HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » So, the Freepers are talk...

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:38 PM

So, the Freepers are talking secession again

Thread here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2956232/posts

I think it is a basic human right to live under a government that governs with the consent of the governed. I think this basic human right transcends whatever the law may say (Scalia says there is no Constitutional right to secede). The Civil War experience we had in this country has forever colored our concept of secession. We automatically think of it as a violent, tragic enterprise. But this is a narrow viewpoint. There was a Civil War because one side wanted to secede and the other side wanted to remain intact.

But in a situation where both (or more) sides are willing to secede, you can have a peaceful split. Czechoslovakia becoming the Czech Republic and Slovakia, for example.

The historical trend has been for small countries to merge into big countries, but there is no a priori reason to assume that this is always inevitable or always desirable.

2014 won't save us. 2016 won't save us. Getting a new person in the White House isn't the answer, that only buys time, it doesn't fix the problem.

It's time for people, not just right-wingers but it should start with them, to start floating the idea of a peaceful break-up of the United States of America. Getting bogged down into how it will work or whatever isn't the first step, the first step is to overcome the taboo of talking about it. Right now, even among many right-wingers, it is tinfoil hat talk to mention the s-word. That needs to change. This would be a much happier continent in a post-secession America.

72 replies, 3785 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 72 replies Author Time Post
Reply So, the Freepers are talking secession again (Original post)
LuckyTheDog Nov 2012 OP
SubgeniusHasSlack Nov 2012 #1
Ya Basta Nov 2012 #29
ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #2
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #7
codjh9 Nov 2012 #9
IDoMath Nov 2012 #10
ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #59
Iris Nov 2012 #50
WhoIsNumberNone Nov 2012 #69
Iris Nov 2012 #70
IDoMath Nov 2012 #3
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #4
adigal Nov 2012 #15
Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #25
Ya Basta Nov 2012 #38
hifiguy Nov 2012 #53
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #65
adigal Nov 2012 #72
NavyDavy Nov 2012 #20
rDigital Nov 2012 #40
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #64
Arkana Nov 2012 #5
Fawke Em Nov 2012 #71
Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #6
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #16
Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #67
libdem4life Nov 2012 #22
bunnies Nov 2012 #8
powergirl Nov 2012 #11
Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #32
hifiguy Nov 2012 #55
Ahpook Nov 2012 #41
The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #12
Emillereid Nov 2012 #13
NavyDavy Nov 2012 #24
sibelian Nov 2012 #14
lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #17
libodem Nov 2012 #18
Liberal Veteran Nov 2012 #51
AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #19
rightsideout Nov 2012 #37
aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2012 #21
HappyMe Nov 2012 #23
Jim Warren Nov 2012 #26
Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #27
oppressedproletarian Nov 2012 #28
Marr Nov 2012 #30
Atman Nov 2012 #31
Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #33
Liberal Veteran Nov 2012 #49
TrogL Nov 2012 #34
oppressedproletarian Nov 2012 #36
TrogL Nov 2012 #66
Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #54
hifiguy Nov 2012 #58
Samjm Nov 2012 #60
TBF Nov 2012 #35
LanternWaste Nov 2012 #39
Initech Nov 2012 #42
Johnny2X2X Nov 2012 #43
Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #44
aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2012 #45
BeHereNow Nov 2012 #56
kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #46
ck4829 Nov 2012 #47
Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #48
maxrandb Nov 2012 #52
DiverDave Nov 2012 #57
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #61
intaglio Nov 2012 #62
SWTORFanatic Nov 2012 #63
VOX Nov 2012 #68

Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:40 PM

1. freepers are way too cowardly

 

to do what it would take to secede.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SubgeniusHasSlack (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:56 PM

29. And too fat and lazy.

 

They'll get deferments or cry about pimples on their ass like the chickenhawks they are.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:40 PM

2. "I think it is a basic human right to live under

a government that governs with the consent of the governed."

Sooooo....it's apparent this person incapable of basic logic. President Obama was elected with the consent of the governed. What about this do they not understand?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:44 PM

7. Well, THEY didn't consent to be governed by Obama.

And that's what counts. They don't want us freeloaders raiding their mom's refrigerator while they're busy in the basement typing out their screeds on their Kool-aid-stained keyboard with the three stuck keys.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:45 PM

9. That's exactly what I was going to say. He just got re-elected by a majority, pinhead! What part

of that is this nutcase missing? It's like a friend of mine told me he went into a bar a couple of years ago and a guy was saying re: Obama 'They shoulda never let him in there', and my friend said 'he was DULY ELECTED by a MAJORITY - no one 'LET' him in there'.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:45 PM

10. Ummm, they didn't consent?

 

If you are going to lump people together by geographic boundaries then;

