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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMichael Reagan (son of Ronald): "...it’s time for Republicans to start blaming George W."
Wow. NOW Republicans want to copycat us and start Bush-blaming? So says Michael Reagan:
Now I think its time for Republicans to start blaming George W. for the next four years.
For a week weve been pinning last weeks debacle on everything from Mitt Romneys moderation to low Republican turnout.
But the most important Republican who didnt turn out to support Romney this fall was George W. Bush.
You can make an honest argument that G.W. was as much to blame as anyone else for our being unable to defeat an incompetent incumbent of historic proportions.
OH REALLY? The GWB whose approvals rating began deflating so fast in his second term he never showed up on the campaign trail for any Republicans since 2006?
As Cenk would say, "it gets better"...
The trouble is talk radio and Fox only reach about 20 million people during a week and most of them are already in the conservative Republican choir.
Last I checked, 121 million Americans voted on Election Day. That left us Republicans with 101 million people who still needed to hear our message about whos really to blame for the broken economy of 2008 to 2012.
While the evil radio overlords are dismantling progressive talk radio (first KPOJ in Portland the Friday after Election Day then AM 1090 in Seattle come the new year) I guess we have hope now that a prominent right winger is now admitting that conservative talk radio/Fox Boobs don't work with most Americans?
Michael Reagan finishes his sob story:
We should have had G.W. standing up and saying, This is bull. Im tired of this. This is what I did or did not do with the economy as president. The real culprits are Dodd & Frank and four years of Obamas failed policies.
Some comments about this article on the Dark Side (F.R.) forum:
"I dont blame GW one bit, he doesnt owe anyone anything, most of all the GOP that didnt have his back when he needed it the most."
(Another Freeper simply commented: "Family of Secrets". Wow, they read Russ Baker too?)
"If President George Bush had said anything it would have been spun and turned against Romney to strengthen Boama." (Freeper's spelling not mine)
"Romney, and the GOP-e, campaigned as moderates and that turned-off a large number of the conservative/TEA Party base." (Oh come on you and I know that is BS)
"Almost certainly not GW's choice. He was so successfully demonized by the D's that it was probably decided by the Republican establishment the his involvement would be a negative."
"Michael Reagan is off base on this one...Romney lost because Romney disengaged and because Romney spent his attack money poorly and because Romney used the media poorly."
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)and Bush the Lesser could do NO wrong. Now he wants to pretend he wasn't just another cheerleader for Bush/Cheney and act like he had nothing to do with supporting the disaster that is Bush?? He speaketh with forked tongue . . .
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)Not a blood relative.
alp227
(32,053 posts)Ronald Reagan raised Michael, and Michael is still a proud conservative who even wrote a book "The New Reagan Revolution", so I will keep my subject title.
Raine
(30,540 posts)marriage around. Jane Wyman Ronnie's first wife raised him. In her book Patty said her and Ron Jr. didn't even know about him till he was a teen-ager and came to stay with them for awhile. I think Michael tries hard to out Reagan Reagan since he was so excluded. Maureen, Reagan's daughter from his 1st marriage said she would have to literally push her way passed Nancy to see her father. Ironically in the end Maureen was Nancy's rock to lean on as Ronnie got deeper and deeper into Alzheimers. Unfortunately for Nancy Maureen was not there at the end to help, she died before Ronnie from skin cancer.
alp227
(32,053 posts)Ronald was far from absent from Michael's life.
brokechris
(192 posts)the kids lived in Sacramento (they didn't use the regular governor's mansion). I have a cousin (removed a bit) who attended the same fancy private school as one of the Reagan kids (I think Ronnie) and they even hung out together a few times. This cousin met Reagan and thought he was a very personable and nice person. He found Nancy to be an uncaring bitch. For what it is worth.
At least Ronnie went to a fancy schmantzy school--but not boarding.
brokechris
(192 posts)the previous marriage away--and let her OWN kids live with them. Uncaring cold bitch. But Reagan must have been an enabler to let her treat his flesh and blood that way.
alp227
(32,053 posts)And Michael graduated high school 4 years before Ronald became governor.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Tutonic
(2,522 posts)n/t
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)I think it was handled just fine in this thread. No alert was required.
Ahem. Adopted son of Ronald Reagan.
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Panasonic
(2,921 posts)I know a few.
Just pointing out that MR is not RR's blood
brokechris
(192 posts)unless we are wondering if he has a genetic disposition to Alzheimers.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)Blaming Bush for everything" ...
the "liberally-biased media" will allow Republicans to claim that "blaming Bush" was originated by them!
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Volaris
(10,274 posts)they can begin down the Long Road to national redemption as a viable political party.
But first they must embrace BLAME.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)What replaces it will almost certainly be worse.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Volaris
(10,274 posts)At least the GOP can maybe re-learn to act like a National Party of "loyal opposition", and get some things done, even IF those things happen more slowly than some of us less fearful and cautious personality types would like.
Here's food for thought: How much FUN would it be right now to be an elected GOP Establishment type, and have the balls to start cracking heads in front of TV cameras? Just to have the rank and spine to go find Sen. Rubio the next time he's on a fox camera, grab him by the scruff of the neck, and tell him "SCIENCE, and don't EVER do that again.", and then just walk away to leave him to explain his humilation to the viewing masses.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Suck it Republicans! You own Bush, McCain, Palin and Mitt, who aspired to be worse than Bush.
Cha
(297,665 posts)Newsflash for shithead.. bush is a demon..so's your romney candidate. Next?
David Zephyr
(22,785 posts)There is no love lost between the Reagans and the Bushes.
My library is filled with books and clippings on the Bush family since the 1930's. Vice President George Herbert Walker Bush and his cohorts wrapped Ronald Reagan's presidency in Iran-Contra. So much so, that Oliver North commented, when Ronald Reagan died and his body was in route to Washington, DC. to lie in state, that he would leave town so as not to upset the former First Lady, Nancy Reagan, with his presence there.
When George Bush ran for President, he and his wife Barbara were in Los Angeles for a fund-raiser. Throughout that period, Ronald and Nancy had carefully dodged being photographed with the couple. The evening of the LA fundraiser, George and Barbara and the Secret Service drove to the Reagan home in a caravan...essentially to force a photo-op with Ronald and Nancy. The Reagans would not open their gated entryway to the Bushes. After a very, very long wait (filmed by local LA News), Ronald and Nancy (with the craft of actors) finally came down to the gated entrance where the Bushes and their entourage and the local television news cameras were recording with so much lighting that it looked like daylight.
And what did Ronald and Nancy do? They showed up wearing their PAJAMAS and night robes like they'd been disturbed by it all, but nonetheless, they smiled and gave George and Barbara Bush their photo-op. George and Barbara in formal attire and the Reagans in pajamas. A photo so ridiculous that it could never be used by Bush's campaign.
There's so much "there" there that I could write for hours on this subject. But to see even rightwing Michael Reagan now finally point the finger at that monstrous Bush family is gratifying to me on many levels.
The Bush family should be blamed, not just by Democrats, but by Republicans as well. They have done more damage to this nation than any single family in our American history.
So, I am enjoying this. Very much.
johnq45
(33 posts)to once again blame Bush! The right blamed Clinton the entire time Bush was in office!
AndrewP
(1,839 posts)He needs his group of apologists in the media to help him, and now that they have cut him off he is useless.
Can you imagine him speaking off of the cuff and wowing people like Clinton does with his knowledge of the issues? Of course you can't, because he isn't capable.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)Gotta love this line...
So I guess according to Mikey...there's not enough hate radio and Bullshit Mountain out there? And it's cause George Herbert Hoover Dubya boooosh spent the day before the elections making big coin in the Caymans rather than campaigning for Willard? And Mittens tried to avoid dubya at ever turn...his name was NEVER invoked during the campaign. He wasn't invited to the convention or even for a photo op. And this was whose fault??
While over 100 million Americans aren't stupid enough to buy into the "Conservative Entertainment Complex" it doesn't mean they didn't hear the rushpublican "message" last year and thoroughly rejected it.
Fortunately we have the REAL Reagan on our side:
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)butterfly77
(17,609 posts)and will continue to do so,they just don't get it but they will whether they know it or not.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)a Hollywood scientific miracle
slampoet
(5,032 posts)Those calls motivated a lot of Democratic voters to come out to the polls.