Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:34 PM Nov 2012

PC intern take a vow (Patreous saga)

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by SYFROYH (a host of the General Discussion forum).

I think you are correct. Seven days in may is not just a movie anymore.

This B rate saga has all the makings of a major scandal. I think the Benghazi faux investigations are an attempt to head off the real investigation. But so far we have what? Eight General Officers and one Colonel?

And then we have people who were at one point in Baghdad, and one General setting a think tank in Kabul, at times countermanding orders in the field.

PC I think you put your finger on it...we may have very well have had an attempted coup...but even if we did, I have my doubts we will find out. We need to realize this is serious business though. How many years did it take for the attempt in '33 to come out? Fairly fast, Smedly Butler went to the NYT. Even with all our electronic tracts, we really are not there here folks...

25 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
PC intern take a vow (Patreous saga) (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 OP
There was no Internet in '33. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #1
Yeah, but the NYT ran the story. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #2
Hope so. That's the best way to go. aletier_v Nov 2012 #7
An NYT story in those days (as now) had very little effect if the rest of the news outlets Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #8
At a meta level nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #11
The media made many attempts to confine stories, only to see them blow up Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #22
Oh the NYT can take lessons from my local NBC affiliate nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #23
Which explains all the poutrage from the same old suspects malaise Nov 2012 #3
You noticed too nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #4
Take a Vow, wordsmith. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #5
Is that supposed to be some kind of a joke? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #6
Lighten up, Nadin. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #9
Apparently, PC Intern should become a monk. Or nun. Brickbat Nov 2012 #13
Maybe you could 'splain that to us pscot Nov 2012 #10
And frame the patterns for the curios. pintobean Nov 2012 #12
It's just too much of a series of coincidences. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #14
What's a "wad a colonel"? pintobean Nov 2012 #16
That's when you fold a colonel up several times, as small as you can. MineralMan Nov 2012 #17
Ahem, are you sure about that? pintobean Nov 2012 #18
All I know is that it's clear to me that the UCMJ night come r not up. Brickbat Nov 2012 #20
It seems more like Jersey Shore pscot Nov 2012 #19
The women involved nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #21
I solemnly swear... MineralMan Nov 2012 #15
I doubt whether it is an attempted coup. madinmaryland Nov 2012 #24
Locking. aikoaiko Nov 2012 #25

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. There was no Internet in '33.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:41 PM
Nov 2012

People back then had no chance to hear about ol' Smedley's (2 Medals of Honor) last act of heroism.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. Yeah, but the NYT ran the story.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:49 PM
Nov 2012

Here, if they can, it will die in a raunchy sex scandal.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
7. Hope so. That's the best way to go.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:15 PM
Nov 2012

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. An NYT story in those days (as now) had very little effect if the rest of the news outlets
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:26 PM
Nov 2012

didn't pick it up. Out in corn & cattle country, nobody heard about it if the local rags chose to ignore it. And they did so choose.

It is somewhat different now. In fact, I think the failure of CU $$ to buy the election is largely attributable to the decline of the traditional mass media as major sources of information for the public.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. At a meta level
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:32 PM
Nov 2012

Yes, the old media is dying a nasty death by thousand cuts. But that does not mean than the bloom Courrant. (Making it up) a small blog in Corn country will carry this.

Social media matters though.

There will be a hybrid that will emerge in the next few years.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
22. The media made many attempts to confine stories, only to see them blow up
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:25 PM
Nov 2012

in the new media. Madison, Occupy, Wikileaks/Assange/Manning, etc.

The times, they are a'changin'--

and the (NY)Times ain't changin' fast enough.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. Oh the NYT can take lessons from my local NBC affiliate
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:32 PM
Nov 2012

The NYT did cover it, these guys did not...did I mention they were two and a half blocks from freedom plaza. To this day OSD is a non entity.

What I think will happen, from what I am seeing, is the rise of online research consortiums, papers, traditional ones are canning research teams. In time investigations will be outsourced by whatever "traditional paper" survives to these teams of freelancers. The days of working for a single paper are pretty much over.

malaise

(269,050 posts)
3. Which explains all the poutrage from the same old suspects
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:50 PM
Nov 2012

Even Tweety is smelling a rat and he is very slow on these matters.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
4. You noticed too
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:51 PM
Nov 2012

GeorgeGist

(25,321 posts)
5. Take a Vow, wordsmith.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:11 PM
Nov 2012

" I, Nadinbrezinski, do solemnly swear to read before posting".

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
6. Is that supposed to be some kind of a joke?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:13 PM
Nov 2012

Or is this personal attack current model for spell flames?

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
9. Lighten up, Nadin.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:28 PM
Nov 2012

I was gonna snark about it too, but forgot to.

Just edit the "v" into a "b" and all will ve well.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
13. Apparently, PC Intern should become a monk. Or nun.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:37 PM
Nov 2012

Sorry, PC! I don't know which vow you should take.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
10. Maybe you could 'splain that to us
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:31 PM
Nov 2012

I can't connect the dots the way you seem to.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
12. And frame the patterns for the curios.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:35 PM
Nov 2012

Author and journalist.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. It's just too much of a series of coincidences.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:39 PM
Nov 2012

Not only Patreaus, or Allen were having issues with paramours in Kabul (the UCMJ night come r not up). But abc was reporting on six, as of last night, high ranking officers in all sorts of hot water, leading to ahem, in one case a general court martial and dismissal. (That wad a colonel)

The women patreus is in with, the Kelly's, him and Allen were involved in a custody fight third party, who was part of the Provisional authority.

Kelly got her job with the South Koreans with help from Patreous.

Anyway, what should be a screaming alarm bell is the number of high ranking officers in hot water, plus the coincidence of the rove meltdown on election night.

Now let me ask you something, if we indeed had an attempted coup, and it came out, what is the damage this would do to our standing in the world? This is purely circumstantial and dang nabbit it could be as simple as generals behaving badly.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
16. What's a "wad a colonel"?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:43 PM
Nov 2012

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
17. That's when you fold a colonel up several times, as small as you can.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:59 PM
Nov 2012

Then, you shoot him across the room using a rubber band between thumb and index finger. If you wad a colonel tightly enough, it stings when it hits its target.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
18. Ahem, are you sure about that?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:06 PM
Nov 2012

It is a sex scandal. I don't know about rubber bands.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
20. All I know is that it's clear to me that the UCMJ night come r not up.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:13 PM
Nov 2012

No good saying it ain't.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
19. It seems more like Jersey Shore
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:13 PM
Nov 2012

than Seven Days in May. Successful soldiers tend to be opportunists; not the sort to pass up a chance to get laid. Putting women in barracks seems to have opened a new theater of operations.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
21. The women involved
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:24 PM
Nov 2012

Were not in the service.

As I said it could be as simple as generals behaving badly...but

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
15. I solemnly swear...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:41 PM
Nov 2012

I thought his name was Petraeus. That's my vow. If I'm lyin' I'm dyin', folks.

"PC intern take a vow (Patreous saga)"

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
24. I doubt whether it is an attempted coup.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:44 PM
Nov 2012

I am thinking it may be a more of a botched effort by the Republican party to set-up the Obama administration. Where do you think that $400million went that Rove raised?

I think they were trying really hard to set-up Obama and his administration. The only ones involved in this are the republicans. Do you think that Banghazi might have been a Republican MIHOP??


aikoaiko

(34,171 posts)
25. Locking.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:56 PM
Nov 2012


GD's Statement of Purpose

Discuss politics, issues, and current events. No posts about Israel/Palestine, religion, guns, showbiz, or sports unless there is really big news. No conspiracy theories. No whining about DU.


This line of inquiry might be better suited in the Creative Speculation group.
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»PC intern take a vow (Pat...