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mcar

(42,688 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 01:21 PM Jan 2023

Shame on the Media for Turning Biden's Old Classified Docs into a Snipe Hunt

Shame on the Media for Turning Biden's Old Classified Docs into a Snipe Hunt
False equivalence and what-aboutism—has no one learned anything from the last decade?

By Charles P. Pierce

We're all going to have to come to grips with the fact that CNN is going to go all-in on this obvious snipe hunt over the classified documents that lawyers for the president gave back to the National Archives as soon as they found them. According to NBC, there was a second batch of documents. Two! two! two snipes in one!

This so energized the various gun-bearers and bloodhounds at CNN that one of them, Stephen Collison, went storming off into the bogs on his own. This shebeen doesn't often call out individual reporters by name; the job is hard enough without an ever-expanding peanut gallery. And Collison's egregious effort Thursday morning was only the latest indication that CNN, under its new management, thinks the what-aboutism of the Biden documents is going to be its train to glory. But this lede right here? This is everything that's been wrong about elite political journalism ever since everyone went down to Arkansas in the early 1990s to troll for fish stories.

President Joe Biden’s embarrassment over classified documents found in his former offices is spiraling into a major political crisis that threatens to undermine the case for Donald Trump to be charged for his own hoarding of secret material. The revelation that another set of secret documents dating from Biden’s time as vice president were found at a second location immediately fueled Republican claims that the ex-president is being treated unfairly as he is investigated by a special counsel over classified information found at Mar-a-Lago. While Trump’s retention of hundreds of documents and attempts to thwart their transfer to the National Archives as required by law appears more serious at this stage, Biden’s deepening troubles are offering a huge opening to the new pro-Trump House majority. The GOP is already moving to unleash an investigative machine designed to prove their long-held belief that Democrats have weaponized the federal government and intelligence agencies against conservatives – and to create the appearance of equivalence between Trump’s behavior as president and the actions of Biden and his circle.


Do you see how this works? The only way that the current situation spirals "into a major political crisis" and/or offers "a huge opening to the new pro-Trump House majority" is if the elite political media plays along. The GOP is "already moving to unleash an investigative machine" to prove that Dr. Anthony Fauci conspired with Chinese Communists to create COVID-19. This is no more a valid use of the Congress' investigative power than what's coming on the Biden documents. The only validation the two investigations can receive is if they are treated as serious news stories and not as the transparent ratfcking they obviously are. Moreover, almost every news operation that has joined in the snipe hunt also makes a point to remind us that the Biden situation has absolutely nothing in common with the Pool Shed Papers.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a42474162/biden-classified-documents-media-snipe/
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Shame on the Media for Turning Biden's Old Classified Docs into a Snipe Hunt (Original Post) mcar Jan 2023 OP
It's done now lapfog_1 Jan 2023 #1
Yep. underpants Jan 2023 #2
I've seen recently that jurors are much fairer and actually abide by their oath... W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #6
all it takes is 1 juror lapfog_1 Jan 2023 #8
Not the media. Garland. iemanja Jan 2023 #19
a lot of it comes from dem ignore- ance of 1500 radio stations that are now screaming one thing in certainot Jan 2023 #36
These TV journalists are so lazy. "Much is unknown, but blah, blah, blah" Walleye Jan 2023 #3
And their ridiculous attempts at "analysis" mcar Jan 2023 #10
Charles P. Pierce is spinning pure bullshit. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #4
Who is it that is denying reality and delving into conspiracy theories now, hmm? W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #7
Sad response, man. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jan 2023 #15
Good response Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #24
I'll "spread" what I please, thanks all the same mcar Jan 2023 #11
Spreading baseless (and absolutely false) stories is bad for Democrats. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #12
Not baseless, not absolutely false - and please stop calling me a liar mcar Jan 2023 #13
CNN's coverage has focused very heavily on the distinctions between Biden's team and Trump. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #14
CNN is right up there with Fox Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #25
That's just ridiculous. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #26
You're writing is silly - googly eyes? Haha Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #29
I wish I could say the same. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #31
Haha...so funny Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #39
Seems your CNN TV Tube MOMFUDSKI Jan 2023 #37
I doubt it. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #38
Since Watergate the loons have screeched the "news" media is liberal. Judi Lynn Jan 2023 #5
Absolutely, Judi. It's impossible to understand politics over the past 50 yrs w/o understanding that peppertree Jan 2023 #18
Lindsey is the soul of discretion, isn't he? He's always been so circumspect. Judi Lynn Jan 2023 #35
Wonder if the Reagan estate has any Classified Docs laying around? KS Toronado Jan 2023 #16
Or Poppy Bush's! peppertree Jan 2023 #20
I'll bet W had a ton of classified data Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #27
Though unlike his dad, he couldn't make sense of most of it peppertree Jan 2023 #28
Hehe. Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #30
Yeah. The jokes practically wrote themselves with Dubya - and Cheeto! peppertree Jan 2023 #32
M$Greedia is about making money for of their owners malaise Jan 2023 #17
With the news that inflation is easing BaronChocula Jan 2023 #21
+1, uponit7771 Jan 2023 #22
Good point mcar Jan 2023 #23
And, So Predictable. Cha Jan 2023 #33
CNN wants Trump back in the worst way. Jon King Jan 2023 #34
I think you have a good point there Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #41
This will be BENGHAZI on steroids. 24/7 spanone Jan 2023 #40