Texas didn't consent. OK didn't consent. AZ didn't consent..... etc, etc, etc

Not that I'm really suggesting secession but I've been among the 'unconsenting governed' for years. It's nice to feel like I'm actually consenting for once.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to IDoMath (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:27 PM

59. While you have a point, we're talking about a national election, not a state one. As a nation,

we the governed of the United States elected Barack Obama. Their side simply does not accept the result.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:11 PM

50. And what did they think 50% of the country thought when Bush won?

I mean, do they realize those elections were just as close as this one, and the first one might have actually be stolen from the people? They are so uninformed, they shouldn't even be ALLOWED to vote.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Iris (Reply #50)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:57 PM

69. Might?

The second one was stolen too.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Reply #69)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:23 PM

70. Yeah - I know.

I thought about the morning of 9-11 before the planes hit when I heard a report on NPR that their had been a study of the ballots in FL and it was clear Gore had one. Of course, that report wasn't repeated a 2nd time once the chaos started.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:43 PM

3. This always makes me laugh

 

because of Texans who promote this idea. Yeah, sure, first you have to close 18 military bases, NASA and exile KBR, halliburton, Lockheed-Martin etc. Generally, get off the federal teat. AND you have to do that without crashing the economy.

Good luck with that.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:43 PM

4. I would fight to the death to preserve the Union

 

I would have no problems with killing rebels to insure the Union is preserved.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to RomneyLies (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:47 PM

15. Not me...I would tell them, "Good riddance!"

Don't let the door hit them on the way out!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to adigal (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:52 PM

25. No kidding. They all pay fewer taxes and get more benefits than everyone. They are a siphon.

They would turn into 3rd world places without the blue states. It would be a great lesson for them. They would be leaving those states in droves after a few years.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Michigan Alum (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:05 PM

38. "They would be leaving those states in droves after a few years."

 

That is exactly correct. And I would love the irony of calling them "illegal immigrants" and for us to build a wall to keep them the hell out.

Wouldn't that be a sight.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to adigal (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:19 PM

53. Let 'em go if they can get a majority for it.

Build a wall around their state. And then they lose every last dime that comes from the US government. They'd be on their knees begging to come back within five years.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to adigal (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:15 PM

65. Um, 41% of Texans voted for Obama. Are you saying 'Good riddance' to them also? - n/t

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #65)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:20 AM

72. Sane texans could relocate

From what my Texan friend tells me, it is getting unlivable in the summers with the heat, so many may leave soon anywa.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to RomneyLies (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:50 PM

20. Im with u......i think that all the traitors in the Civil War should have been hung along the main

roads, like the ancient Romans did with crucification
....

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to RomneyLies (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:06 PM

40. Obviously this is hyperbole..... Right? Do no harm. nt

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to rDigital (Reply #40)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:11 PM

64. Secession would mean war

 

and I would gladly fight in that war regardless.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:43 PM

5. Then they can go.

All DUers from seceding states are welcome in Massachusetts. We have Elizabeth Warren, legal weed, gay marriage...we got it all.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Arkana (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:31 PM

71. And cold, cold winters.

Some of us like the moderate winters in the South.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:43 PM

6. Let's make a deal with Mexico.

Bring ALL the Mexican people here who want to be Americans under rule of law and deport ALL the secessionists to Mexico where they will FINALLY be happy.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Tigress DEM (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:47 PM

16. What tells you there is no rule of law in Mexico?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:18 PM

67. Oh, SURE there is but seccessionists don't as a rule "speaka" so they'll just ignore as they do now.

And the people who are always whining about immigration won't be here to see all the NEW LEGALS moving into their neighborhoods, so they won't be bothered by it.

If they wind up in Mexican prisons for their outrageous behavior or on the wrong side of a drug cartel they will either be executed or find a way to get the prisons to follow the 5 star system and Mexico has some history of pleasing their type so it could go either way.

Happy New Legals in America working and sending money home to help their families and still clueless seccessionists still thinking they own their little part of the world.

You're right. Mexico wouldn't go for it.


ALTHOUGH.... you must admit that there has been a lot of gang style warfare and basically assassinations of elected officials going on in Mexico over the last many years. So depending on the money you have and your connections, the "rule of law" MIGHT be open to some flexibility.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/09/174-government-officals-killed-in-six.html
<snip>
MEXICO CITY, Sept. 11, 2011 - During the administration of President Felipe Calderon, 174 public officials and politicians have been murdered by organized crime.

According to a count made by this newspaper, the victims range from candidates, mayors, elected mayors, state and local legislators, retired generals who act as secretaries of local public safety, state secretaries of public security and police chiefs, among others.

