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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:05 PM Nov 2012

Rachel NEVER asks tough questions to Steve Schmidt. She let him off the hook....

Easily on the Poll numbers and Romney chance of winning. Not one tough follow up question!

MSNBC hiring him and Michael Steel is a joke. I don't trust anything they say!


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Rachel NEVER asks tough questions to Steve Schmidt. She let him off the hook.... (Original Post) Logical Nov 2012 OP
it's because of this dynamic that Debate 1 turned into a game changer grasswire Nov 2012 #1
Rachel is like smart friends I know who refuse to take sides and don't live by loyalty - this can be flamingdem Nov 2012 #27
That pissed me off. moondust Nov 2012 #30
Schmidt is still proud of Dubya and Dawson Leery Nov 2012 #2
First, both are not what is considered the most extreme elements of their party. Second, they still_one Nov 2012 #3
I quite enjoy listening to Schmidt DMacTX Nov 2012 #4
+1 gateley Nov 2012 #6
+2 roguevalley Nov 2012 #42
He's a helluva lot better than Morning Joe... redStateBlueHeart Nov 2012 #9
Agreed Egnever Nov 2012 #11
Agreed Faith9326 Nov 2012 #14
I agree. kstewart33 Nov 2012 #17
He is as full of shit as any other GOP talking head. Logical Nov 2012 #20
I think he's pretty damn objective -- I appreciate his input. I think he gives gateley Nov 2012 #5
Sometimes, maybe. At this point in the process, however, he is not. Laurian Nov 2012 #13
+1 more bs that is ultimately destroying our country, the lying machine flamingdem Nov 2012 #28
BS, if you heard him spinning the polls he sounds no different than Fox News. Logical Nov 2012 #21
Oh, and WE don't spin the polls? gateley Nov 2012 #25
No, shit have you read ANY analysis? Nate Silver? Princeton? Please provide a detailed.... Logical Nov 2012 #26
Both sides present the most positive spin to their followers -- surely that isn't news to any but gateley Nov 2012 #34
You don't have to spin obamasnumbers, tat is the difference! Logical Nov 2012 #35
Well, you do have a point, but we present the not-so-good numbers with as much positive gateley Nov 2012 #36
I remember DUers attacking Nate in 2010 when he said we would lose.... Logical Nov 2012 #37
people did windmills about obamas first debate roguevalley Nov 2012 #43
Good example. gateley Nov 2012 #47
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #40
Why do we have to listen to the same Schmit? I only want to know about voting flamingdem Nov 2012 #7
So, now we DON'T like Rachel, just like we don't like David Gregory? brooklynite Nov 2012 #8
People somehow have gotten the notion that they shouldn't even hear the truedelphi Nov 2012 #16
LOL, really? I hear the other side plenty. I just want Rachel to ask tough questions to all GOP.... Logical Nov 2012 #22
Did I say that? Jesus, quit being a smart ass. I just said she treats him different. Logical Nov 2012 #19
You didn't -say- it, but your venting falls into the same category of complaint... brooklynite Nov 2012 #23
No it does not. Hell, did I blame Schmidt at all? I blamed Rachel. See the difference? I doubt it. Logical Nov 2012 #24
That's exactly my point... brooklynite Nov 2012 #29
I want ALL reporters to ask ALL guests tough follow-up questions. Not have a different standard.... Logical Nov 2012 #31
Rachel is not a reporter loyalsister Nov 2012 #44
Well, I agree she is definitely not a journalist!! Logical Nov 2012 #46
Rachel was probably advised to play nice... savebigbird Nov 2012 #10
I agree. Even in the face of so many swing state polls showing President Obama forestpath Nov 2012 #12
Because it doesn't matter. Because it is all entertainment. Here's a clue: Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #15
By Thursday msnbc will be a ghost network. russspeakeasy Nov 2012 #18
Please elaborate on that, because I need to understand why that's cause for celebration. We People Nov 2012 #38
It was OK. She knows that he is a partisan mercenary and I thought she made that ladjf Nov 2012 #32
I like rachael.. But sometimes... I was frustrated with her schmultz interview what a goofus Thekaspervote Nov 2012 #33
He has to tow the line or he is out like Christie is now. ErikJ Nov 2012 #39
I think she's just allowing him time to share his mzmolly Nov 2012 #41
I like Steve Schmidt. AtomicKitten Nov 2012 #45

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
1. it's because of this dynamic that Debate 1 turned into a game changer
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:08 PM
Nov 2012

Rachel handed Schmidt the first word following the debate. This, followed by Tweety losing his mind, could have cost the election.

flamingdem

(39,336 posts)
27. Rachel is like smart friends I know who refuse to take sides and don't live by loyalty - this can be
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:44 PM
Nov 2012

great but awful when emotional intensity is needed to weed out bullshit.

She will never get why what she did after the First Debate was destructive. I agree with you that it was and kissing up to PAID LIARS like Steve Schmit is just destructive unless it's framed that way -- but by someone strong like Ed or Al or Joy Reid who don't allow bullshit.

moondust

(20,025 posts)
30. That pissed me off.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:55 PM
Nov 2012

As I remember it, she let Schmidt basically establish that the debate was a big Romney win before anybody else even had a chance to speak. I remember at the time thinking it was odd that she went to him first.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
2. Schmidt is still proud of Dubya and
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:08 PM
Nov 2012

is responsible for unleashing Palin on the world. He is a putz who belongs on Fox.

still_one

(92,502 posts)
3. First, both are not what is considered the most extreme elements of their party. Second, they
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:11 PM
Nov 2012

are usually outnumbered so she gives them some slack

DMacTX

(301 posts)
4. I quite enjoy listening to Schmidt
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:11 PM
Nov 2012

I don't want to live in a political bubble. it is healthy to hear what the other side think, and i value his opinion far more than most neocon blowhards. He is respectful and insightful,.....