lapfog_1

(29,313 posts)
1. It's done now
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 01:30 PM
Jan 2023

it is already a "major political scandal" (even if not really a scandal).

The media has made it so.

bothsidererism is running amok already.

If TFG is charged now (as he should be) with theft of classified material, he will skate with a polluted jury pool.

It's really sad because this was such a slam dunk criminal case against Trump... plenty of evidence of intent and concealment of the crime, etc.

W_HAMILTON

(7,927 posts)
6. I've seen recently that jurors are much fairer and actually abide by their oath...
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 02:43 PM
Jan 2023

...than lay people pre-criticizing them (like you are doing) give them credit for.

Rest assured that the very capable government attorneys that will bring forth a potential case against Trump will certainly make them aware of the differences and will easily be able to knock down any deflection from Trump's attorneys.

lapfog_1

(29,313 posts)
8. all it takes is 1 juror
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 02:50 PM
Jan 2023

in a criminal trial. And this story gives them something to hang their hat on "that both sides do it"

iemanja

(53,178 posts)
19. Not the media. Garland.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:10 PM
Jan 2023

This old blame the media stuff is like Tourette's. Garland is the one who appointed the Special Prosecutor.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
36. a lot of it comes from dem ignore- ance of 1500 radio stations that are now screaming one thing in
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 04:25 PM
Jan 2023

unison, endorsed by hundreds of university and pro sports teams (including these 87), pressuring the DOJ and polluting jury pools

same reason gop had a chance at winning there house back after the treason and criminality of TFG they enabled and protected- a few months of unchallenged screaming to 50 mil/week is all it took to make that coup attempt look insignificant relative to the price of eggs

Walleye

(31,478 posts)
3. These TV journalists are so lazy. "Much is unknown, but blah, blah, blah"
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 01:52 PM
Jan 2023

Do your job and find out what is unknown.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
4. Charles P. Pierce is spinning pure bullshit.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 02:08 PM
Jan 2023

CNN has not been spinning "false equivalences," but rather has been covering the story responsibly and have been very careful to make the "apples and oranges" distinctions between the Biden team's handling on these discovered documents and the actions of Donald J Trump.

The misinformation campaigns and conspiracy mentality hurt our party.

Stop spreading mendacity. One koo-koo party is more than enough.

W_HAMILTON

(7,927 posts)
7. Who is it that is denying reality and delving into conspiracy theories now, hmm?
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 02:45 PM
Jan 2023

We've seen the clips and videos and articles. As have you, since you've been in each of the threads trying to dismiss them away.

It's about time you realize that no matter how strongly you defend this weird obsession with CNN, people are going to believe their own eyes and ears.

Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #7)

Farmer-Rick

(10,395 posts)
24. Good response
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:45 PM
Jan 2023

Did he really use CNN and "not been spinning "false equivalences," but covering the story responsibly" in the same sentence???

CNN - not as obviously Republicon propaganda as Fox but they carry all the same stories with the same slant.

mcar

(42,688 posts)
13. Not baseless, not absolutely false - and please stop calling me a liar
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 02:59 PM
Jan 2023

Read the clip of the article from CNN. That is pure false equivalency nonsense.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
14. CNN's coverage has focused very heavily on the distinctions between Biden's team and Trump.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:01 PM
Jan 2023

The "false equivalency nonsense" line is pure malarky.

This is supposed to be a "reality based" community.

Farmer-Rick

(10,395 posts)
25. CNN is right up there with Fox
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:47 PM
Jan 2023

All the same stories all the same slant.

They use to be better but in the last year they have gone down the Fox hole.

Judi Lynn

(161,010 posts)
5. Since Watergate the loons have screeched the "news" media is liberal.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 02:39 PM
Jan 2023

Almost immediately "journalists" became desperate to prove by gawd it is not, by going after Democrats with a vengeance.

Who would have imagined the "news" people would have found it worthwhile to pass on to the world that Obama dared to wear a beige suit one summer, without ever also gibbering about the fact the Senate has an annual "Seersucker Day?"



BATON ROUGE, La. (WAFB) - National Seersucker Day is June 13, and Senator Bill Cassidy is inviting citizens to wear their best seersucker attire Thursday.

“It is a bipartisan tradition, celebrating an American tradition that started in New Orleans,” said Dr. Cassidy. “Wearing a seersucker suit makes a summer stroll outside enjoyable no matter how warm.”

https://www.wafb.com/2019/06/12/national-seersucker-day-is-june/





Their seersuckers say a lot!

Compare their record reporting Gary Hart and Bill Clinton and John Edwards to the enormous list of grimy, low-down, even shocking behaviors by so many, many Republicans....

The corporate media's handling of those three men treated them as if they were this country's most notorious criminals since the Earth was formed, yet hardly even paused to scribble a few words over the primitive, sometimes brutal behavior of Republican politicians toward their prey.

Too much idle time on all their hands.

peppertree

(22,085 posts)
18. Absolutely, Judi. It's impossible to understand politics over the past 50 yrs w/o understanding that
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:08 PM
Jan 2023

They know that Wall Street and CEOcracy - though they can deal with either party - have their favorite.

Great photos btw. I noticed that Lindsey Graham studiously avoids participating in National Seersucker Day.

But then - that joke would practically write itself, wouldn't it!


peppertree

(22,085 posts)
28. Though unlike his dad, he couldn't make sense of most of it
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:54 PM
Jan 2023

"Ooh, ooh guys - this one's about the aliens! Or what it just about about Rick Scott? Darn it, I wish I could still call dad..."

peppertree

(22,085 posts)
32. Yeah. The jokes practically wrote themselves with Dubya - and Cheeto!
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 04:04 PM
Jan 2023

Let's face it: Republican presidents (lately, anyway) are just more fun.

malaise

(270,709 posts)
17. M$Greedia is about making money for of their owners
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:07 PM
Jan 2023

and sponsors = nothing more, nothing less - most of the hacks don't give a flying fuck about democracy. Bothsideism brings in the money

BaronChocula

(1,738 posts)
21. With the news that inflation is easing
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:21 PM
Jan 2023

Chris Jansing and Company have to find some other dramatic headline to utter with an ear-piearcing shout at the open of their programs. Not that Bidenfilegate isn't news, but neither is the "Chris Jansing Approach." She seems more interested in drama than facts.

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