The largest proportion of those homicides refers to police officers, with 83 cases.

http://www.businessinsider.com/mexican-police-cia-shooting-2012-10

A misunderstanding or attempted HIT on the CIA?

http://projects.latimes.com/mexico-drug-war/#/its-a-war

A timeline - 50,000 dead in the government's crackdown on the cartels.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/08/world/la-fg-mexico-memorial-20120808
<snip>
MEXICO CITY — It must have seemed like a good idea at the time: a memorial to the thousands of victims of the drug violence that has convulsed Mexico for most of the last decade.

Washington, after all, has its Vietnam War memorial. New York has its monument at the site of the World Trade Center.

But even as the winning design was being announced, Mexico's tribute was stricken by the conflicting visions and bitter disputes that have driven wedges into Mexican society.

Innocent civilians, police officers on duty and soldiers fighting drug cartels are among the more than 50,000 dead in the government's crackdown on the cartels. But there are also huge numbers of bad guys: traffickers, their thuggish gunmen, their corrupt politician accomplices. Does the memorial speak for all of them? And if not, how do you winnow the memorialized?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Tigress DEM (Reply #6)


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:45 PM

8. buh-bye freepwads! nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:46 PM

11. Meh - this Texan ain't goin' with them

Maybe they can all "secede" to Alcatraz or something

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to powergirl (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:59 PM

32. Austin can turn into it's own little Mecca within the state.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Michigan Alum (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:20 PM

55. Austin as West Berlin.

Austinites deserve free and unrestricted access to the rest of the US.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to powergirl (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:06 PM

41. They would be like a crappy roommate

Stink up their part and slowly creep back over when its intolerable

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:46 PM

12. Buh-bye.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

Too bad whatever states you take won't get to keep any military bases, NASA, national parks or other real estate belonging to the US government. You won't get any more federal money. No Social Security, Medicare, highway funds, education grants, weather services (find your own damn hurricanes), airport construction grants, or FAA air traffic controllers. You don't get to keep the Centers for Disease Control if you take Georgia; do your own disease research. You won't have an army, a navy or an air force, either. That's all ours, including the ships and airplanes.

So, welcome to the Third World, Freepers. Give it a couple of years and you'll be begging for foreign aid from us because you'll have started to look like Bangladesh.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:46 PM

13. Let us have an amicable divorce! So many of the right wing crazies are simply

too stupid to live with anymore. We would be a much better country without the racist, tea bagger states.

There must be a fair way to split the real estate.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Emillereid (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:51 PM

24. nope they cant have any of it if they want to leave then they leave empty handed

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:46 PM

14. Bwa and ha. How are the pukes going to be president of the US if it isn't the US any more?


You think the GOP gives a shit, freepazoids? Tee hee. No.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:48 PM

17. I remember something their side used to invoke often during the corrupt and evil BushCo Regime ...




America, love it or leave it.


I'd be happy to give some of them a ride to the airport. Just let me know.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:48 PM

18. Good

They can go to Gitmo after we free the POW's.
Start a city of independent individuals who never help each other or form a government.
They can move there and have an Anarchy of their own. All insurrectionists will be shot on site, since they won't need any organized law enforcement.

They should all starve or be shot by each other in two weeks. End of story.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to libodem (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:12 PM

51. I'm fairly certain that Cuba would consider that an act of war.

And is not permitted by treaties we have signed on the use of biological weapons.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:50 PM

19. Awww somebody's wittle party

Needs a nap..

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:04 PM

37. LOL

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:51 PM

21. We get to keep Yale, Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech, the

Smithsonian, and Carnegie Hall. They get to keep Liberty University and Branson, Missouri.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:51 PM

23. Okay.

They can go any time now. I don't care where.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:52 PM

26. Secession is

an adolescent pipe dream for these people because it would manifest as their worst nightmare .
The red states have the lowest quality of life by many measures yet are the largest recipients of federal largess that originates from the blue states.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:54 PM

27. This dipshit thinks he's going to get away from non white people.

Nice try, asshole.

In North America, you, sir, are a new minority. Deal with it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:54 PM

28. Here is a humorous take on this very topic

I didn't write this but it sounds good to me!

(with apologies to enlightened Red-Staters, no offense intended by me)

"The Enlightened States of America”

Dear Red States:
We’re ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we’ve decided we’re leaving: “Legitimate rape.” is almost reason enough!

We in Oregon intend to form our own country and we’re taking the other Blue States with us.

In case you aren’t aware that includes New York, Hawaii, California, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the rest of the Northeast.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States of America (E.S.A).

To sum up briefly:
You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches.
We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd Akin.
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand.
We get Intel and Microsoft.
You get WorldCom.
We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss.
We get 85 percent of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs.
You get Alabama.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the Red States pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition’s we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.

Please be aware that the E.S.A. will be pro choice and anti war and we’re going to want all our citizens back from Afghanistan at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they’re apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose and they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their children’s caskets coming home.

We wish you success in Afghanistan, and possibly Iran as well, but we’re not willing to spend our resources in these sorts of pursuits.

