts)
2. Have you ever flown in a small aircraft?
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 08:16 PM
Dec 2011

Human pilots frequently lose track of the horizon, the surface of the ocean versus sky, and many other things. It's damn tricky up there, and even with a bird's superior vision, I can see how things like this would happen.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
16. Birds don't see things the way we do.
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 09:18 AM
Dec 2011

They see a wider range of the light spectrum than do humans. And, given the position of their eyes in their heads, they have a different field of vision. Any of that can muck up what they're seeing from thousands of feet in the air during a storm. Don't assume that animals see things as humans do, because with the exception of other primates, they don't.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
18. We don't have large flocks of migragting grebes flying over large parking lots...
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 12:01 AM
Dec 2011

...just as a storm is hitting all the time. As the article points out this isn't an uncommon occurrence. The only thing uncommon about it was the numbers of birds "downing" at once. BTW, birds smack into buildings in broad daylight and die by the hundreds of millions every year. They can't always tell reflections from reality, be they glass windows or wet parking lots.
http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/collisions/glass.html

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. From high up, with right light conditions
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 08:17 PM
Dec 2011

it looks like water.

Not from a jet mind you, but a Cessna would give you that view.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. Yes, but that is the issue
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 08:24 PM
Dec 2011

tarmac can reflect in a way that looks like water.

I just told you HOW it happens... it's like the sparrow NOT seeing the clean window that kills it.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
9. Once a few birds smack down on the asphalt
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 08:21 PM
Dec 2011

and are sitting there motionless, they look like they're sitting in the water to the other flocks that are still in the air. It's like the decoy effect.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
6. Watch out for falling...birds.
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 08:20 PM
Dec 2011

I assume that these flocks follow the leader? I suppose that includes making descents onto what they thought was water?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
13. Mirage?
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 08:29 PM
Dec 2011

When DH and I traveled through Utah we saw lots of mirages. Maybe that's why the birds mistook the parking lot for a body of water.

Tyrs WolfDaemon

(2,289 posts)
14. How do we know the birds weren't trying to attack Walmart for stealing their eggs
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 09:18 PM
Dec 2011

You know, like in that game everyone seems to play

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Thousands of birds make c...