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
17. I agree.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:27 PM
Nov 2012

I respect Schmidt. He is a smart strategist and is a Republican who is reasonable, open minded and who thinks. I give him credit for signing on with MSNBC. He does not spout nonsense. He simply has a different political view. I've yet to hear anything from him that is wingnut crazy.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
5. I think he's pretty damn objective -- I appreciate his input. I think he gives
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:14 PM
Nov 2012

us insight into the Reublican mind without a shitload of spin like the majority of others do.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
13. Sometimes, maybe. At this point in the process, however, he is not.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:21 PM
Nov 2012

If he wants to stay in the Republican fold, he cannot say that Romney is going to lose. This begs the question....Why have him on if he is not going to give insightful and true analysis? It's just more spin.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
26. No, shit have you read ANY analysis? Nate Silver? Princeton? Please provide a detailed....
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:41 PM
Nov 2012

counter to Nate or Wang and get back to me!

LOL, a DUer saying "we are like them", classic!

gateley

(62,683 posts)
34. Both sides present the most positive spin to their followers -- surely that isn't news to any but
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 12:24 AM
Nov 2012

the naive.

Ask Silver about his numbers on Sharon Angle. And how were those polls looking for Obama in the NH primaries? Silver is excellent, but not infallible, and polls have been wrong.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
36. Well, you do have a point, but we present the not-so-good numbers with as much positive
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 01:04 AM
Nov 2012

spin as we can muster.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
37. I remember DUers attacking Nate in 2010 when he said we would lose....
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 01:10 AM
Nov 2012

And I disagreed with them. Nate is not biased.

I just want all reporters to do their job no matter who the person they are interviewing is.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
43. people did windmills about obamas first debate
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:40 AM
Nov 2012

Even though he says he did poorly himself. That is spin.

flamingdem

(39,336 posts)
7. Why do we have to listen to the same Schmit? I only want to know about voting
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:15 PM
Nov 2012

and election interference.

My only concern is that this election is not stolen.

brooklynite

(94,950 posts)
8. So, now we DON'T like Rachel, just like we don't like David Gregory?
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:16 PM
Nov 2012

I find this enemies list very hard to keep a handle on...

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
16. People somehow have gotten the notion that they shouldn't even hear the
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:24 PM
Nov 2012

The other side's position on issues. That sounds ridiculous to even consider.

One advantage of knowing the other side's positions and the arguments for those positions, you have a better shot at defending your position and advocating for your position. And many of us have to do that over the holidays or when at work.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
22. LOL, really? I hear the other side plenty. I just want Rachel to ask tough questions to all GOP....
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:35 PM
Nov 2012

talking heads.

brooklynite

(94,950 posts)
23. You didn't -say- it, but your venting falls into the same category of complaint...
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:36 PM
Nov 2012

...that I continually read here about any pundit who seems to be less ideologically pure than the OP is.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
24. No it does not. Hell, did I blame Schmidt at all? I blamed Rachel. See the difference? I doubt it.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:39 PM
Nov 2012

brooklynite

(94,950 posts)
29. That's exactly my point...
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:51 PM
Nov 2012

Schmidt is hired as a Republican and is expected to give a Republican perspective. But whenever someone on 'our" side (Rachel, Ed, etc) or someone who's just there to talk about the political issues (Todd, Gregory, etc.) steps a single foot over the line of liberal political purity, the knives come out for them. It's the sort of behavior I expect from our FRiends, not from people here.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
31. I want ALL reporters to ask ALL guests tough follow-up questions. Not have a different standard....
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 12:03 AM
Nov 2012

depending who the guest is.

You seem to think Rachel should treat Steve Schmidt different than she would Andrea Saul. Why in the hell would you think that?

So then Gregory does not ask a obvious follow up question you are OK with that because he is being polite?

You are making no sense to me at all.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
44. Rachel is not a reporter
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:13 AM
Nov 2012

She hosts a conversational program. The hope is that being polite attracts more viewers than the ugly angry format of Fox news.

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
12. I agree. Even in the face of so many swing state polls showing President Obama
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:20 PM
Nov 2012

leading, he still claims Romney will win - and Rachel had to know that's just what he'd say. So why bother to even bring it up unless she planned to follow up? I just don't get her sometimes. And I do not share the opinion of so many here that Steve Schmidt is somehow objective. Tonight proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is not.

We People

(619 posts)
38. Please elaborate on that, because I need to understand why that's cause for celebration.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:00 AM
Nov 2012

How and why would that happen? What channel should we be watching, then? Just curious.

mzmolly

(51,018 posts)
41. I think she's just allowing him time to share his
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:10 AM
Nov 2012

POV. The entire show, is a rebuttal to his nonsense.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
45. I like Steve Schmidt.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:55 AM
Nov 2012

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He's a Republican and his Republican ideas suck ass, but he's a stand-up guy. He's smart, dignified, and I respect him for telling the truth about the McCain campaign. I also like Andrew Sullivan for the same reasons I like Schmidt. I don't agree with either of them on some fundamental issues, but I appreciate and respect their ability to turn their back on the GOP and its teabagger mentality.

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