With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of:
80% of the country’s fresh water,
more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce,
92% of the nation’s fresh fruit,
95% of America’s quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners)
90% of all cheese,
90 percent of the high tech industry,
most of the US low sulfur coal,
all living redwoods, sequoias and condors,
all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech, Long Beach State, CAL, San Jose State and MIT.

With the Red States you will have to cope with:
88% of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs,
92% of all US mosquitoes,
nearly 100% of the tornadoes,
90% of the hurricanes,
99% of all Southern Baptists,
virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws,
44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties.

We’re taking the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico.

Sincerely,
Stan Singer
Citizen of "The Enlightened States of America”

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:57 PM

30. Here they go again. Big talk from the basement.

Those people don't have the stones to do anything, and there aren't enough stupid people to follow them if they did.

'Blah, blah, blah. I didn't get my way. Wah, wah, wah.'

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:59 PM

31. Secede from mom's basement?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:00 PM

33. Give them an island or two in the Aleutians.

They are hard working and freedom loving so they'll have no problem making a go of it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:10 PM

49. I was thinking Krakatoa would be a good place for Freeplandia. -nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:01 PM

34. You guys wanna join us?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TrogL (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:03 PM

36. Awesome, TrogL! nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to oppressedproletarian (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:07 PM

66. Not my map. This is really old.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TrogL (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:20 PM

54. Add Florida to that red part of the map.

It's really a blue state. We can run out all the unruly hicks. Besides the United States of Canada needs some warm sandy beaches.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TrogL (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:24 PM

58. Nevada, Iowa and Colorado, too.

The USC is growing!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TrogL (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:29 PM

60. You missed a few of us

NV, NM, CO. Your map needs to be adjusted.

Just think, you'll get Vegas and the ski slopes of the Rockies.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:03 PM

35. In Texas we have 3.2 million democrats as of last night -

while 4.5 supported Romney. Maybe we should just split the state.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:05 PM

39. Secession is quite silly... to the point of absurdity

Secession is quite silly... to the point of absurdity (regardless of which side either proposes it, or condones it). Once it happens for the reasons stated there (and sadly, here too) , people will once again find enough differences between them that it happens all over again. And after that, the same thing... until America is reduced to 311 million little Napoleons, emperors of their own little, 1-acre empires, and, while looking quite adorable in the blue uniforms, become by definition, ineffectual, ineffective and counter-productive to the collective good.

However, I imagine that discussions of it does present us one absolute positive-- it allows us to separate useless and dogmatic political hacks from everyone else.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:06 PM

42. Hey let 'em try their no government system of government. In a month they'll come crawling back.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:07 PM

43. Awesome

We'll give you guys Guam. See ya later.

People of Guam, we'll have plenty of room for you all.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:08 PM

44. In the new country of Freeperland, Cheeto factories are a top priority.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:09 PM

45. Don't forget Brawndo - it's got "electrolytes"

Limbaugh will become a major film star in the the country of Freepidiocracy.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81248452/

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #45)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:22 PM

56. LOL! n/t

bhn

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:09 PM

46. For people who rant endlessly about their love of the Constitution, they sure

do manage to hate its actual meaning and the results of following it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:10 PM

47. And my response to the freepers...

Byeeeeeeeeeee.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:10 PM

48. Oh yeah?

Them and whose army?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:14 PM

52. Do it ass-wipes

but this time, Reconstruction might be handled a little bit differently.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:22 PM

57. No you MAY NOT break up the USA, you can ,however,leave.

so get the fuck out.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:30 PM

61. It's really silly. We aren't in a territorial society anymore - it's demographic.

 

What the fuck are they going to break away from? Their next-door neighbors are probably Democrats. I've got two overt racists within a Frisbee throw of my house. My next door neighbor (good friend) put up a rMoney sign (for reasons I can't fathom). It's not the Mason-Dixon line if you know what I mean. We're integrated to a point where territory is irrelevant. The Freepers don't know what the hell they're even implying, much less what they're talking about.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:58 PM

62. Shouldn't they get some documentation?

A Declaration of Relief from Butt Hurt
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all White guys are created able to type in their mom's basement, that they are endowed by Ayn Rand with a certainty of no rights for illegal aliens, Furrinners don't deserve life Life, only white guys who live below ground level can have Liberty and Happiness is finding an uncrushed Cheeto on the floor.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:02 PM

63. I want them to leave

Scott Walker can be their President too

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:35 PM

68. The first thing Freeplandia would do would be to ask for a fat handout from Real America...

Because they couldn't even afford to mint their own currency. Social Security? Nah. Medicare? Nope. Ted Nugent could be their Prez, Beck the Vice Prez, and Trump would be Treasurer. What kind of government would a place that hates government...have?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread