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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:51 PM

Before everyone jumps on the bandwagon to let the confederate states secede . . .

Please realize there ARE some sane and rational people living in said states. Over 60% of those who responded to a recent poll on NOLA.com thought the idea of Louisiana seceding 'silly'; 30% said secession was a good idea:


The White House set up the section, We the People, to allow citizens to have their voices heard. If a petition gets 25,000 signatures within a month, the "White House staff will review it, ensure it's sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response."

The website Gawker notes: "As unilateral secession was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it remains to be seen if this movement is more than a toothless temper tantrum thrown by armchair revolutionaries."

On Monday morning, the Louisiana petition had more than 13,000 signatures. If the petition gathers 25,000 signatures by December 7, the White House pledges it will be place the petition in a queue for response from the Obama administration."



Here are the vote tallies on the NOLA.com website as of today:

Yes, we would be better off - 30.64%

No, it didn't go so well last time - 5.78%

This is just silly - 63.58%


http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/11/louisiana_other_states_petitio.html#incart_m-rpt-2

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Reply Before everyone jumps on the bandwagon to let the confederate states secede . . . (Original post)
fleur-de-lisa Nov 2012 OP
Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #1
JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #5
loli phabay Nov 2012 #10
liberalmuse Nov 2012 #2
gollygee Nov 2012 #3
fredamae Nov 2012 #4
and-justice-for-all Nov 2012 #6
Ilsa Nov 2012 #7
CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #8
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #9
txdemsftw Nov 2012 #11

Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:56 PM

1. There's the rub ...

This is an urban versus rural conflict. Each state would first have to have its own civil war.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:00 PM

5. Point well made

Read a really funny book by Chuck Thompson this summer - a Northern Manifesto as to why we (the North) should let 'em go. Okay - so it was 93% humor but woven around was the very real issues that are not just SOUTHERN issues - but AMERICAN issues.


And I think Atlanta would put up one hell of a fight.
Ditto the NC Triangle area.
Birmingham will go full court press.

Etc. Etc. - That's urban vs rural warfare that we are talking about before a 'secession' could even begin.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:38 PM

10. not to mention the urban rural war that would happen in the blue states

 

You would end up with cities seperated from each other. No natural resources and no where to grow food

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:56 PM

2. I think the people filing the secession docs...

should be the ones to GTFO. They don't speak for everyone in that state.

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:57 PM

3. Yep.

Agree 100%. They don't like the union, they can leave. There are people in that state who do want to be part of the US.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:59 PM

4. Oregon too?

I looked up the sigs and almost all are from out of state----I can assure you the majority of residents ... We are a Blue State for crying out loud!
WTF is wrong with these people?

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:04 PM

6. They can ot be allowed to secede...

because that would give the the losers exactly what they want, to be able to keep the middle class and poor down. They would cut off all federal funds, people would lose their SSI, Medicare/Medicad and other vital programs that a lot of people i.e the disabled and elderly need.

What those secessionist people are trying to do is selfish and childish, they fucking lost and they can not deal with it in an adult fashion. They are really pathetic bastards.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:13 PM

7. I'm not just afraid my red state will secede.

I'm afraid all the really good Dems will try to throw us out!

Really, alot of us are great citizens, stuck amongst assholes.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:15 PM

8. It's not as though it's actually going to happen.

This is just some freaked-out reactionary wingnuts acting out.

If they actually knew what personal creature comforts they stood to lose in the process, even they'd back off. All bluster, no real desire (or strength of character) to TRULY go it on their own.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:36 PM

9. On the other hand, those rational people could gain control.

 

I know it sounds silly, but if a state were to secede, that would be the most stimulating event for our side that's possible. They'll all come crawling back. In the mean time, let's let Puerto Rico in. I know a lot of DUers are in the rebel states, but that's a positive for all of us. United we stand, divided we fall. We have to have people inside those states to keep the union together. It isn't like we haven't been through this before.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:38 PM

11. I said this about the 25,000

people in TX who signed the petition...they are the ones who probably NEED Democrats the most.

The stupid is strong amongst them.

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