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Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:20 PM

 

Fuck it, have Rice resign, and take full responsibility for Benghazi, defang this

Benghazi thing before it even gets started. That will take the wind out of the sails of the republicans who are trying to make hay already over this.

Take this off the table, and the GOP will be flailing at rainbows, and befuddled that their toy was taken away from them. The republicans are trying to make a mountain out of this, and might as well put it to bed with a surprise pre-emptive strike by having Susan Rice take responsibility and resigning.

What say you?

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Reply Fuck it, have Rice resign, and take full responsibility for Benghazi, defang this (Original post)
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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:22 PM

1. complete drivel

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:41 PM

128. Not just drivel

it's rediculous. The repukes LOST.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:22 PM

2. She did nothing wrong.

Screw the Repubs. They have nothing. She reported the intelligence she was given. They will move on to their next shiny toy. They have learned nothing since the 90's.

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:37 PM

46. +

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:22 PM

3. I say NO.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:22 PM

4. Um, no.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:23 PM

5. Are the DU admins

handing out free drugs?



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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:23 PM

6. And they say Democrats have no spine! ( n/t )

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:23 PM

7. No wonder they call us

bedwetters.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:23 PM

8. No.

Ruining a woman's career and reputation to "take this off the table" is not appropriate. And I doubt if it would take it off the table at all, even if O were to act this dishonorably.

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Response to charlyvi (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:51 PM

64. It will just embolden the Rape-publi-scum - n/t

 

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:24 PM

9. I say they will find something else to harp on.

Susan Rice had pretty much nothing to do with Benghazi. She apparently does her job well. Why sacrafice her for no benefit?

--imm

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Response to immoderate (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:37 PM

45. Absolutely.

They'll then harp on the President for using Susan Rice as a scapegoat. And, so will the people here who reflexively criticize the President for every damn thing he does or says. This has got to be one of the dumbest things I have read here in ages.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #45)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:51 PM

97. And they'll also say all over the air waves, "this proves we were right."

She needs to stay right where she is.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #45)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:03 PM

111. RWingers

are already saying she is the scapegoat. I have read posts that said the WH gave her false information when they sent her on the Sunday talk show circuit.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:24 PM

10. Sounds like some exquisite Coward Juice you've been drinking

Rather the opposite should be done: nominate Rice before Friday, have Reid put it on before Christmas, and display the information in the most public forum available, daring the GOP to deny her the appointment.

What is this cowardly retreat shit you're pushing. It's an embarrassment.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:27 PM

80. The election is over


I thought that some folks would take a holiday break after the election. You know, take a breather or something.

But the agony of sitting on their hands during the election has obviously caused them to pop up like lilacs in the spring.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #80)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:24 PM

122. It is very interesting indeed to see the long knives come out for the President

by some people who have been denied their "I Told You So" moment.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:25 PM

11. Brilliant tactical move

Hey, why not "Obama should resign"?

Admit it, you thought about it before hitting "Post my reply!"

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:25 PM

12. Wasn't this whole thing started by FOX NEWS...??

Seems like Fox News starts the ball rolling and Republicans jump on as it rolls by... or Rush Limbaugh.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:25 PM

13. Hell no she shouldn't resign

 

Why should Susan Rice resign if she didn't do anything wrong. She verbalized whatever intelligence she received at the time. However, like in any investigation, there may be facts that come out later that contradict a previous understanding of events. It doesn't signal a cover up. It just signals that an investigation is a process where facts can and often do change.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:25 PM

14. I say no.

If the President has confidence in her, so do I.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:25 PM

15. Resign for what?

It is pretty clear that she didn't do anything wrong. Her reported statements are consistent with reports of the information the CIA had at the time.

This began as a political attack to hurt Obama's national security credentials in an election.

It is continued as an attack against the executive branch to weaken it in all future negotiations with Republicans over the next four years.

If Obama surrenders Rice, who did nothing wrong, who will be the next sacrificial lamb?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:25 PM

16. No.

I think we all should know the full story before anyone thinks about taking one for the team. If someone eventually needs to fall on their sword, it won't be Rice. Based on the President's tone today, I expect he is ready to kick some ass if they try to go down the path on this.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:25 PM

17. No. Let the Republicans bring it.

We need to stop bowing to the minority in these matters.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:26 PM

18. Pre-emptive strike? .... You are calling for "pre-emptive surrender" .... BWahahahahahahaha!!!!

Obama should pre-emptively resign!!! That'll show the GOP he means business!!!!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:26 PM

19. Goodness, how brave!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:26 PM

20. No. She didn't do anything wrong. This is just silly shit.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:26 PM

21. what pure hogwash.

thank Gawds you don't have any power of decision in this matter.

yikes.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:26 PM

22. first of all, the repubs will never stop. If it's not this, it'll be something else

Second of all, how is it fair to destroy someone's career based on desperate rw accusations?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:26 PM

23. You want to ruin this woman's career by making her the scapegoat?

I don't consider it morally right, for one, and frankly not even politically smart either as it would be too transparent.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:27 PM

25. Bull shit.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:27 PM

26. And who would be sacrificed the next time,

and the next, and the next?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:27 PM

27. I guess you missed the presser

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:27 PM

28. You do not give in on truth telling. Rice stays. McCain, Graham and the FNC need a comeuppance.

Let the hearings commence so that it is put under the microscope like Holder was. He won in the end and was even stronger for it.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:28 PM

29. I say that's a startlingly ignorant OP.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:28 PM

30. the whole thing about Benghazi is a rightwing nutjob circle jerk

and they are doing their echo-chamber thing again



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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:28 PM

31. HELL NO! Let them stay crazy!

 

The more crazy they look to the American people, the better chance we have in 2014 & 2016!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:28 PM

32. How about he just blames you for it and has you deported? n/t

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:29 PM

33. Now why doesn't this POS

from you surprise me?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:29 PM

34. Are you friggin' deranged?

I can assure you that if you step about 10 feet outside the Beltway, nobody but Fox Noise gives two shits about this subject.

Make the UN Ambassador resign and accept responsbility for something over which she had no control? Seriously? If Obama were to suggest that to Rice (and I can assure you that he won't) she would be within her rights to tell the POTUS to go fuck himself.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:31 PM

35. Fuck, no! We get to talk about April Glaspie, Curve-Ball, The Original October Suprises. Heck,

they want to talk about Intelligence, with their resume on that issue, that goes in our favor.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:32 PM

36. Obama did the "buck stops here" thing today, sort of makes that moot.

It's pretty clear the r's wanted Bengazi to throw the election, and saying they want a 'Watergate-like hearing". They are smearing Obama by suggesting a Watergate-like result.

Why? Because threat of impeachment is how they plan to negotiate' their deal on the fiscal cliff.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:32 PM

37. are you that dumb?

 

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:32 PM

38. Yeah, like C. Powell resigned after he lied to the UN?

Wait a minute, even after he got confirmation he was deliberately fed false info, he stayed on.

Amb Rice provided the most up-to-date info available during a fluid, ongoing situation to some interviewers on Sunday talk shows.

His testimony was plotted by Cheney and the Neo-Cons to drive the UN to sanction war; her interviews were to update the public.

Yeah, they are equal in their complicity and impact on the US and world as a whole.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:33 PM

39. How about Obama does that as soon as Dubya comes forward and confesses about 9-11

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:34 PM

40. Give in to the whining swine?

I'd leave the Democratic party if the President allowed that to happen.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:34 PM

41. Responsibility for what? For an attack on our embassy?

Stop the hand-wringing.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:35 PM

42. Susan Rice for SCOTUS

 

this is all more racism on the repubs part

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:36 PM

43. Totally Disagree

Rice's resignation would not solve anything. The Repukes would still behave like a dog with a bone.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:36 PM

44. No reason for her to resign, and...

...it wouldn't stop the Republicans, either way.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:38 PM

47. Did this go the way you thought, then?

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #47)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:39 PM

51. I think it probably did

One of DU's preeminent Obama haters slams the President and gets a bunch of people riled up. That's about the intellectual speed of 95% of this guy's posts. There's no there there.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #47)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:40 PM

52. It was a flitting thought

 

so decided to put it out there. I don't mind being told I'm way off in left field. Just wanted to see what others thought.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #52)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:44 PM

55. "flit" is the operative word.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #52)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:45 PM

57. You're not in left field.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:38 PM

48. What a disappointment your post is, quinnox.

Did someone hack into your account on DU and post that? It's the only explanation I can think of for suggesting that a scapegoat be used to pacify the Republicans.

Or did you forget the smiley?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:38 PM

49. bullshit. FUCK MCCAIN

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:39 PM

50. What did she do that was so darn wrong?

Seriously????

Republicans are the ones that are looking stoopid for bringing up the video over and over.


NO WAY!!!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:42 PM

53. Fuck it, delete your post and take full responsibility for wasting DU bandwidth.



"Fuck it, have Rice resign, and take full responsibility for Benghazi, defang this
Benghazi thing before it even gets started. That will take the wind out of the sails of the republicans who are trying to make hay already over this.

Take this off the table, and the GOP will be flailing at rainbows, and befuddled that their toy was taken away from them. The republicans are trying to make a mountain out of this, and might as well put it to bed with a surprise pre-emptive strike by having Susan Rice take responsibility and resigning.

What say you?"

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Response to Gold Metal Flake (Reply #53)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:44 PM

56. I was thinking about it but, now I won't

 

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Response to quinnox (Reply #56)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:47 PM

60. Oh, you are precious!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:44 PM

54. What a lame ass post

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:46 PM

58. Nonsnse. That would be an admission of guilt.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:46 PM

59. There is no "thing" (unless you're glued to Fox News)

Although Benghazi reigns supreme here, it's frankly not being discussed in the mainstream news at all.

I just checked the front pages and "national" pages of three major American newspapers: The New York Times, The Washington Post, and even the Republican-leaning Chicago Tribune. Not one of them has a headline that focuses on Benghazi.

Now, maybe they will if John McCain and Lindsay Graham scream loud enough. But you know what? We control the Senate by a large margin now, and by extension, all the relevant investigative committees. There will be no right-wing-led "Watergate-type" investigation. This is bluster and and attempt to distract you from the fiscal negotiations, the election wins, etc.

We need to stop playing on the Republican's (and Fox News's) turf. We set the agenda. We talk about what's important. There is no "Benghazi thing."

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:47 PM

61. If you are bored, may I suggest you take up basket weaving?

Just sayin'...

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Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #61)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:50 PM

63. lol

 

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:50 PM

62. Never never give in to bullies or liars. The republicans are making a very serious mistake, and

they will be self-destructing because of it

That is what happens when you are blinded by hate

The President will not be the same person he was in the first term

He is well aware of the hate and disrespect afforded him by the extremist party who call themselves republicans

He made a point of meeting with progressive groups first

A small taste of what is to come was made at the press conference

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:52 PM

65. I strongly disagree. Just because they bark loudly

and in unison doesn't make them right, it just makes them dick head bullies.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:53 PM

66. When you give in to Rape-publi-scum bullies, you merely embolden them. Obama struck EXACTLY the

 

right tone at his presser today.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:54 PM

67. LOL they would like nothing better!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:54 PM

68. I don't understand the attack on Rice beyond partisan reasons

The Sept 15th CIA memo supported her account of events
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/benghazi-attack-becomes-political-ammunition/2012/10/19/e1ad82ae-1a2d-11e2-bd10-5ff056538b7c_story.html
that were known at that time.

I've followed her since 2007 or so when she was involved as an adviser to the Obama campaign. I reviewed her bio back then and I've had no issues with her. She seems quite capable.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:55 PM

69. Um NO

They will just find something else to attack over. there is no THERE on this, so let them run around chasing their CIA leaking tails. They look like morons.

Yes, you're tired of them talking about it, so is everyone else, but when has that ever shut a Republican up? You will never achieve shutting them up, so that is a faulty goal.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:57 PM

70. I say that that's a really dumb idea.

"Give the Republicans exactly what they want! That'll discourage them!"
"Agree with their lies! They'll totally admit being wrong"
"if we shoot ourselves in the foot it'll hobble the other guy!"

You say what?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:58 PM

71. The whole cabinet could resign, Obama/Biden could renounce their win, Boehner could take over

as Weeper-in-Chief...and the right STILL wouldn't let Benghazi go.

It was what they counted on to beat us at the polls...and they will NEVER forgive the country for not falling for it.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:58 PM

72. Deepest one-dimensional mind I'm aware of...

"What say you?"

Deepest one-dimensional mind I'm aware of...

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:00 PM

73. lol

 

that is the first time I think you have made me chuckle. Good one!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:11 PM

74. Don't negotiate with terrorists.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:21 PM

75. If anything needs to be investigated...

it's the CIA itself. But then, Watergate was all about plugging leaks.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:23 PM

76. wrong way to handle Republicans

 

It will make them want to go after people more all the way up to the President because now they will calm the President is hiding something.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:24 PM

77. You're insane

She had nothing to do with the events in Libya. None.

As the President said, all she did was make a presentation based on the information she was provided, information she had every reason to have confidence in at the time she presented it.

Yes, it's unfortunate that this information was, or might have been, wrong. This is what happens with fast-breaking developments. But to request her resignation? That's utter nonsense.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:26 PM

78. Nah, they are hellbent on impeachment hearings and TV time

They will keep looking for reasons, any reasons at all to make the recently disappointed base happy and check writing once again.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:26 PM

79. Unrec...don't give in to the Nazi scum...nt

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:27 PM

81. Why should she resign? She did nothing wrong! Bizarre logic.

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Response to myrna minx (Reply #81)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:29 PM

83. to take one for the team, to fall on her sword, etc.

