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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:34 PM

PC intern take a vow (Patreous saga)

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I think you are correct. Seven days in may is not just a movie anymore.

This B rate saga has all the makings of a major scandal. I think the Benghazi faux investigations are an attempt to head off the real investigation. But so far we have what? Eight General Officers and one Colonel?

And then we have people who were at one point in Baghdad, and one General setting a think tank in Kabul, at times countermanding orders in the field.

PC I think you put your finger on it...we may have very well have had an attempted coup...but even if we did, I have my doubts we will find out. We need to realize this is serious business though. How many years did it take for the attempt in '33 to come out? Fairly fast, Smedly Butler went to the NYT. Even with all our electronic tracts, we really are not there here folks...

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Reply PC intern take a vow (Patreous saga) (Original post)
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 OP
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #1
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #2
aletier_v Nov 2012 #7
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #8
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #11
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #22
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #23
malaise Nov 2012 #3
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #4
GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #5
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #6
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #9
Brickbat Nov 2012 #13
pscot Nov 2012 #10
pintobean Nov 2012 #12
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #14
pintobean Nov 2012 #16
MineralMan Nov 2012 #17
pintobean Nov 2012 #18
Brickbat Nov 2012 #20
pscot Nov 2012 #19
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #21
MineralMan Nov 2012 #15
madinmaryland Nov 2012 #24
aikoaiko Nov 2012 #25

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:41 PM

1. There was no Internet in '33.

People back then had no chance to hear about ol' Smedley's (2 Medals of Honor) last act of heroism.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:49 PM

2. Yeah, but the NYT ran the story.

Here, if they can, it will die in a raunchy sex scandal.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:15 PM

7. Hope so. That's the best way to go.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:26 PM

8. An NYT story in those days (as now) had very little effect if the rest of the news outlets

didn't pick it up. Out in corn & cattle country, nobody heard about it if the local rags chose to ignore it. And they did so choose.

It is somewhat different now. In fact, I think the failure of CU $$ to buy the election is largely attributable to the decline of the traditional mass media as major sources of information for the public.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:32 PM

11. At a meta level

Yes, the old media is dying a nasty death by thousand cuts. But that does not mean than the bloom Courrant. (Making it up) a small blog in Corn country will carry this.

Social media matters though.

There will be a hybrid that will emerge in the next few years.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:25 PM

22. The media made many attempts to confine stories, only to see them blow up

in the new media. Madison, Occupy, Wikileaks/Assange/Manning, etc.

The times, they are a'changin'--

and the (NY)Times ain't changin' fast enough.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:32 PM

23. Oh the NYT can take lessons from my local NBC affiliate

The NYT did cover it, these guys did not...did I mention they were two and a half blocks from freedom plaza. To this day OSD is a non entity.

What I think will happen, from what I am seeing, is the rise of online research consortiums, papers, traditional ones are canning research teams. In time investigations will be outsourced by whatever "traditional paper" survives to these teams of freelancers. The days of working for a single paper are pretty much over.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:50 PM

3. Which explains all the poutrage from the same old suspects

Even Tweety is smelling a rat and he is very slow on these matters.

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:51 PM

4. You noticed too

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:11 PM

5. Take a Vow, wordsmith.

" I, Nadinbrezinski, do solemnly swear to read before posting".

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:13 PM

6. Is that supposed to be some kind of a joke?

Or is this personal attack current model for spell flames?

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:28 PM

9. Lighten up, Nadin.

I was gonna snark about it too, but forgot to.

Just edit the "v" into a "b" and all will ve well.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:37 PM

13. Apparently, PC Intern should become a monk. Or nun.

Sorry, PC! I don't know which vow you should take.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:31 PM

10. Maybe you could 'splain that to us

I can't connect the dots the way you seem to.

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Response to pscot (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:35 PM

12. And frame the patterns for the curios.

Author and journalist.

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Response to pscot (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:39 PM

14. It's just too much of a series of coincidences.

Not only Patreaus, or Allen were having issues with paramours in Kabul (the UCMJ night come r not up). But abc was reporting on six, as of last night, high ranking officers in all sorts of hot water, leading to ahem, in one case a general court martial and dismissal. (That wad a colonel)

The women patreus is in with, the Kelly's, him and Allen were involved in a custody fight third party, who was part of the Provisional authority.

Kelly got her job with the South Koreans with help from Patreous.

Anyway, what should be a screaming alarm bell is the number of high ranking officers in hot water, plus the coincidence of the rove meltdown on election night.

Now let me ask you something, if we indeed had an attempted coup, and it came out, what is the damage this would do to our standing in the world? This is purely circumstantial and dang nabbit it could be as simple as generals behaving badly.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:43 PM

16. What's a "wad a colonel"?

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Response to pintobean (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:59 PM

17. That's when you fold a colonel up several times, as small as you can.

Then, you shoot him across the room using a rubber band between thumb and index finger. If you wad a colonel tightly enough, it stings when it hits its target.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:06 PM

18. Ahem, are you sure about that?

It is a sex scandal. I don't know about rubber bands.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:13 PM

20. All I know is that it's clear to me that the UCMJ night come r not up.

No good saying it ain't.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:13 PM

19. It seems more like Jersey Shore

than Seven Days in May. Successful soldiers tend to be opportunists; not the sort to pass up a chance to get laid. Putting women in barracks seems to have opened a new theater of operations.

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Response to pscot (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:24 PM

21. The women involved

Were not in the service.

As I said it could be as simple as generals behaving badly...but

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:41 PM

15. I solemnly swear...

I thought his name was Petraeus. That's my vow. If I'm lyin' I'm dyin', folks.

"PC intern take a vow (Patreous saga)"

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:44 PM

24. I doubt whether it is an attempted coup.

I am thinking it may be a more of a botched effort by the Republican party to set-up the Obama administration. Where do you think that $400million went that Rove raised?

I think they were trying really hard to set-up Obama and his administration. The only ones involved in this are the republicans. Do you think that Banghazi might have been a Republican MIHOP??


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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:56 PM

25. Locking.



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