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babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:42 AM Nov 2012

NYT: The Benghazi Circus

Thank you, Mr. Rosenthal

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/the-benghazi-circus/


November 16, 2012, 12:09 pm
The Benghazi Circus
By ANDREW ROSENTHAL


There are still unanswered questions about the Benghazi mission killings–remaining fine details about what happened that day, what the intelligence community knew (or didn’t know) before the attack, whether better security around American diplomats could have prevented the tragedy. It’s not surprising that, directly after the incident, there was some confusion as to what, exactly, had taken place. Just as it’s not surprising that questions remain two months later. At least it’s not surprising to serious people with a background in military and intelligence matters.

Which, apparently, does not include Republican members of Congress. I wrote yesterday that Senators John McCain and Rand Paul, who’ve been ranting to the press about Benghazi and declaring their determination to get to the bottom of things, failed to attend a classified hearing on Wednesday dedicated to demystifying the attack.

On Thursday, the Republican members of the House Foreign Affairs Committee did manage to show up for a public hearing on Benghazi, but they turned it into a political circus. Their main, no, their sole purpose was to attack President Obama and Susan Rice, the American envoy to the United Nations. They were far more interested in going over, for the thousandth time, what public statements were made by which public officials on what day than in actually addressing substantive issues.

Among the worst offenders, and that was a tough competition, was Rep. Dana Rohrabacher of California: “What is clear is that this administration, including the president himself, has intentionally misinformed, read that lied, to the American people in the aftermath of this tragedy. Now, President Obama has the gall to float the name as possible secretary of state the name of the person who is the actual vehicle used to misinform the American people during this crisis.”

I can see how Mr. Rohrabacher, who was a big supporter of President Bush when he “intentionally misinformed” the world about Iraq, using an actual secretary of state as his “actual vehicle,” might come up with that scenario. But in the case of Benghazi, it’s pure fiction and it’s impossible to imagine he doesn’t know that.

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Something obviously went wrong in Benghazi. An Ambassador died. It’s necessary and appropriate to discuss what happened so as to avoid similar missteps in the future. But missteps don’t always add up to a scandal; and confusion after the fact doesn’t necessarily constitute a cover up. The more time Republicans spend going down the conspiracy path, the less time gets devoted to learning from our mistakes and rectifying them.

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NYT: The Benghazi Circus (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2012 OP
Did I hear a ProSense Nov 2012 #1
Rohrabacher is such a hack. SunSeeker Nov 2012 #6
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #2
It is time for McCain to leave the Senate. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #3
Yes indeed......n/t Jade Fox Nov 2012 #8
McCain never sereved anywhere or at any time "with honor", pure horse shit. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #12
I'm trying to be kind. Maybe he will listen if he understands that JDPriestly Nov 2012 #14
That's not my opinion and I emailed my opinion to his congressional office "contact". xtraxritical Nov 2012 #15
Exactly what I thought also madokie Nov 2012 #16
The Corporate Media Is Starting To See The Bubble... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #4
the rightwing echo chamber has gone a little deaf... ginnyinWI Nov 2012 #5
KharmaTrain, your user name is so appropriate for this thread. pacalo Nov 2012 #9
Thank You... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #13
It's true there's much to cheer. Hugin Nov 2012 #10
The real outrage ronatchig Nov 2012 #7
Exacty! Hugin Nov 2012 #11

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
1. Did I hear a
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:34 AM
Nov 2012
I can see how Mr. Rohrabacher, who was a big supporter of President Bush when he “intentionally misinformed” the world about Iraq, using an actual secretary of state as his “actual vehicle,” might come up with that scenario. But in the case of Benghazi, it’s pure fiction and it’s impossible to imagine he doesn’t know that.

...boom!

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
6. Rohrabacher is such a hack.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:27 AM
Nov 2012

That fake bluster was so obvious. You pulled out the best line there, ProSense.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. I'm trying to be kind. Maybe he will listen if he understands that
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:29 PM
Nov 2012

the push to get him to leave is not motivated by hate.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
4. The Corporate Media Is Starting To See The Bubble...
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:50 AM
Nov 2012

It used to be noise made on Bullshit Mountain rolled downhill and became the talking points everywhere. If Senator Durbin dared to utter that he didn't agree with the dubya regime, he was pummeled...forced to apologize and anyone else who dared to question the talking point du jour of Ailes, rushbo and company were dismissed as cranks and "libruls".

Thanks to the hard work of folks on the innertoobs as well as Rachel, Ed, Keith, Lawrence, Chris, Martin and others via MSNBC, there's a pushback that the great unhinged still haven't figured out. They're still used to manufacturing "news" and expecting that they could amp up a scandal that would distract from the big ass kicking they took in the elections and attempt to "lay down the law" with that "uppity" Obama (how dare him win!! :sarcasm

The real stinger for people like Gramps McCrank is how President Obama has made strong inroads against the decades-long hold on the public perception that rushpublicans are stronger on foreign affairs and defense than Democrats. The poutrages will continue...

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
5. the rightwing echo chamber has gone a little deaf...
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:14 AM
Nov 2012

Karl Rove is no longer pulling strings, being only a FOX consultant now...and everything they do looks so very tired. I'd say the main thing that has changed, no two things that have changed: we are far enough from 9-11 that people are no longer so scared/easily influenced and also Obama has us on the right track and his administration excudes an atmosphere of competence and yes, I will say it--hope.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
9. KharmaTrain, your user name is so appropriate for this thread.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:06 PM
Nov 2012

I hope it's also an omen of things to (finally) come for the Republican party.

This article was so beautifully written, wasn't it!

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
13. Thank You...
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:26 PM
Nov 2012

I feel more optimistic today than I have in many years...energized by how well Progressive values did in the past election...and in the ability of the truth to prevail over hate and fear!

Cheers!!

ronatchig

(575 posts)
7. The real outrage
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:39 AM
Nov 2012

should be be the refusal of the regressionists (GOP) to adequately fund the security of the State Dept.employees.
I believe that fact is what they are trying to gloss over by attacking the President et al for the lack of security. Remember they are always trying to use jujitsu to turn their weakness into a strength.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
11. Exacty!
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

The treasonous actions of the know-nothing obstructionist racists in Congress is the real story here.

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