 

I don't mind being told I'm out in left field.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #83)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:36 PM

89. Take one for the team for what? Who did anything wrong? Why should anyone resign because the

republicans are screaming about some made up conspiracy, concocted on FOX news? The President won in an LANDSLIDE. Neither he, nor Rice owe them anything, *especially* a resignation.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #83)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:14 PM

135. Sorry, you seem confused:

that would be right field...

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:28 PM

82. Did Colin Powell resign after he gave his bogus UN presentation on Iraq?

That was also an incident where a government representative got up and delivered intel that had supposedly been provided by the intelligence agencies. Were McCain and Graham after Powell's skin after the UN debacle?

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Response to stopbush (Reply #82)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:30 PM

84. No, but he sure as shit should have

 

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Response to quinnox (Reply #84)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:58 PM

104. On THAT,

I can agree with you. From things he's said since, I think HE could agree with you on that.

That was a terrible thing, wasn't it?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:31 PM

85. It wouldn't defang anything -- they'd merely switch their focus of attack. It has nothing

to do with Rice -- it's about Obama.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:32 PM

86. People made the same bullshit argument about Holder and the Fast and Furious "scandal".

Give them a sacraficial lamb for their fake, contrived "scandal" and they'll go away.

Bullshit they will.

They'll call it a victory. You'll only encourage them, and they'll just keep going at it and going at it like they did with Clinton, well past the expiration date.

Don't give into these bullies.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:33 PM

87. Hell No. End of Story.

She did nothing wrong--why should she lose her career and her reputation because there was a screw up in intelligence communications somewhere. The administration needed someone to make the rounds to put the current CIA updates out to the public--she did that. She had the same information ALL members of congress had access to, she did not misrepresent a damn thing. McCain and Graham both know this--They're looking for a fight, a reason to turn this into a huge impeachable offense. Same crap they pulled with Clinton. The difference between then and now is that we know what they're capable of and so does the Obama administration. So good luck with that...This reeks of a set up for a "tainted" administration in 2014. I don't see it happening, once the information is made public, I think this will be a screw up on the way information was processed and distributed.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:36 PM

88. sorry, you are all wet on this one

This is a perfect example of what the Dems get wrong; the message. We had this failing already with the ACA. We sat back and let them describe it as a socialist rationing plan to kill granny and they got away with it because the Dems, including the admin, didn't publicly disagree with that assessment and fight back. If i see someone come up to you, call you a thief, slap your face and walk away, and you are just standing there looking at the ground, I'm gonna suspect that there's something to the charge. That's what happened with the ACA, we didn't fight back, and the half-awake masses took that as a guilty plea.

The administration is not in the best position to do it yet, but the rest of the dems should be shouting down the media with the truth of the Benghazi matter, instead we're all just sitting here letting the bogus charges stick. Rice told what SHE was told, period. There was a CIA operation going on. Since when do we come out right after something like that, a criminal act is committed and before anyone is caught we tip them off as to everything we know? It doesn't work that way. They have nothing on the president about Benghazi.

As for giving up Rice and then they will be done? laughable. That would be the starting gun for the rabid right.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:36 PM

90. No

I think that the GOP has to play their game out to the bitter end.

Go all in GOP.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:40 PM

91. Let them (The Shitpublicans) eat cake!

I hear they have a lot left over from the election.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:42 PM

92. Thanks for stopping in, Mr. Hannity,

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Response to RagAss (Reply #92)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:44 PM

93. you cut me to the quick with that one, I DESPISE Hannity

 

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:48 PM

94. Hell no.

If they want to create a scandal, let them do it on their own. Rice's resignation would be a tacit endorsement of their silly claims.

The fact is the Republicans were just seriously pounded in an election, and this whole thing is just more of the political bullshit they've become known-- and electorally punished-- for. PRAY they keep pushing this thing. It'll lose them the House in two years.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:49 PM

95. Here is what Republicans want

IMPEACHMENt. That would make it "easy."

Oh and one more thing... you never ever give in to the bullies... trust me on this one.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:50 PM

96. What a cowardly idea.

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Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Reply #96)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:55 PM

102. well, aren't you just a peach

 

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Response to quinnox (Reply #102)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:29 PM

124. Think of me as

Dorothy trying to wake the Lion that has fallen asleep in the poppy field and had
a momentary lapse of judgement.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:53 PM

98. I have a better idea. Let her stay and you resign. Or me.

It makes as much sense.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #98)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:55 PM

100. I hear ya, bud

 

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:53 PM

99. If McCain and Graham resigned, that would end the whole thing too. Let's push for that instead.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:55 PM

101. Are you mad?

That will just encourage those asshats to go after another innocent person. For good god's sake, let's not throw red meat to them; that's EXACTLY what they want! Your statement is INSANE.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:56 PM

103. That's a bunch of week-old buffalo dung. Next. nt.

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Response to OldDem2012 (Reply #103)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:58 PM

105. you get points for colorful expressions

 

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:58 PM

106. About time Condi take the blame for something

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Response to chelsea0011 (Reply #106)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:59 PM

107. touche

 

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:00 PM

108. idiot suggestion

obama doesn't possess the cowardly streak to allow him to that nor would americans respect him for doing such a thing. Bring it on is obama one and only route. Screw the nutcases like mccain

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:02 PM

109. I believe your ship has come in, quinnox....

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #109)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:04 PM

112. after reading most of the responses, I feel like I'm being exiled to a deserted island somewhere

 

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Response to quinnox (Reply #112)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:05 PM

114. I believe the failboat has twice daily service there

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:02 PM

110. Sure, throw a longtime friend

and supporter under the bus. Prove to the rethugs that you are a spineless coward with no sense of loyalty. Sounds like a plan to me.

sarcasm

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:04 PM

113. Absolutely not. And it wouldn't stop them anyway.

If Rice were to resign (for no f'in reason), republicans would just take it as a sign that there's something more there, and they'll keep pushing to see who else they can take down.

You don't defeat bullies by giving into them. You defeat them by standing up to them and exposing them for what they are.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:09 PM

115. The Derp is Strong with this one



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Response to stevenleser (Reply #115)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:30 PM

125. That is a not nice.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:11 PM

116. She's a spokesperson who stepped in from another division. What would blaming her accomplish?

Nothing will stop the loons until they're sent packing in abject humiliation.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:13 PM

117. Rice did nothing wrong!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:16 PM

119. Great plan.

Handing them a scalp when they were fishing for shit always worked out well for us before, I can't imagine how it could go wrong this time.

Damn that. There's no hay to be made. Yeah, the Fox crowd will believe the president did terrible evil things....but what else is new?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:18 PM

120. I say you're full of shit. The president isn't a coward and Rice didn't nothing wrong.

Trashing this ridiculous thread!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:22 PM

121. Did you forget the sarcasm thingy?????

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:27 PM

123. NO, absolutely NOT ... Hell NO!!! nt

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:31 PM

126. There is no "Benghazi thing"

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:39 PM

127. She's UN ambassador and had nothing to do with this. They just don't want her at state. If anybody

should have to resign over this it should be Clinton because the state department is her zone of influence and they asked her for additional security. Rice's hands are clean on this. But you know something fuck that this was just an attack and nobody involved wanted it to happen so fuck the republicans for trying to make this into an issue.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:50 PM

129. Nonsense. She is not even slightly responsible. She merely gave a report based on the intelligence

she was handed by the CIA. She didn't make up the information. She was just the messenger. She herself had nothing to do with anything involved with what went down in Benghazi.

To ask her to resign and to make her the scapegoat when she is blameless would be the most repulsive sort of executive ass-covering--the sort one expects of Republican bosses, not of Obama!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:54 PM

130. No. Nothing will "defang" them. They will find another shiny object immediately

Christ on a trailer hitch, have we learned nothing from the past 20 years?

The GOP is relentless in its desire to destroy the Dems. They have made it an unalterable goal of their party: Destroy and Obstruct every Democratic nominee, every Democratic program, every Democratic bill. Every single goddam time that the Democrats cave in and toss someone or something to the GOP wolves, the GOP rips it to shreds and then starts looking around for the next thing before they've even stopped licking their chops.



Hekate

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:57 PM

131. I Think the White House Should

hold a closed-door session with the appropriate congressional committees and tell them all the gory intgelligence details that cannot be released to the public.

It should close by saying that if the Republican members would like to broadcast these details to the public, they are welcome to do so, but it may cause further deaths of Americans. That would put the responsibility at the feet of the people who are making such a ridiculous stink out of this.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:05 PM

132. And I thought your earilier OP...

was stupid..who knew you had more in you...

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:06 PM

133. NO!

Totally unwarranted, completely useless since the thugs will just chase someone else AND continues the all-too-familiar policy of running at the first sign of trouble that Democrats have perfected lo these many years. Enough!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:12 PM

134. Fuck no. Drive through an ambush, don't retreat.

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